--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F3I00002 Date: 03/10/98 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 06:38am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: PARADES ... >-> Yes, the big parade in Ft Pierce was cancelled -- the weather was wild >-> ..... it won't be rescheduled -- but there's always NEXT year .. the ank >-> has already "scheduled" us for next years parade. > Too bad, that would have been a nice one to have under your > belt. Hope for > better weather next year I guess. Hope so ..... well, we have been hired for a parade in Lehigh Acres for the 21st of March..... NATIONAS BANK hired us. --- * Origin: Home of Mr X's 'XTRAORDINARY CARRIAGE SERVICES! (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F3I00003 Date: 03/10/98 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 06:38am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: Hi dere! >-> > You can get what they can "Instantaneous Water Heaters" > too. They don > 't >-> need a > tank to store the water. They raise the water temp about > 20 > 30 >-> degrees > hotter than it comes in. That would probably be enough for > wh > at >-> you want it > for. >-> Ummmmmmmmmmmm -- never heard of them ..... I'll have to look into it - >-> sounds like an ideal thing for our barn! > Should work great. Sounds like it would anyway!! --- * Origin: Jean's Trick Horses (Or is that TRICKY??) (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F3I00004 Date: 03/13/98 From: MIKE MAY Time: 09:15am \/To: JEAN PROPHET (Read 0 times) Subj: PARADES ... -> > Too bad, that would have been a nice one to have under your > belt. ope -> for > better weather next year I guess. -> Hope so ..... well, we have been hired for a parade in Lehigh Acres for -> the -> 21st of March..... NATIONAS BANK hired us. Hmmm, must be it is the banks that have all of the money down there eh? ;-) --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: Home of Malla, the spoiled Norwegian Fjord (1:2613/128) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F3L00000 Date: 03/13/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 10:07pm \/To: BOB KLAHN (Read 0 times) Subj: FORCED RELIGION -=> Quoting Bob Klahn to Andrew Cummins <=- BK> Since when do engineers take a dozen calculus related courses? Maybe BK> 3 or 4. Many engineers take 3 or 4 pure calculus classes, let alone calculus-related classes. BK> How about all math teachers have a degree in math as well as teaching BK> certification? How about education courses are a minor? How about we do away with all state/federal requirements and let each school decide on the qualifications they want in a teacher? Isn't it amazing how you can get good food in restaurants without the gubberment mandating cooking education for the cooks? Although, I think you set a reasonable level for any school to adopt. BK> Nope, no exceptions. I never met a Liberal who didn't believe in exceptions. There's always some social cause a Liberal wants to promote. BK> Pretty soon you'll have so many highly qualified black graduates from BK> teaching colleges the white schools will be filled with black BK> teachers. I don't have a problem with that. BK> You know, I like that idea, I can't think of a better way to break BK> down the walls of segregation and prejudice. One necessity in ending segregation and prejudice is to stop promoting it with the "reverse" practice. >BK>> Finally, require, without exception, that all teaching jobs be filled >BK>> with fully qualified people regardless of cost. > >AC> Yeah, let's have the best teachers even if it causes our >AC> economy to collapse and millions to die due to lack of >AC> medical care and food. BK> Do you mean to say teaching is such a hard profession that fully BK> qualified people won't take the jobs at anything less than ruinously BK> expensive salaries? Good reply. But, I think the quality of teachers is actually a minority portion of the problems with education. BK> Besides, it seems the "conservatives" really don't object to throwing BK> money at problems, it's just a choice of which problems. Real conservatives object to throwing money at problems. BK> They throw BK> money at the military, even when the projects they are throwing money BK> at are things the military doesn't even want. I never understood why so-called conservatives (e.g. Mike Regan, the president's son) want a military far larger than anything needed for the defense of this nation. BK> I just read congress BK> has authorized $250 million to promote abstinence. Guess they can BK> throw money at that. Probably the choice was abstinence or condoms, not abstinence or nothing. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Get All Your Fido Here! telnet://docsplace.dynip.com (1:3603/140) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F3L00001 Date: 03/13/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 10:32pm \/To: BOB KLAHN (Read 0 times) Subj: DEATH OF COMMON SENSE -=> Quoting Bob Klahn to Andrew Cummins <=- BK> Most people who know the facts of the case would disagree with you. A woman spills hot coffee on herself and severely burns herself. It's no secret that coffee is served hot. In fact, it is common (in the home) for drinks such as tea and instant coffee to be served from water brought to a boil. Tell me, how would you decide the day some guy wins a million-dollar judgment for partially castrating himself after riding in a car with a knife between his legs? Sob, the knife was too sharp! BK> That one is true, too bad the prosecution screwed it up so badly, as BK> well as a poor quality judge. Marcia Clark is incompetent (e.g. why didn't she introduce OJ's police statement). But, still OJ was proven guilty FAR beyond a reasonable doubt. BTW, the trial was lost in jury selection. I'd bet money that Marcia Clark made no effort to get white guys or conservative minorities on the jury. AC> the latest nonsense, a wrestler being awarded millions AC> of dollars because the jury didn't like the informant AC> that lead to the wrestler's arrest. BK> This one I hadn't heard about. This hit the papers about a week ago. The sob story is that the guy missed the olympics after his arrested supposedly based on information from an informant that the police supposedly knew was very unreliable. And, the cops are white and the wrestler is a minority (Iranian, whose country was he going to represent?) BK> Then there was the unrefuted testimony of the forensics "expert", BK> Fong wasn't it? Too bad the prosecution wasn't sharp enough to bring BK> in testimony that his testimony was sheer nonsense. Marcia Clark wanted to rely primarily on the police for testimony (then she made almost no effort to defend their credibility against attacks by the Defense, indeed she often seemed to attack their credibility herself such as when she told that jury that she wished Mark Fuhrman was never born). BK> That plus the fact that the prosecutors should have demonstrated that BK> every single cop involved would have had to be in on the frame for it BK> to work, and that Furhman wasn't the first cop on the scene, which BK> made it unlikely he stole the glove and planted it on OJ's property. There were about a dozen people on the scene before Fuhrman. Further, Fuhrman had no way of knowing that OJ wouldn't have an alibi, or that there wouldn't be evidence pointing to another person. And, it was Kato who led Fuhrman to where the glove was found on OJ's property. There is absolutely zero evidence that Fuhrman did anything wrong in the OJ investigation or that he had any desire to frame OJ. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Get All Your Fido Here! telnet://docsplace.dynip.com (1:3603/140) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F3L00002 Date: 03/13/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 10:19pm \/To: KARL SCHNEIDER (Read 0 times) Subj: WOD - EASILY WINNABLE -=> Quoting Karl Schneider to Andrew Cummins <=- KS> Seeing this kind of idiotic drivel from someone who claims to be KS> a 'conservative' makes me goddamn proud to be a 'liberal'. AC> Do you really want to know what idiotic is? It's when KS> I already know. It's initials are AC. My simian friend, when you make personal attacks, especially in regards to the intellectual ability of others, try hard to avoid idiotic sentence construction such as "It's initials..." BTW, you remind me of a poster I once saw of a hawk swooping down on a mouse. The last great act of defiance of the mouse was to raise its middle finger. I rhetorically whip your @$$ and your act of defiance is, well, the one-one liner quoted above which wasn't much different than your reply (the two-liner quoted above) to the previous @$$-kicking. Thanks for the laughter, be sure to keep it coming! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Get All Your Fido Here! telnet://docsplace.dynip.com (1:3603/140) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F3L00003 Date: 03/13/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 10:28pm \/To: SANDRA PEAKE (Read 0 times) Subj: If Women had babies... -=> Quoting Sandra Peake to Andrew Cummins <=- SP> Well, Andrew, I guess you've had your little teehee. Women who make SP> moronic statements like the above don't read history. History shows SP> that women can be just as brutal, domineering, and warlike as any SP> man. Fortunately, most women, like most men, don't have to rule SP> others. Most people want to rule others. The thing that has kept us with the degree of freedom that we have now is that most people cannot agree with each other on how they want to rule us. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Get All Your Fido Here! telnet://docsplace.dynip.com (1:3603/140) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F3L00004 Date: 03/15/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 11:48am \/To: ROGER FINGAS (Read 0 times) Subj: Guns -=> Quoting Roger Fingas to Andrew Cummins <=- AC> Guns should be no more restricted than free speech, at least AC> not unless you want to amend the Constitution. RF> I'm Canadian, so don't ask me to go into the details of that. I once heard that this is a place called Canada to the north of us. Unfortunately, the place is so unremarkable that we almost never hear of it. RF> Imposing regulations doesn't necessarily mean taking away RF> freedom; it generally means conditions to freedom, like how criminals RF> waive that right. It's difficult to regulate without significantly imposing on protected freedoms. RF> But how do you instill responsibility? Unless North America RF> suddenly undergoes a mass religious conversion, it's not about to RF> happen. Regulations -of the right sort, mind you - are useful in the RF> meantime. Instilling responsibility is easy -- we let people sleep in the beds they make. But, nooooo. If a man wants to build a house where the government refuses to give him a building permit (because of the location) and insurance companies refuse to insure (because of the location), that man sues to government to get the permit and when his house is wiped out, us taxpayers buy him a new one. Or, let's go back to crime. Any criminal knows that he most likely will *not* get caught for any given crime and if he does he is most likely to just get a slap on the wrist. Crime pays, thanks to the joke of our legal system. Oh, and there's those lifestyle things, like smoking and eating tons of hamburger. The freedom to smoke tobacco is under heavy assault, the freedom to smoke pot is already gone. But, if we get heart disease from our diet, we can expect the gubberment to pay our medical bills. We are increasingly living in a society that hates both freedom and responsibility. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Get All Your Fido Here! telnet://docsplace.dynip.com (1:3603/140) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F3L00005 Date: 03/15/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 12:17pm \/To: GRANT KARPIK (Read 0 times) Subj: WOD - EASILY WINNABLE -=> Quoting Grant Karpik to Andrew Cummins <=- AC> So, those b*tt-f*cking AIDS-spreaders don't affect you? They AC> certainly don't affect you any less than people who choose to KS> Seeing this kind of idiotic drivel from someone who claims to be KS> a 'conservative' makes me goddamn proud to be a 'liberal'. AC> Do you really want to know what idiotic is? It's when AC> you see a hOmOsexual laying on his HIV deathbed, laying AC> in his own excrement, barely with the strength to lift AC> his head to barf, squirming in agony and leaking at every AC> sore, and you call him "gay." If that is what gay is, AC> I would hate to see miserable. ROTFL! GK> Didn't you claim to be a Christian in one of your posts? No, you haven't seen me say one way or another. Why do you ask? Is it because I mocked a brainless personal attack made by a homophile? Is it because I mocked the once recruitment rhetoric (gay) that has now become synonymous with "homosexual." Is it because I recognize that a group of men who have anal sex with other men have cost our society thousands of lives and billions of dollars as a result of their role in the spread of HIV? Maybe I'm reading you wrong. Maybe you're just pleased by my honesty. It must be refreshing after you continually hear ignorant things like "AIDS doesn't discriminate." Maybe you just wanted someone to point out the obvious, like homos are magnitudes more likely to be child molesters and serial killers -- something which the media is going to to its best to mislead you. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Get All Your Fido Here! telnet://docsplace.dynip.com (1:3603/140) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F3L00006 Date: 03/15/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 12:01pm \/To: PIERRE RENAULT (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: FORCED SOCIALISM -=> Quoting Pierre Renault to Bob Klahn <=- PR> Nope. Here's why you need national health care. It costs twice per PR> capita for health care in the US compared to Canada. Twenty percent PR> of the population has no protection whatsoever. People with insurance PR> work packages are usually restricted as to which doctor they can deal PR> with, those doctors are restricted as to what services they can PR> perform. PR> Meanwhile, we can go to any hospital we wish, use any doctor we want, PR> get second opinions, get whatever care is necessary. All at half the PR> cost. I always get a laugh when people compare the USA to very white countries (consider, most of many classes of violent crime are committed by the black 13% of the population). Anyway, we have essentially a socialized health care system. There is hardly any free-market pressure to control costs and improve health care. A national health care system would simply be less chaotic than the kind of defacto socialized system we have now. But, allow me to correct some of your misconceptions. There is no such thing as 20% of the population with "no protection whatsoever." The middle-class and the rich have insurance and the poor have "welfare" medical care. And, just about anyone can pick any doctor they want, although no one does so with any concern for what the doctor costs. BTW, a national medical care system is illegal in the United States, as if anyone really pays attention to the US Constitution. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Get All Your Fido Here! telnet://docsplace.dynip.com (1:3603/140)