------------------------------------------------------- FidoNet EQUUS Conference<->InterNet EMail List To subscribe to the list, send an EMail message to: listserv@wnybbs.net With the words: SUBSCRIBE EQUUS To Unsubscribe: UNSUBSCRIBE EQUUS To post a message to the list, send E-Mail to: equus@wnybbs.net ------------------------------------------------------- --- * Origin: WNYBBS FidoNet<->InterNet E-Mail Gateway (1:2613/10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F1R00001 Date: 01/20/98 From: EMIL_KUCERA@KUCERA.MB.CA Time: 02:49am \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 0 times) Subj: Zone election Apparently-to: Bob.Kohl@f861.n102.z1.wnybbs.net From: "Emil Kucera" Subject: Zone election On 18 Jan 98 19:11:03 GMT, Bob Kohl wrote: > I'm posting this here since my answer bounced off your mail service. Bummer, don't know why it would do that. Either kucera@kucera.mb.ca (an lias) or kucera@mbnet.mb.ca (the true isp address) _ought to reach me normally. >> ZOne echomail coordinator.. election is still going on in Z1_election. > >> Sysop level voting won't be for another couple of weeks I think. >Remember.. this is the first sysop level, zone wide election for a zone >position, GET OUT THE VOTE! Certainly you have my vote - but how do I make it count? where do I send it? Regards Emil --- --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F1R00002 Date: 01/20/98 From: MARTIN BELCKE Time: 11:33pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Voting Period As the VOTING PERIOD will be starting shortly (1-26-98), I am posting this message as an explanation of various types of ballots, and to clarify any questions the voters may have concerning voting procedures. Any ballot received that cannot be verified will be tagged as questionnable and will not be used in the tallying process. I will be verifying EACH ballot received to ensure that the ballot is valid. --Martin-- ***** Begin Sample Ballots ***** VOTING PERIOD IS January 26, 1998 to February 15, 1998. DO NOT use this as your ballot. In this election, there are 8 candidates running for the position of Zone 1 Echomail Coordinator (Z1EC). As such, a procedure called preferential balloting is being used to prevent the need for run-off elections should no candidate receive a majority vote. Preferential balloting simply means you rank the candidates in order of your preference. If there is a candidate you do not want to vote for, simply do not list that candidate on your ballot. However, understand that if all of those candidates that you did list are eliminated in any round of tallying, so would your ballot be eliminated. (see examples). The basic information that is REQUIRED in order for your ballot to be counted is as follows: ***** REQUIRED INFORMATION ***** 1) Your name as it appears in the Fidonet nodelist and your node number as it appears in the Fidonet nodelist. NOTE: This information will be posted for verification purposes after the close of the voting period in a list of those who voted listed numerically by node number. This list will NOT contain the vote or keyword used. 2) A password/keyword that is to be used to verify your vote. NOTE: The password/keyword will be posted along with your vote for verification after the close of the voting period in a list containing all of the passwords/keywords and vote associated with that password/keyword listed alphabetically by password/keyword. This list will not contain voter name or nodenumber. Try to keep the password under 15 characters. 8 characters is preferred. Passwords used that are considered "vulgar" are not acceptable passwords. What is considered "vulgar" is at my discretion. In the event that you choose to send an unacceptable password, the password will be changed and I will send you the new password either my routed netmail or e-mail. 3) Your Vote - A list of one or more valid candidates names. NOTE: The first valid candidate name listed on the ballot is first choice, followed by the next valid candidate for second choice and so forth. Any extraneous ordering information will be ignored. EXAMPLE: Any numbers listed or other information other than the name of a candidate. Please list candidates names on seperate lines. ***** END OF REQUIRED INFORMATION ***** You may send your vote via any of the following methods: NOTE: Please use VOTE for the subject line. It will make it easier on me. The subject line is NOT a requirement for a valid ballot, simply a courtesy to the vote counter. DIRECT NETMAIL to Martin Belcke 1:232/10 or 1:232/16 DIRECT NETMAIL to Election Coordinator 1:232/10 or 1:232/16 ROUTED NETMAIL to Martin Belcke 1:232/10 or 1:232/16 ROUTED NETMAIL to Election Coordinator 1:232/10 or 1:232/16 E-MAIL to mbelcke@ws02.irvbbs.com NOTE: The other e-mail addresses listed in Fidonews 1449 are not working correctly, so if you send your vote by e-mail, you will need to send it to the above address. SAMPLE BALLOTS: The following are several types of ballots. The examples are NOT the only types of valid ballots. Any ballot that contains the REQUIRED information, as per the election rules, is considered a valid ballot. If the election coordinator is unable to understand your ballot, you will receive a netmail (or e-mail) message asking for clarification. For these examples, we are going to use the following names as candidates: George Washington, Henry Adams, James Kirk, Joan of Arc, Mary Shepherd, Joe Public, Pat Paulsen, Barry Goldwater SAMPLE BALLOT #1 - - This voter is listing only 1 candidate. The name and node number information is contained in the header of the netmail message. ====================================================================== From : Joe Voter (1:222/333) To : Martin Belcke (1:232/10) Subject : VOTE =========================BODY OF MESSAGE============================== PASSWORD - XXXPPPTTTBBB George Washington Joe Voter =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- END SAMPLE #1 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SAMPLE BALLOT #2 - - This voter is listing 3 candidates, listed in order of preference. The order the names are entered will be used as the order of preference. Any numbers that appear next to the names will be ignored. The name and node number information is contained in the header of the netmail message. ====================================================================== From : Joe Voter (1:222/333) To : Election Coordinator (1:232/10) Subject : VOTE ===========================BODY OF MESSAGE============================ PASSWORD - BYTRENMPOIM George Washington Henry Adams James Kirk Joe Voter =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- END SAMPLE #2 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SAMPLE BALLOT #3 - - This voter is listing 8 candidates, listed in order of preference. The order the names are entered will be used as the order of preference. Any numbers that appear next to the names will be ignored. The name and node number information is contained in the header of the netmail message. ====================================================================== From : Joe Voter (1:222/333) To : Election Coordinator (1:232/10) Subject : VOTE ===========================BODY OF MESSAGE============================ PASSWORD - BYTRENMPOIM George Washington 6 Henry Adams 5 Jimmy Durante 4 Joe Public 3 Barry Goldwater 2 Pat Paulsen 1 James Kirk 8 Mary Shepherd 7 Joe Voter =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- END SAMPLE #3 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SAMPLE BALLOT #4 - - This voter sent their vote through the internet. ====================================================================== From : joe@voter.com To : mbelcke@ws02.irvbbs.com Subject : VOTE =========================BODY OF MESSAGE============================== NAME : Joe Voter NODE NUMBER : 1:222/333 PASSWORD : XXXCCCMMMBB The rest of this ballot could look like any of the other ballots shown above. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- END SAMPLE #4 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SAMPLE BALLOT # 5 - - This voter listed the candidates names on the same line. The order listed is the order of preference. Any numbers listed will be ignored. ====================================================================== From : Joe Voter (1:222/333) To : Election Coordinator (1:232/10) Subject : VOTE ===========================BODY OF MESSAGE============================= PASSWORD: XCVBYN George Washington, Henry Adams, Joan of Arc, Barry Goldwater, Pat Paulsen, James Kirk, Mary Shepherd Joe Voter =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- END SAMPLE # 5 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= EXPLANATIONS: In SAMPLE BALLOT #3, the numbers that appear next to the names are ignored and the names as listed are used as the order of preference. In SAMPLE BALLOT #5, the names are used in order listed. It will be a LOT easier on the tallying if each candidate is listed on a seperate line. In preferential balloting, the first valid name that is listed is the "preferred" name in counting the ballot. After the votes are tallied, if no candidate receives the necessary number of votes to win, the candidate that receives the LEAST number of votes is eliminated and the votes are then recounted using the first valid name listed. If a candidate has been eliminated, then that name is no longer a valid name. In SAMPLE #1, if George Washington had been eliminated, then so would that ballot be eliminated, thus reducing the number of ballots by 1. The number of votes needed to win would also be adjusted. In SAMPLE #3, there is an invalid name listed (Jimmy Durante). This name would be considered to be an invalid vote and would not be used. If George Washington and Henry Adams were eliminated in any round of tallying, then the next valid candidate (Joe Public) would be used as the preferred name for SAMPLE #3. In SAMPLE #2, if George Washington, Henry Adams AND James Kirk are all eliminated in any round of tallying, then so would the ballot be eliminated, thus reducing the number of ballots by 1. The number of votes needed to win would also be adjusted. In SAMPLE #4, the voter chose to send the ballot via the internet in an e-mail message addressed to mbelcke@ws02.irvbbs.com. Since the header information does not contain the NAME and NODE NUMBER of the voter as it appears in the Fidonet nodelist, that information --must-- be listed in the BODY of the e-mail message. --Martin Belcke-- Election Coordinator --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F1R00003 Date: 01/20/98 From: DELORES WARDER Time: 09:08pm \/To: KENDA MILLER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Penpals Hi Kenda, Yeah! Another Arab person! As far as temperament, the polish Arabians I was and am acquainted with seem to enjoy working for me or whatever I am doing with them seems to be to their liking. Talko's mother who's primarily polish could really be a beautiful Arab trotting around, especially if she decided it was 'catch me if you can' time. But under saddle, nothing more than willingness. I have never raised any part Arabs, but I did meet someone at our Charles County Fair 3 years ago who had nothing but the greatest to say of them. I do not do much riding anymore (no tack as yet), but I hope to ride at least occasionally in a few months, provided I am able to purchase the necessary tack. But, for now, Talko and his quarterhorse stablemate KC are living life pretty easy and appear to be just enjoying their lives. Good Luck in your riding quests, I'm certain you'll be great! Oh, by the way, liking horses like you do, if you have not read 'Monty Roberts, The Man Who Listens to Horses' it is an excellent book for any animal lover. Have Fun! Delores --- SLMAIL v4.0a (#0304) * Origin: Free Spirit =*= SL/RIP =*= 301-283-0917 =*= V32b/HST (1:109/132) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F1R00004 Date: 01/21/98 From: BOB KOHL Time: 05:40am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: (Bounced) Re: Hi dere > I lost your email address and anyone else's I had (Meg, Jean & Karin for > sure). > Please resend them to my nfhr@frontiernet.net mail address for me. Will do.. I"m up because I caught the damn bug that's going around at the office.. sick sick sick! urrrrp! BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F1R00005 Date: 01/21/98 From: BOB KOHL Time: 05:40am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Voting Period > As the VOTING PERIOD will be starting shortly (1-26-98), I am posting > this message as an explanation of various types of ballots, and to > clarify any questions the voters may have concerning voting procedures. > Any ballot received that cannot be verified will be tagged as > questionnable and will not be used in the tallying process. I will be > verifying EACH ballot received to ensure that the ballot is valid. > --Martin-- > ***** Begin Sample Ballots ***** > VOTING PERIOD IS January 26, 1998 to February 15, 1998. > DO NOT use this as your ballot. > In this election, there are 8 candidates running for the position of > Zone 1 Echomail Coordinator (Z1EC). As such, a procedure called > preferential balloting is being used to prevent the need for run-off > elections should no candidate receive a majority vote. Preferential > balloting simply means you rank the candidates in order of your > preference. If there is a candidate you do not want to vote for, > simply do not list that candidate on your ballot. However, understand > that if all of those candidates that you did list are eliminated in > any round of tallying, so would your ballot be eliminated. (see > examples). > The basic information that is REQUIRED in order for your ballot to be > counted is as follows: > ***** REQUIRED INFORMATION ***** > 1) Your name as it appears in the Fidonet nodelist and your > node number as it appears in the Fidonet nodelist. > NOTE: This information will be posted for verification > purposes after the close of the voting period in > a list of those who voted listed numerically by > node number. This list will NOT contain the vote > or keyword used. > 2) A password/keyword that is to be used to verify your vote. > NOTE: The password/keyword will be posted along with > your vote for verification after the close of > the voting period in a list containing all of > the passwords/keywords and vote associated with > that password/keyword listed alphabetically > by password/keyword. This list will not contain > voter name or nodenumber. > Try to keep the password under 15 characters. > 8 characters is preferred. Passwords used that > are considered "vulgar" are not acceptable passwords. > What is considered "vulgar" is at my discretion. > In the event that you choose to send an unacceptable > password, the password will be changed and I will > send you the new password either my routed netmail > or e-mail. > 3) Your Vote - A list of one or more valid candidates names. > NOTE: The first valid candidate name listed on the > ballot is first choice, followed by the next valid > candidate for second choice and so forth. Any > extraneous ordering information will be ignored. > EXAMPLE: Any numbers listed or other information > other than the name of a candidate. Please list > candidates names on seperate lines. > ***** END OF REQUIRED INFORMATION ***** > You may send your vote via any of the following methods: > NOTE: Please use VOTE for the subject line. It will make it > easier on me. The subject line is NOT a requirement for > a valid ballot, simply a courtesy to the vote counter. > DIRECT NETMAIL to Martin Belcke 1:232/10 or 1:232/16 > DIRECT NETMAIL to Election Coordinator 1:232/10 or 1:232/16 > ROUTED NETMAIL to Martin Belcke 1:232/10 or 1:232/16 > ROUTED NETMAIL to Election Coordinator 1:232/10 or 1:232/16 > E-MAIL to mbelcke@ws02.irvbbs.com > NOTE: The other e-mail addresses listed in Fidonews 1449 > are not working correctly, so if you send your vote > by e-mail, you will need to send it to the above address. > SAMPLE BALLOTS: > The following are several types of ballots. The examples are NOT the > only types of valid ballots. Any ballot that contains the REQUIRED > information, as per the election rules, is considered a valid ballot. > If the election coordinator is unable to understand your ballot, you > will receive a netmail (or e-mail) message asking for clarification. > For these examples, we are going to use the following names as > candidates: George Washington, Henry Adams, James Kirk, Joan of Arc, > Mary Shepherd, Joe Public, Pat Paulsen, Barry Goldwater > SAMPLE BALLOT #1 - - This voter is listing only 1 candidate. The name > and node number information is contained in the header of the netmail > message. > ====================================================================== > From : Joe Voter (1:222/333) > To : Martin Belcke (1:232/10) > Subject : VOTE > =========================BODY OF MESSAGE============================== > PASSWORD - XXXPPPTTTBBB > George Washington > Joe Voter > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- END SAMPLE #1 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > SAMPLE BALLOT #2 - - This voter is listing 3 candidates, listed in > order of preference. The order the names are entered will be used > as the order of preference. Any numbers that appear next to the > names will be ignored. The name and node number information is > contained in the header of the netmail message. > ====================================================================== > From : Joe Voter (1:222/333) > To : Election Coordinator (1:232/10) > Subject : VOTE > ===========================BODY OF MESSAGE============================ > PASSWORD - BYTRENMPOIM > George Washington > Henry Adams > James Kirk > Joe Voter > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- END SAMPLE #2 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > SAMPLE BALLOT #3 - - This voter is listing 8 candidates, listed in order > of preference. The order the names are entered will be used as the > order of preference. Any numbers that appear next to the names will > be ignored. The name and node number information is contained in the > header of the netmail message. > ====================================================================== > From : Joe Voter (1:222/333) > To : Election Coordinator (1:232/10) > Subject : VOTE > ===========================BODY OF MESSAGE============================ > PASSWORD - BYTRENMPOIM > George Washington 6 > Henry Adams 5 > Jimmy Durante 4 > Joe Public 3 > Barry Goldwater 2 > Pat Paulsen 1 > James Kirk 8 > Mary Shepherd 7 > Joe Voter > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- END SAMPLE #3 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > SAMPLE BALLOT #4 - - This voter sent their vote through the internet. > ====================================================================== > From : joe@voter.com > To : mbelcke@ws02.irvbbs.com > Subject : VOTE > =========================BODY OF MESSAGE============================== > NAME : Joe Voter > NODE NUMBER : 1:222/333 > PASSWORD : XXXCCCMMMBB > The rest of this ballot could look like any of the other ballots shown > above. > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- END SAMPLE #4 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > SAMPLE BALLOT # 5 - - This voter listed the candidates names on the same > line. The order listed is the order of preference. Any numbers > listed > will be ignored. > ====================================================================== > From : Joe Voter (1:222/333) > To : Election Coordinator (1:232/10) > Subject : VOTE > ===========================BODY OF MESSAGE============================= > PASSWORD: XCVBYN > George Washington, Henry Adams, Joan of Arc, Barry Goldwater, > Pat Paulsen, James Kirk, Mary Shepherd > Joe Voter > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- END SAMPLE # 5 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > EXPLANATIONS: > In SAMPLE BALLOT #3, the numbers that appear next to the names are > ignored > and the names as listed are used as the order of preference. > In SAMPLE BALLOT #5, the names are used in order listed. It will be a > LOT > easier on the tallying if each candidate is listed on a seperate line. > In preferential balloting, the first valid name that is listed is the > "preferred" name in counting the ballot. After the votes are tallied, > if no candidate receives the necessary number of votes to win, the > candidate that receives the LEAST number of votes is eliminated and > the votes are then recounted using the first valid name listed. If > a candidate has been eliminated, then that name is no longer a valid > name. In SAMPLE #1, if George Washington had been eliminated, > then so would that ballot be eliminated, thus reducing the number of > ballots by 1. The number of votes needed to win would also be adjusted. > In SAMPLE #3, there is an invalid name listed (Jimmy Durante). This > name would be considered to be an invalid vote and would not be used. > If George Washington and Henry Adams were eliminated in any round of > tallying, then the next valid candidate (Joe Public) would be used > as the preferred name for SAMPLE #3. In SAMPLE #2, if George Washington, > Henry Adams AND James Kirk are all eliminated in any round of tallying, > then so would the ballot be eliminated, thus reducing the number of > ballots by 1. The number of votes needed to win would also be adjusted. > In SAMPLE #4, the voter chose to send the ballot via the internet in an > e-mail message addressed to mbelcke@ws02.irvbbs.com. Since the header > information does not contain the NAME and NODE NUMBER of the voter as > it appears in the Fidonet nodelist, that information --must-- be listed > in the BODY of the e-mail message. > --Martin Belcke-- > Election Coordinator > --- DB A3000sl/001347 > * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) > SEEN-BY: 102/861 205/1701 > PATH: 102/861 --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F1R00006 Date: 01/21/98 From: BOB KOHL Time: 05:40am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: assorted back in the loop soon folks. Girls are fine.. Tush is a crack up! :) BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F1S00000 Date: 01/20/98 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 06:25am \/To: "EMIL KUCERA" (Read 0 times) Subj: Horse Smells ... >> Now, the scarey part .... SEDONA smells just like "Baby" > This 'scientifically' explains your love at first sight and > the strong bond you > formed > with Sedona so quickly - at least on your part. Pheromones. Ah HA!! I didn't know that ...... at least that sort of explains it. > They are very > powerful force in all nature, and you are lucky that you > noticed the > difference, > most of the time people don't have as discerning noses. I've always had a very keen sense of smell ..... sometimes that's good ..... sometimes bad (I can smell a dirty dishrag in the kitchen when I'm in the living room ). Even when I smoked I had a good sense of smell -- how that I haven't touched a cigaratte for over 1 1/2 years it's even better! Unfortunately, my hubby can't "hide" his smoking from me as I can smell him a mile away > Horses of course smell > much more keenly, and with luck they like your smell, too. > You are fortunate (and deserve it, too!) > Regards Emil I didn't know that horses had such a keen sense of smell either ...... look how much I've learned to day !! Thanks for the input!!1 --- * Origin: "Baby" - Gone but NOT Forgotten! (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: F1S00001 Date: 01/20/98 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 06:28am \/To: HANNAH SAUMUR (Read 0 times) Subj: Happy, Merry etc... > Guess what jean I had three horses and they > would eat anything and > drink anything from milk to beer. > We had two thourghbreds and a shetland thier names were > luthifer, buttercup, > and cloudy(the shetland). Junk food "ponies", huh?? I have five of them here - they'll eat just about anything edible. > We had a preety good time together me and my horses until > we had to sell them > to keep the house and fix the damages to it since my dad > let the horses into > the house on the kitchen floor and ruined it but it was > really funny seeing > them in the house. Oh noooooooooooo ......... (I'll bet that WAS a funny sight though --- * Origin: Home is Where the HORSES Are!!! (1:371/33)