--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EEB00008 Date: 10/06/97 From: BOB KOHL Time: 04:18am \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Fiddle > MM :>I used to do that too. In fact I wouldn't turn it on until > MM :>after Thanksgiving! > MM :> Guess I am getting old. ;-) > Me too! I find that 'ol 62 deg. just doesn't keep me warm anymore...the > thermostat is starting to edge toward 70 these days! SHhhh! ;) BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EEB00009 Date: 10/06/97 From: BOB KOHL Time: 04:26am \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Palominos > BK :>Wellllllll we loped (sort of) tonight.. got her started.. > BK :>then had to go back and re-enforce the walk/trot cues.. > BK :>since all she wanted to do after is trot or attempt a > BK :>lope... chuckle.. I lost tract of time tonight.. I was on > BK :>her for at least an hour.. I really did push it a little to > BK :>much tonight.. since the weather is starting to cool and > BK :>she's in a roaring heat... but she's so easy to work with I > BK :>just lost tract of time, and we really weren't working all > BK :>of that. > Great! She must be a joy to ride if you lose track of time! Gosh, Bob, > she sounds wonderful! Well typically with kids.. she started crosscueing like crazy and wanted to lope with any cues.. we've fixed that and will look for another way to get her up to the lope. The other problem that cropped up again is something she learned from Straw.. and that's to toss her head up in a transition from a walk to a faster gait.. that's fixed again for the moment. But I've got a 2 year old that's very quiet, level headed and will: walk, trot, leg yield, side pass, back, pivot on the rear, do walk overs, and darn near everything else I've tried with only a mild amount of work. More then that.. you really don't want to get after her to hard.. you adress the mistake and let her work herself into the proper thing you've asked for. She's even started to learn some tricks.. like yawning on command. ;) > BK :>The lope was no more then about 6-10 strides either way... > BK :>got to give her some time to work up to it. That's what I > BK :>had to do with the trot and it was easier for her this way. > BK :>More to come. ;) > Sounds like she had a nice first lope! Nice way to ease her into it. Well I have to rethink how I'm going to go at it next time. I do NOT want to have to deal with the head thing and the crosscueing. I'll think about it and then tinker a bit and see how we do. > BK :>visit shoo'ed Tush.. and Tush darn near got her rear feet > BK :>over the fench just close enough to kick the gal.. I told > BK :>her that this is a young horse and they are unpredictable.. > BK :>and that was a REALLY good way to get kicked. > Why is it that people think that a fence will protect them from a horse > who's acting up (g)? Why is it that people don't use the grey matter between their ears? ;) BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) >>> Well, that's what SEDONA does (her only vice though so I >>> shouldn't complain) ...... hopefully I can break her of it as I do > NOT >>> cinch up very tight (learned that by training young horses)......she >>> STILL snap, snap, snaps though ..... I think it's a habit now and I'm > not >>> too sure how to stop her from doing it. >> Let me think on it Jean.. way to tired at the moment. > If you can think of a reason -- OR what I can do to stop it I would > certainly appreciate it!! This is a real hard one to get them to stop.. and part of working on it is how much the horse likes to please you and or likes to get along with you. The horse is obviously cinchy.. someone pushed her to hard to fast by cinching her up to tight to fast.. and not working up to an acceptable level slowly. This one takes some time and might not really work except to get her to cut down on the actions. If she does this.. slap her on the shoulder with an open hand and yell no and/or quitit/whatever. Dont' slap hard.. but just enough to make noise and get the point across that you are displeased with her actions. This ought to get her to stop turned her head and feinting trying to bite (which she's doing). You can then continue to yell your displeasure when she snaps her teeth/jaws. If she doesn't respond.. slap her shoulder again to make the point. *IF* she stops and behaves.. make sure she knows beyond a shadow of a dount that she's a good girl. take a bunch of time for this to make the point. But more then that.. anytime she snaps her teeth.. let her know it's unaceptable. Tush picked up grinded her teeth a bit from watching another horse.... and she gets corrected EVERY time she does, very consistently. The amount or frequincy that she grinds her teeth is dimishing. Takes time Jean.. may never work 100%.. but it's worth the effort for a very bad habit. BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EEB00010 Date: 10/06/97 From: BOB KOHL Time: 04:33am \/To: JEAN PROPHET (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Link Broken Again?? >>> Well, that's what SEDONA does (her only vice though so I >>> shouldn't complain) ...... hopefully I can break her of it as I do > NOT >>> cinch up very tight (learned that by training young horses)......she >>> STILL snap, snap, snaps though ..... I think it's a habit now and I'm > not >>> too sure how to stop her from doing it. >> Let me think on it Jean.. way to tired at the moment. > If you can think of a reason -- OR what I can do to stop it I would > certainly appreciate it!! This is a real hard one to get them to stop.. and part of working on it is how much the horse likes to please you and or likes to get along with you. The horse is obviously cinchy.. someone pushed her to hard to fast by cinching her up to tight to fast.. and not working up to an acceptable level slowly. This one takes some time and might not really work except to get her to cut down on the actions. If she does this.. slap her on the shoulder with an open hand and yell no and/or quitit/whatever. Dont' slap hard.. but just enough to make noise and get the point across that you are displeased with her actions. This ought to get her to stop turned her head and feinting trying to bite (which she's doing). You can then continue to yell your displeasure when she snaps her teeth/jaws. If she doesn't respond.. slap her shoulder again to make the point. *IF* she stops and behaves.. make sure she knows beyond a shadow of a dount that she's a good girl. take a bunch of time for this to make the point. But more then that.. anytime she snaps her teeth.. let her know it's unaceptable. Tush picked up grinded her teeth a bit from watching another horse.... and she gets corrected EVERY time she does, very consistently. The amount or frequincy that she grinds her teeth is dimishing. Takes time Jean.. may never work 100%.. but it's worth the effort for a very bad habit. BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EEB00011 Date: 10/06/97 From: BOB KOHL Time: 04:35am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: ???? > Well I don't even wear gloves most of the winter even up here. I just > don't > like them. I don't show myself so I don't wear them at all. Niki is the > one > that has to wear them not me. I do somtimes go along as a decoration. I hear that when you guys go boating you're taken along as the anchor. ;) BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EEB00012 Date: 10/06/97 From: BOB KOHL Time: 04:36am \/To: JEAN PROPHET (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Horses > Not too much to tell Oh BS Jean. ;) BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EEB00013 Date: 10/06/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 06:58am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Fiddle MM :>62??? Are you nuts? I keep ours at about 71 - 72. In the MM :>summer with the AC MM :>it is 73-74. Nah. Used to be hot-blooded...now I'm just old and cold (VBG)! AC is about 71 if I have my way! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EEB00014 Date: 10/06/97 From: JANET PACKARD Time: 10:06am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: TN Walking Horses anyone Hi there, I've been gone from BBSing for quite some years, but I have horses, and have been reading your recent messages. My horse is the good version of the generic Plantation Walking horse. He does everything as natural as can be, and does it smoothly. I believe he was a reject from a training barn because he didn't quite make it as one of the big lick horses there. Someone took his papers and gave them to one that did, and he was sold without. But I benefited from this, because even though he WAS a reject, that made him high quality anyways. He's black, which is generic as all get out, and he is smooth as silk. I could pick his double out of any of the VOICE walking horse magazines from many of them shown that are winning in Plantation Pleasure classes. In other words, he isn't just smooth as silk, he moves right and is built right too. I've not had very many horses in my life, but I almost can't believe I've got one that I like so well. He's four years old, and no, I can't get his papers. I learned all that stuff second hand about his papers being changed. (BTW, I'm not an expert on Walking Horses, or any other kind of horse, I just like mine like the dickens!) That's my personal horse, but we have 9 of them, and we all ride them too. My best friend and I take care of the community bunch every day, and come back to the house with what each one has done that was funny or whatnot. We have a chestnut Shetland pony stallion- a pet, a chestnut Walking Horse stallion - a real high stepper, a chestnut Walking Horse gelding - safe/dependable kid stuff, a sorrel Walking Horse mare - almost a pony (very small & flashy), a Palomino/Paint Walking horse 2yr old filly - her daughter, a flea-bit grey Walking Horse Mare - brood mare, a dun weanling - her baby, a Dun/paint/Walking horse stallion/yearling - Really flashy too, he has blue eyes rimmed with black (real evil looking), a bald face, and four white stockings to the knees/hocks. His tail has a victory V of three colors when he holds it up high. We also have a black Walking Horse brood mare - but a good trail horse too she's the mother of the one above. Also dependable. We have a lot of horses, most of them showable, but we like to trail ride better. We go to the local riding club, when the competition is not terribly dangerous (around here they take it too seriously for us to want to risk blowing any of our less experienced horse up over it) We usually go there just to visit, and just take the steadiest horse who doesnt really care if he's sideswiped or cut off. We have a close friend that breeds and trains Palomino Quarter horses and Paints, but she was raised up with Saddlebreds. Her father and her trained and showed them. She breeds and trains her Quarter horses, but she trail rides a lot, and that is only on her Tennesee Walking Horse. She is really stuck on him. She's an itty bitty woman, and this horse is a powerhouse and will go straight up cliffs for her. Personally, I'm not that brave a rider, nor that experienced, but I enjoy hearing her talk about all the stuff she's done on him. I rode English on Quarter Horses, and beginning dressage many years ago, but had to stop riding for a while. When I started up again it was on gaited horses. I rode a couple of dangerous and spoiled horses, got into a few scares, and didn't ride for a year because of the phobia. Oh, mind you... I did do the right thing, and got "right back up in the saddle" after all the episodes, but I never got rid of that nervousness, and it was making riding unenjoyable. And I even tried to force myself through it and ride anyway, but that really didn't do the trick. I ended up doing a lot of chores, grooming, doctoring, feeding, anything on the ground. I came up with a lot of excuses until I just petered out on the riding thing. A year later I decided to try again, and did on the black mare, which is a seasoned trail horse (although rough as a cob, gaited or not). It has seemed to do the trick, and I was trying to work my muscles and mind into just having fun, which I could do on that horse. Nonetheless, my own horse is a little bit more spirited than the phobia can handle right now, and he's also cold-backed. So, I haven't gotten around to riding him regularly in the open. I can handle it in the round pen right now (grin) talk about riding merry go round horses. He's bored, I'm bored... And don't get me wrong, he isn't spoiled, or mean. He has the potential to be even a great beginners horse if he's ridden regularly for a year or two. But he has a way of getting scared that escalates into a kind of hysteria that doesn't go well with my own phobia. I aggravate it, but his tendency is not a horse that comes back down from being scared quickly. In other words, his flight or fight is in good working order. So, we are sending off to the trainer just to have him ridden down for a couple of weeks in situations that I might ride him in. Someone that will give him confidence when he goes out in the world. In the meantime, I hope to get my saddle confidence up on another horse. You don't know how guilty I feel about not riding him, because I just am crazy about this horse. But boy can he run backwards fast when he's scared. (grin) Anyways, I don't mean to sound so depressing. I'm just kicking myself in the head for ever getting up on a spoiled horse, much less two of them. Anyone there got gaited horses? And how do you start a horse to learn to pull things? (As in carts, logs, buggys, etc...) One of our horses is at such a great and steady age, that I think he's ready to learn somthing like that and make himself useful in ways that the rest of our stable doesn't. (He's our kid safe horse. He won't even step on a cat unless it's trying to get his food) Nice to read you all. (grin) ___ X SLMR 2.1 X --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Wits' Other End BBS (1:123/316) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EEB00015 Date: 10/06/97 From: HANNAH KARLSEN Time: 04:10pm \/To: JEAN PROPHET (Read 0 times) Subj: Horses Well I love horses and as you know I had two horses and a pony. I love riding horses because they're nice, graceful, pretty, and also strong. I know alot about horses and you must too but of course I can't ride them anymore until I get a call back from one of my mom's friends. I am eleven years old and have three siblings but were scatered al over the place. So there is nothing bad about that because I got over it. Just like I did about my horses. they'll never be forgoten. --- Maximus 3.00 * Origin: Northern Lights - (613) 269-2281 (1:163/344) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EEC00000 Date: 10/06/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 07:07pm \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: ???? >-> > Yeah this sounds a lot like the Fjord show we go to every > year or 2 in > > >-> Woodstock, VT. Just a real nice friendly show. >-> That makes it a whole lot for fun for sure!!! > That is why we keep going back. It certainly isn't for the > 8 hour drive each > way! (Or for the Speeding ticket either!) Oh Mike -- you aren't going to tell us that YOU got a speeding ticket ..... YOU?? .... --- * Origin: Jean's Trick Horses (Or is that TRICKY??) (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EEC00001 Date: 10/06/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 07:07pm \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: ???? >-> > Well I am not sure about that. The rule only says gloves > so I suppose >-> so. I > would use leather myself though. >-> Ahhhhhhh MIke -- *I* think YOU would be just STUNNING in those crochet >-> kind >-> of gloves ..... > Well I don't even wear gloves most of the winter even up > here. I just don't > like them. I don't show myself so I don't wear them at > all. Niki is the one > that has to wear them not me. I do somtimes go along as a > decoration. I thought YOU were the groom ... --- * Origin: Home is Where the HORSES Are!!! (1:371/33)