--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EC200000 Date: 08/01/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 07:57am \/To: JAN MURPHY (Read 0 times) Subj: Fiddle's problems JM :>"The Thinking Horseman" column has a scary account of how JM :>her horse JM :>coliced (not too bad, thank goodness) -- as far as Kip can JM :>tell, it was the bute they were giving him for his hock I got the same issue, and lo and behold, the very next day Ms. Fiddle was very ouchy in the belly. She was on 2 bute a day at the time, I moved her back to one. The tummy trouble didn't last long, but it did scare me to death. She's been fine on the 1 bute for the last couple of days. I'm hoping to ease her off completely within the next week. The vet and farrier came yesterday for a joint appointment and "compromised" on lowering her heels a little and putting on pads and shoes. This is her first set of shoes! (My baby!) She stood like a trooper through the whole thing...you'd have thought she'd had it done a million times before. It was good to see that all the hammering and nailing didn't seem to cause her any pain at all. She's moving quite well today (although she did get an extra bute last night on vet's orders). Time will tell, I'm sure, but she's as sound now as she's been in a long time. What I'm seeing this a.m....a little girl getting used to her first pair of shoes! JM :>Good luck with her, and with figuring out the thyroid JM :>problem, or whatever it is. Well, thyroids came back WNL again...vet says if he could figure out why most horses get laminitis, he'd be a millionaire! She's losing some weight on her crash diet. Handful of pelleted feed (only to keep her from kicking the barn down when Shiloh gets fed), and grass hay. Since she's doing so much better, the vet says I can increase her turnout, which should help some with the weight problem (and with her going slowly loony in her stall!). I'm going to give her a few days, stop the bute, see what happens, etc. Vet also thought if she did well, I could start riding her again in a week or two. Conservative that I am, I'm going to take all this very slowly...step by ep. Thanks for the info, Jan. All that bute was causing me concern before the PH article, but that really put the frosting on the cake!! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EC200001 Date: 08/01/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 07:59am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: pix MM :>-> Wanna see my vet bill? MM :>Sure as long as I don't have to write the check for it! Oh, come on Mike! What are friends for? (g) Nothing like a sick horse to deplete one's cash reserves.....arggghhhhhh!!! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EC200002 Date: 08/01/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 08:07am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Fiddle Well, I think we finally have the laminitis under control and are on our way to normalcy, once again. Vet and farrier were out yesterday and compromised on lowering her heel some and putting on pads and shoes. She seems really well today, although I think it'll take a few days to figure out what those things are on her feet! She was a real trooper about having her first pair of shoes put on...no sign of pain when the nails went in or anything. Stood stock still for the whole routine. She's down to 1 bute a day, which will be decreased over the next week to none. Then the vet says I can start riding her in a week or two. Gonna take it really slow, though. I might start hand walking her on the road again. Not only will it give us BOTH some exercise, but will reacclimate her to being off the property (again!). Still havent' found a cause for all this, except for her being overweight and porking up so quickly this spring (for what reason, we still don't know). And...she's still growing. Both vet and farrier say they think she's going through another growing spurt, and that that might have been the cause as well. Who knows!! BTW, my 14.3+ horse is now up to about 15.1...and her rump is up again! I had resigned myself to "almost a pony", and may end up with a good-sized horse afterall! Arabs! You never know! Horses! You REALLY never know!! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EC200003 Date: 07/31/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 05:37pm \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 0 times) Subj: Another Pony and Carriage .. > JP :> Buddy heard about a Shetland Pony, > carriage and tack a > JP :>few miles away from us. We're going to > JP :>price is definately right ($500 for > JP :>figure if the pony and carriage are any > good at all we can > JP :>use them in our business ....... shoot, > we can sell the > JP :>rest of the tack if we want to ..... > we'll see. I'll let > JP :>you know what happens. > Oh, geez....here we go again (g)!! Nope -- no good ....... the carriage was in shambles -- pony not so nice ..... what can I say -- that's probably why THEY wanted to see it --- * Origin: Home of Mr X's 'XTRAORDINARY CARRIAGE SERVICES! (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EC200004 Date: 07/31/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 05:42pm \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 0 times) Subj: Horse Chiropractor > JP :>was rubbing a soreness or anything like > that -- in her > JP :>estimation X was in fine condition and > did NOT have any > JP :>type back,leg,rump,chest etc soreness > .... > Well, then....the word "bratty" comes to > mind (g). Try the calm and cool or whatever > it's called. I was thinking about doing that -- it's worth a try anyway. > JP :> Interesting ..... as Bob K told me > -- watch the BUTE -- > JP :>it causes stomach problems sometimes if > Yep. I have her down to 1 a day...she > started showing signs of tummy trouble. > Don't want a colic on top of everything > else. Vet and farrier are coming out Thurs. > for a joint appointment. She's much better, > but still a little ouchy. Might be putting > pads and shoes on her for the first > time...I'd like to leave that as a last > resort, though. Let me know what they decide ..... I sent you a package with some articles I found -- however with this impending UPS strike heaven only knows when you'll get your box > JP :> Hehehehehe ....... know what you > mean. You know what's > JP :>the matter with you and me, Meg?? > We're TOO darn concerned > JP :>-- AND, top THAT off with we've BOTH > lost a horse that we > JP :>dearly loved .... WE'RE PARANOID!!!!!! > Totally!! Every time one of my horses > breathes wrong, I freak out! This is not a > good thing! I know ..... I'm the same way .... and Buddy is ALMOST as bad too .....I go out and "check" on the horses every night before I go to bed .... of coure "the herd" LOVES it -- they get more attention and ususally a carrot or apple to boot too > JP :> OH, BTW, Barbara (the Horse > Chiropractor) fell IN LOVE > JP :>with X ...... she told Buddy that she > really was NOT > JP :>partial to Arabians ..... by the time > JP :>couldn't hardly belive he's only 6 yrs > old (is it 6 now??). > Yep, he's 6 and Fiddle's 5. Hard to > believe, heh? Don't know why you're > surprised she fell in love with X! I sure > did! Heheheheh ....... what's NOT to love about the X-Man ..... > JP :>people around here actually MEET the > X-Man they rapidly > JP :>come ARABIAN people ). > Ah! A true representative of the breed! > You ought to let IAHA know about him...might > want to do an article for their magazine! Hummmmmmmmm ...... interesting thought -- wonder if someone here has the address -- maybe I'll just write to them and tell them about 'Xtraordinary X-Man ;-) --- * Origin: Home of Mr X's 'XTRAORDINARY CARRIAGE SERVICES! (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EC200005 Date: 07/31/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 05:42pm \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 0 times) Subj: Job Done ... > JP :> It WAS neat for sure!! What a GREAT > thing to do .... > JP :>have fun AND GET PA > JP :>ID FOR IT TOO !!!!! > Your outfit sounds neat! Glad it all went > so well. And great news about Tuffy's job! Things are really starting to fall into place now......it seems to be working out really good for us!! --- * Origin: Home of Mr X's 'XTRAORDINARY CARRIAGE SERVICES! (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EC200006 Date: 07/31/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 05:43pm \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 0 times) Subj: X-Man > JP :> The man told Buddy that he had a > mare that looked > JP :>exactly like X and wanted him too ..... > X is NOT for sale > JP :>!!!!!!! > At any price! (And if he were, you'd give > me first refusal, right?!) RIGHT -- you got it, Meg !!! But I believe that X is like "Baby" -- definately NOT for sale -- EVER --- * Origin: Home of Mr X's 'XTRAORDINARY CARRIAGE SERVICES! (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EC300000 Date: 08/01/97 From: MIKE MAY Time: 05:18am \/To: JEAN PROPHET (Read 0 times) Subj: Man Made Shade -> > Yeah I thought it was a pretty good idea for > FL when I saw it before. I -> am > sure the fans help out too. The addition > sounds nice too. How big -> is it total > now? -> Well, 56'x44' ..... the barn is bigger than our house . Well that makes sense, the horses are bigger than you and Buddy. And there are more of them! --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: Home of Malla, the spoiled Norwegian Fjord (1:2613/128) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EC400000 Date: 07/30/97 From: JAN MURPHY Time: 11:50pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Equus #238 case report Interesting case report in this month's (August) EQUUS magazine. A six-year old Thoroughbred stallion started losing weight. Despite being fed a high-calorie diet, and being dewormed, vaccinated, having his teeth floated, he still dropped weight. Then he developed muscle tremors and had difficulty walking. He was taken to Purdue, where one vet first suspected EPM, or wobbler's syndrome. Another thought it might be EMND. They put the stallion through a battery of neurological tests, did a spinal tap, and requested blood testing for insecticide poisoning. Another young horse on the same farm was showing signs of weight loss and incoordination. While the first horse was being tested, his condition worsened enough that he, too, was brought into the hospital. The vets had two weak, trembling, emaciated horses on her hands, and no answers to the problem. Clean spinal fluid, no exposure to pesticides, nothing. Anybody want to guess what the culprit turned out to be? Lead poisoning! The vets were fooled because horses are fussy eaters and don't have a problem anywhere near as bad as cows, where lead poisoning is common. And the horses weren't presenting with all the symptoms the vets expected, such as difficulty swallowing. Turns out that only 40 percent of affected horses show "typical" symptoms. The other 60 percent show signs as varied as laminitis or colic, or even die suddenly and mysteriously. The two affected horses were confirmed cribbers and wood chewers, and had been turned out in a back pasture for years which had a windbreak fashioned from a pair of old barn doors. The paint on the doors was cracked and peeling, and tests revealed that it contained almost twice the amount of lead that current regulations allow. The horses were treated promptly, but even after a year, have not gained a full recovery. Both still have tremors when they are excited, and neither is up to full weight. They have not been able to return to training, and have been given early retirement in a lead-free pasture. One of the vets is quoted as saying "We don't know what the long- term effects will be." --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Sci-Fido II, World's Oldest SF BBS, Berkeley, CA (1:161/84.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EC400001 Date: 08/03/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 06:38am \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 0 times) Subj: Fiddle > Well, I think we finally have the laminitis > under control and are on our way to > normalcy, once again. Vet and farrier were > out yesterday and compromised on lowering > her heel some and putting on pads and shoes. Sounds reasonable ...... > She seems really well today, although I > think it'll take a few days to figure out > what those things are on her feet! She was > a real trooper about having her first pair > of shoes put on...no sign of pain when the > nails went in or anything. Stood stock > still for the whole routine. She's down to VERY GOOD!!! She knows you are just trying to help her feel better! > 1 bute a day, which will be decreased over > the next week to none. Then the vet says I > can start riding her in a week or two. > Gonna take it really slow, though. I might > start hand walking her on the road again. > Not only will it give us BOTH some exercise, > but will reacclimate her to being off the > property (again!). Hehehehehe ...... she won't have forgotten there aren't any "boogie men" out there. She'll be just fine, Meg. > Still havent' found a cause for all this, > except for her being overweight and porking > up so quickly this spring (for what reason, > we still don't know). And...she's still > growing. Both vet and farrier say they > think she's going through another growing > spurt, and that that might have been the > cause as well. Who knows!! BTW, my 14.3+ > horse is now up to about 15.1...and her rump > is up again! I had resigned myself to > "almost a pony", and may end up with a > good-sized horse afterall! Arabs! You > never know! I know exactly what you mean -- X-Man did the same thing. Maybe that's just something that Arabs do ...... X is at 15.2 now and has a rump any horse would die for ....... Hey, sure would like some pics of your little darling!! How 'bout it??!! ;-) > Horses! You REALLY never know!! Ain't THAT the truth!! --- * Origin: Home of Mr X's 'XTRAORDINARY CARRIAGE SERVICES! (1:371/33)