--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBR00000 Date: 07/21/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 07:10pm \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Fiddle BK :>Understand.. given the shear number of articles even in the BK :>more technical magazines (even moreso then EQUUS).. they BK :>all say the same think about grass during spring and fall BK :>growth. There is a serious founder risk there from over BK :>eating. I understand that...however, I think had the "great grass escape" been the precipitating factor, I would have seen an acute laminitis soon after...it didn't happen that way at all. It was a couple of weeks, I think, after that that she just started to go a little lame..this was a progressive thing, not quick. I just read in the new Equus that over 50 percent of laminitis cases have no known cause...scary! BK :>Shouldn't be though.. since when are Arabs prone to BK :>founder? It's late.. but this just doesn't click for me. It didn't for me either...always thought founder was fast onset, with acute symptoms. Guess it isn't in all cases. That's why it took so long to diagnose. BK :>talk about from time to time.. the substitute is a poor oat BK :>hay and the horses are not fond of it. :( Wouldn't you know it...this has been the best hay season in years! And poor Fiddle...on low quality grass hay, with all that good stuff out there (g). BK :>To what degree?? Just curious. Ask your shoer what the BK :>angle is. 53 on one and 54 on the other. BK :>I know... chuckle.. Tush is over the heat and back into BK :>serious runamouk in her turn outs.. She's banged herself up BK :>twice lately.. a cut to the chin and a serious dent in the BK :>head.. took a decent size patch of hair off the other day. Well, with both of them being pretty much stall confined, Shiloh decided to day to freak out when I turned them out (they're in separate turnouts now). That got Fiddle going...she trotted around and threw her lilly pads. Had to get them both in quick! BK :>Yep.. it happens when you're concentrating on two horses. No....I was concentrating on ONE (g)! BK :>Whoops! best take care of that mare meg. :) I am back to checking her out every day, like a good girl. Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBR00001 Date: 07/21/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 07:12pm \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Tush-mania BK :>I haven't had any specific goals to accokplish when I've BK :>gotten on her. I need to start setting some simple goals BK :>for each ride. I had to do that with Fiddle. I would start and stop one thing or another...just better to have a plan. Keeps rider and horse from getting confused! BK :>Nope.. been around for some time now. I don't believe that BK :>they were "official" for some years.. not sure if they are BK :>right now yet. Shrug. BK :> Lunge classes...I think they are official now. Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBR00002 Date: 07/21/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 07:13pm \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Tush-mania BK :>Ahh make that open western mares/Halter class. ;) BK :> BK :>We'uns don't call it "in hand" Y'all.. we call it halter BK :>class. ;) Ahhhhhh....it's my old "Horsemans Chronicle" creeping back! BK :>Color is simply based on quality of color and not physical BK :>comformation. That's why she did so well in the color classes, and not so well in the QH classes! And...why she'll be doing lunge classes instead of HALTER classes (g)! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBR00003 Date: 07/21/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 07:14pm \/To: JEAN PROPHET (Read 1 times) Subj: pix JP :> I'll keep you in mind when I go to buy my Vista V JP :>carriage OK, I'll bite...what's a Vista V carriage (I think that sounds expensive!)? Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBS00000 Date: 07/22/97 From: MIKE MAY Time: 05:30am \/To: JAN MURPHY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: 1 Year ... -> Man made shade often interferes too much with air circulation. Tree hade -> blocks out the direct heat of the sun, but lets the breeze flow around ore -> readily. Hmmm, not sure I buy this one Jan. ;-) --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: Home of Malla, the spoiled Norwegian Fjord (1:2613/128) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBS00001 Date: 07/22/97 From: MIKE MAY Time: 05:35am \/To: JAN MURPHY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: 1 Year ... -> And now, part two: -> -> My physicist husband reminds me that since trees respirate, they are natural -> evaporative coolers. They put out moisture, and the moisture evaporates, so -> it cools the air. Now we are talking. And is AZ that probably really works with the low humidity they have. Around here I don't think we get much evaporative cooling effect. When the humidity is 90+ you don't tend to get much evaporative cooling effect. -> I still think there is an extra cooling effect because tree branches don't -> block the breeze as much as a solid man-made shade; this allows our own -> human evaporative cooling more chance to work. ;-) Well no one said the manmade shade had to be solid! It could just be a roof without any walls. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: Home of Malla, the spoiled Norwegian Fjord (1:2613/128) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBS00002 Date: 07/22/97 From: MIKE MAY Time: 05:37am \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 1 times) Subj: Nice!! -> Hee! We had the same problem! Thanks to Mother Nature, a few years ago n -> an awful ice storm, the tree broke in half...we cut it down. It keeps -> growing shoots from the stump, but I keep cutting them back! It was kinda -> sad to see it go...Mike used to climb it when he was little, and he used o -> love to eat the berries! But I don't miss the psychodylic bird poop! Yeah I also cut ours down. I think we went through one year with that mess. Then we moved too! --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: Home of Malla, the spoiled Norwegian Fjord (1:2613/128) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBT00000 Date: 07/23/97 From: MIKE MAY Time: 05:43am \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 1 times) Subj: pix -> JP :> I'll keep you in mind when I go to buy my Vista V -> JP :>carriage -> -> OK, I'll bite...what's a Vista V carriage (I think that sounds pensive!)? I think it probably is spelled Vis-a-Vis. And pronounced Visa Vee. And yes most things associated with driving are expensive. Or is that just with horses??? ;-) --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: Home of Malla, the spoiled Norwegian Fjord (1:2613/128) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBT00001 Date: 07/22/97 From: JAN MURPHY Time: 08:44am \/To: JEAN PROPHET (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Another Carriage Serive Around .. > BUT, we now have a little problem ..... he does NOT > like the blacksmith putting shoes on his front hooves .... ... > .... but it's like he gets > bored with the idea of his feet being pounded on (putting > in the nails) and he starts to wiggle, jump around and all > in all act STUPID . Don't mind me, just thinking out loud again. What problem, if any, might show up because of the concussion of the nails being driven in? I had a bad tooth that didn't hurt at all -- except during my root canal work, when my dentist put the dental dam in and put the clamp on. Something about the way the clamp went on put pressure on the nerve. Heck of a way to find out the tooth was still alive! Could he be a little ouchy somehow? So that when he walks, and his weight is distributed over the whole hoof, it doesn't bother him, but when the farrier is driving in a nail, the point-source concussion from the nail is bugging him? Of course, it could just be that he's being a brat, too. --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Sci-Fido II, World's Oldest SF BBS, Berkeley, CA (1:161/84.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBT00002 Date: 07/23/97 From: BOB KOHL Time: 05:47am \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Nice!! > used to love to eat the berries! But I don't miss the psychodylic bird Beware the bird poop.. it and Possum poop are the known vector of EPM. Always clean the bird poop out of the horses water's.. I am. BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861)