--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBN00006 Date: 07/17/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 06:15pm \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 1 times) Subj: Tush-mania > JP :> "PROPERLY BITTED" ..... ahhhhhhhhh, Meg .... > never > JP :>heard that expression before > Actually, it means training the horse to accept the > bit..you know...putting the bit in their mouths when > they're young, letting them get used to it, etc. > We've all done it (g)! I know -- I just found the statement funny > JP :> Hate to be stupid here -- but what's a > "French Snaffle" > JP :>bit?? All I've ever used on X-Man is a little > Tom Thumb > It's a jointed snaffle with a small metal plate > between the two pieces. Very mild bit. Not to be > confused with a Dr. Bristol, which also has the plate, > but it's angled amd a little bigger, I think, and > applies far more pressure. OH ...... okey. --- * Origin: Home of Mr X's 'Xtraordinary Carriage Services (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBN00007 Date: 07/18/97 From: MIKE MAY Time: 04:58pm \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: assorted -> Well.. seems like the temp server isn't the only one having a problem with -> Internic.. I just got Email from two services about it. Whew! Great! --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: Home of Malla, the spoiled Norwegian Fjord (1:2613/128) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBP00000 Date: 07/19/97 From: BOB KOHL Time: 03:18am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: assorted > -> Well.. seems like the temp server isn't the only one having a problem > with > -> Internic.. I just got Email from two services about it. Whew! > Great! Great??? Jeez Mike.. and it wasn't internic.. it was the company that issues the .org names, etc.. But the internet has been FUN this week.. that and AT&T took a large dump.. whew! What a week. BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBP00001 Date: 07/19/97 From: BOB KOHL Time: 03:54pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: In Memorium Just had a talk with Douglas Baders widow and I've just heard that Max Stienhoff (sp) passed away along with a few others. I had the pleasure of briefly knowing Max in the past years. He flew with the German Eagle Squadron during WW II. He was a gentleman with a supperb sense of humor in lue of his massive injuries (burns) suffered when his ME-262 went in shortly after take off during the later part of the war. In fact his nickname at one time was "NATOFACE" since he recovered and had subsequent plasic surgeries in NATO hospitals. We hit if off because I'd also been fairly badly burned year ago (although *nowhere* near the injuries suffered by Max), so we both knew what this was like and we were both horsemen. Max was one hell of a guy. He'll be missed. I hope where ever Max is.. he's got a good plane, a full load of gas.. and a great horse waiting for him when he lands. BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBQ00000 Date: 07/19/97 From: MIKE MAY Time: 08:29am \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 1 times) Subj: assorted -> I'll give you a laugh.. was browsing through the latest issue of the Journal -> and was looking at the pictures.. Noted the picture on page 36 and spotted -> certain young ladies.. ;) -> -> Yep.. didn't reccognise Malla.. but spotted Nicki. :) Yeah that was at the NY State Fair Grounds. It was the NY State Breeders show. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: Home of Malla, the spoiled Norwegian Fjord (1:2613/128) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBQ00001 Date: 07/19/97 From: JAN MURPHY Time: 06:30pm \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: 1 Year ... > > -> Of course. There are palm trees and a pine tree that > is at least 30 feet > -> tall in the front yard that sold me on the place. The > back yard has two > -> enormous mulberry trees and a Chinese elm or something > like that. Tree > -> shade is COOLER than manmade shades. > > Oh really? Now why is tree shade cooler than man made shade? > Or is that > "Cooler" not a reference to temperature? ;-) Man made shade often interferes too much with air circulation. Tree shade blocks out the direct heat of the sun, but lets the breeze flow around more readily. --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Sci-Fido II, World's Oldest SF BBS, Berkeley, CA (1:161/84.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBQ00002 Date: 07/20/97 From: JAN MURPHY Time: 09:50am \/To: JEAN PROPHET (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Another Carriage Serive Around .. > BUT, we now have a little problem ..... he does NOT > like the blacksmith putting shoes on his front hooves .... [stuff deleted] > We can't find anything wrong with them ..... AND, he's > OK when you clean his feet (front and rear) ..... he's not > bad about picking up his feet .... but it's like he gets > bored with the idea of his feet being pounded on (putting > in the nails) and he starts to wiggle, jump around and all > in all act STUPID . [more trimming] > .... X isn't lame -- nails aren't > hurting him ...... shoes are on good and proper ..... It's > nuts!! Any suggestions?? Jean What order does the farrier do his feet in? Does he do the back feet first, then the front feet? Maybe he has some small problem somewhere which only manifests itself when he is asked to stand in one place for a certain amount of time. And when you are cleaning his feet, you don't hit that "too long" amount of time, but the session with the farrier is longer. His behavior reminds me of two things. First of all, when I stand in one place for too long (like at the bus stop or at work), my back starts to hurt. If I am walking around, I'm fine. And second, X's situation reminds me of going to the dentist. Usually I can't relax and after a while, I start to get tense just from the effort of holding still for so long. It's particularly bad when I have to open my jaw real wide for a long time. If I am given a break every now and again so I can close my mouth and then open it again, I feel much better. So I'm wondering what would happen if you gave X a couple of minutes of a 'rest break' in the middle of the session? Walk him around and let him stretch out his muscles and maybe get a chance to relax a little. Then go back to get the other two feet done. And if the farrier is doing the back feet first, maybe try doing the front feet first. I'm also wondering how he is loading his weight when the farrier is working on him. If one of his back legs was getting 'ouchy', you'd expect it to show up when the opposite back leg was getting worked on, wouldn't you? So if that's not the case, maybe the problem is somewhere else, like in his spine. He's stil young, so it could be something as simple as muscle fatigue. He's being asked to hold himself up, and there's only so long he can do it without getting tired. Let me know if any of this makes sense, or if there are any other clues. --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Sci-Fido II, World's Oldest SF BBS, Berkeley, CA (1:161/84.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBQ00003 Date: 07/20/97 From: JAN MURPHY Time: 01:50pm \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: 1 Year ... > Oh really? Now why is tree shade cooler than man made shade? > Or is that > "Cooler" not a reference to temperature? ;-) And now, part two: My physicist husband reminds me that since trees respirate, they are natural evaporative coolers. They put out moisture, and the moisture evaporates, so it cools the air. I still think there is an extra cooling effect because tree branches don't block the breeze as much as a solid man-made shade; this allows our own human evaporative cooling more chance to work. ;-) --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Sci-Fido II, World's Oldest SF BBS, Berkeley, CA (1:161/84.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBQ00004 Date: 07/20/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 08:37am \/To: JEAN PROPHET (Read 1 times) Subj: Another Carriage Serive Around .. JP :>can figure out what's wrong. X isn't lame -- nails aren't JP :>hurting him ...... shoes are on good and proper ..... It's JP :>nuts!! Any suggestions?? Might be that he's just developed a phobia to having his front shoes done...you know, it kinda starts small and builds and builds until you have a real problem... Have you ever tried one of those paste calmers on him? Or maybe have the vet out to tranq him for the next shoeing or two. Sometimes just breaking the cycle will help. Other than that, and if you're sure there's no pain anywhere (including his shoulders, back, etc) while he's being shod, then I don't know, either, Jean! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: EBQ00005 Date: 07/20/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 08:41am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Nice!! MM :>When the berries were still on the tree the birds would eat MM :>them MM :>and then leave the most lovely shade of purple stripes down MM :>the side of the MM :>yellow house! Hee! We had the same problem! Thanks to Mother Nature, a few years ago in an awful ice storm, the tree broke in half...we cut it down. It keeps growing shoots from the stump, but I keep cutting them back! It was kinda sad to see it go...Mike used to climb it when he was little, and he used to love to eat the berries! But I don't miss the psychodylic bird poop! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173)