--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E5400005 Date: 05/03/97 From: BOB SEABORN Time: 11:51pm \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 0 times) Subj: spring???? >>> Tried to call Satti tonight.. but I think he's still out or busy. > >> Say "Hi" to him for me, it's been quite a while since he and I >> talked. Lessee now, he was RC17 at the time. :) > > Will do.. but it'll be next week some time. 'K. >> Oh, and I got a CC: of a message from Dave Moufarrage addressed to >> Adrian, telling him off. Get me your email address, and I'll send >you> copies of what's going on, if you wish. > > > Netmail please. He already posted the exact same words in ZEC today, still want it netmailled? You get a REAL fast modem yet (I dislike 14.4's nowadays)? > >> Why? I can easily get you on the InterMail team, if you ever want >> a REAL mailer, that ain't d.broken. :) > > Hmmm now there's a thought. Especially after I heard what you were REALLY doing in Illinois. FD? YECCCHHH!!! .....Bob --- GEcho/32 & IM 2.50 * Origin: Further North - USR 33.6 x2 (306) 956-3383 (1:140/12.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E5B00000 Date: 05/04/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 09:05am \/To: JAN MURPHY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: shoe-mania JM :>I started off with the black leather barn shoe, which was JM :>way too tight. Switched to the nubuck and they were much JM :>better. The black paddock boot. I have horrible problems with my Achilis tendons...and those boots would have been torture! They were just too stiff all around. After reading Debbie's post, I'm glad they didn't feel right and I didn't spend the bucks! JM :>catching on the carpet. If they finish breaking in, they JM :>should be fine -- hard, sure, but fine. Well, I hope so! Now that we've finally gotten you into some "horse gear" I'd hate to see them not work out for you (g)! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E5B00001 Date: 05/04/97 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 09:09am \/To: DEBBY TAYLOR (Read 0 times) Subj: Our vacation! DT :>We've been having a weird spring too. One day its almost DT :>like summer DT :>the next is a flash back to winter then we do a couple of DT :>days of spring DT :>then repeat everything. I'm afraid spring is almost over DT :>though the DT :>hills are turning brown instead of green. It's finally turning green here!!! Looks really pretty. My back lawn already needs a cut. I've got plans this year for a new herb garden (if I can figure a way to keep the dogs and cats out), and I'm going to start some veggie tub gardens. Way to old (g) to start digging up large veg. gardens! Figure the tubs will be more than manageable and easy to care for. Since there are just the 3 of us at home now, I don't need all that many tomatoes or cukes...and certainly no overabundant zucchini! We've closed off the front pasture this year and will be seeding/liming/fertilizing it today. Gonna give it a year before I put the girls back on it. They'll have to do with their mud paddock and the other "grass" (that's a joke!) turnout. Then, next year we'll close off the other grass turnout, reseed, and use the new one. Hope this works! Now, if Mother Nature will cooperate and give us enough rain......and enough sun! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E5B00002 Date: 05/04/97 From: BOB KOHL Time: 06:21am \/To: BOB SEABORN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: ZEC Nomination >> Not in this echo.. he's nasty! ;) > That's what I heard. btw, had a nice talk with Ed Georgen tonite, > you might want to check with him for details, or give me a call. You pay > this time. :) Nope.. I'm already aware of it. The word is Wait, more going on then you're aware of. I'm not at liberty to discuss it yet.. but it's worth waiting for. BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E5B00003 Date: 05/04/97 From: BOB KOHL Time: 06:22am \/To: BOB SEABORN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: spring???? > Especially after I heard Bob, nothing personal.. but put a cork in it... BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E5C00000 Date: 05/02/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 07:47am \/To: DEBBY TAYLOR (Read 0 times) Subj: Mr X's FIRST Job!! >-> Yep ...... been there - done that . I finally found a reliable >-> farrier > Well he got there and they both have even heels now. > Diva is still > stiff but getting better Smokey can be worked now. Very good!!!!!! Glad it all worked out OK --- * Origin: "Baby" - Gone But NOT Forgotten!! (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E5C00001 Date: 05/05/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 06:38am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Crazy PATTI ... PsycoPAT ....... (and I've been calling her FRUITCAKE too) has taken a change in attitude since her bucking routine in the round pen that we had a few weeks ago. She's become a real lover ..... VERY good and attentive (like she KNOWS I was really upset with her antics). I can go in her stall without her turning her back on me - I can lead her around with my hand only on her nose and neck (of course we've been slowly working up to this and a couple of weeks ago she turned on my and I took the whip to her hindend ...... she swung around and hasn't turned on me since). I've been VERY firm with her - without being abusive - and it's worked ..... I still don't trust her but at least she RESPECTS me now! But, anyway ...... she's been funny as heck - we had our pond dug deeper -- the mud/dirt etc was piled up behind the pond ..... well, when the machinery finally quit and we let the horses out of the barn the first place PATTI ran to was that mud ...... she HAD to investigate. She stuck her muzzle down in that mud .. then lifted her head to the wind - lips rolled up ...... and, here she was lookin like a kid who had just eaten dirt - mud all over her lips ...... she looked sooooo funny. Then she discovered that Buddy and I were pulling weeds in the pasture -- she had to come "help" ..... yea, right .......we would pull the weeks up and she would scatter them all over ...... then she would try and "help" us pull the weeds ...... she was like an innocent little child. I've just taken a very firm attitude with her .... maybe there's hope for her .... don't know. I'll just take it slow, easy and firm ..... we'll see. --- * Origin: "Baby" - Gone But NOT Forgotten!! (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E5C00002 Date: 04/25/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 10:46pm \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 0 times) Subj: Mr X's FIRST Job!! > JP :>bringing Tuffy along for company for X ..... then > I thought > JP :>maybe I'd also bring along his cart ...... then > trail along > JP :>at a comfortable distance behind Buddy .... that > You could be the caboose! Wouldn't it be hard to > handle X and Tuffy at the same time, though? You might have a point there ..... however, Tuffy stands very still (even without anyone in the cart or holding him). I hadn't thought about that though, Meg -- something more to ponder over . Thanks for bringing it up. > JP :> I never thought of doing that but I'll bet it > would be > JP :>fun ...... I'll have to see where they are > showing harness > JP :>around here. > Most of our open shows have driving classes. It's > usually Morgans and Arabians in the classes, too. > It's usually the Morgans who win (g). If you can get > ahold of a Morgan Horse Assoc. or the Arabian breed > handbook, I'll bet the specifications for tack, > attire, etc. are in them. If X is registered and > you're a member of any affiliate Arabian Horse > Association, you should have gotten a handbook anyway! > If not, try calling the Arabian horse breed registry. > I know it's IAHA for 1/2 Arabs and Anglos...and I > know they publish a handbook. X is registered -- but with the 1/2 Arab Assoc as his dam wasn't blood typed ....... At least I was able to register him this way with the IAHA even though he's really full blooded Arabian ... And, yes, I do have a handbook -- I just never thought of looking in there --- * Origin: Home of Mr X's 'Xtraordinary Carriage Services (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E5C00003 Date: 04/25/97 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 11:00pm \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 0 times) Subj: Workin' Miss PATTI > JP :> She made it 1/4 way 'round in the pen (at a > walk no > JP :>less) and all of a sudden she started to buck > .... I want > JP :>to tell you she would have made a good rodeo > horse look bad > Hmmm...you only had her halter on? Would she have > done this with a bridle? Fiddle will sometimes think > it's playtime when she only is lunged with a halter. > But she usually behaves when she's fully tacked up. > Has she done this before? If not, then maybe it was a > bad spook, or a bee or something? > Whatever it was, it doesn't sound nice! Phew! I have no idea what in the world spooked her -- everything was the same. I always lunge first in her halter -- then put on her bridle and lunge a little more. Nothing had changed -- that's what was so strange ..... > JP :>minute. As it was, she did stand still and calm > to my > JP :>voice cooing to her. After she was totally calm, > we > JP :>started around the pen again on the lunge line > and she was > JP :>good as gold. > I have noticed with some horses that once they "get > going" like that, they scare themselves to death. That's it ...... she was certainly scared to death and I couldn't figure out what had started her off in the first place. > It's almost like a chain reaction...they start > running/bucking, get scared, run/buck some more/ get > more scared/ run/buck more/ get paniced, etc. Sounds > like that's what happened here. And, I don't have a > clue as to what to do about it. Wish I did, Jean. > Only thing I can suggest is short, easy trips around > the pen on the lunge. If she looks like she's going > to get nervous, stop, pat her, then send her out at a > walk again. However, if she explodes on you like that > with no obvious reason, then I don't know what you do. That's exactly what I've been doing -- slow and easy. I've decided that I'm NOT going to ride her ..... haven't decided what else to do though at this point ..... maybe she'd made a good brood mare ..... who knows. Speaking of a brood mare -- would you believe that X mounted her the other day ........ Now THAT was a cute trick as he has these "knobby" type shoes on to help keep him from sliding around on the pavement -- his shoes caught PATTI's back and made a DEEP gash (more hide than anything else but you can certainly see where it happend (and how). Now I suppose I'll have to either do something else about his shoes, OR keep them separated when she comes in heat. (And, BTW, she wasn't in heat when she did all this stupid bucking stuff she did so that's not why she did what she did). As far as I know he's never tried that before ..... (or maybe he has and we just didn't see him do it). We THINK he's been gelded ...... but ........ now I'm wondering as he drops down where the girls are in heat - and it's getting more and more prounced (if you know what I mean). He's 5 now (June of 1992 - that does make him a 5 yr old, doesn't it??) I know we talked before about him maybe just not dropping (I also know that you or someone here gave me the proper name for it but I've forgotten what it is). The vet told me they "couldn't feel anything" ..... but I think that the only way you would really know is with a x-ray .... maybe I'll talk with our vet again about it. > JP :> She's dangerous, Meg ...... I know it and I'm > really > JP :>very careful with her. I don't think I'm going > to ride > JP :>her. I'll work her on the lunge line and that's > it. > Somehow, I don't blame you. However, be aware that > some horses figure out real quick when they've scared > you, and then learn that scaring you means the end of > whatever work they were expected to do. Don't let her No ....... she doesn't scare me when I'm on the ground with her .... she's tried all the imtimidation routines she knows on me -- didn't work. When she does something stupid I calm her down and then we go back to work. I was finally gettting ready to ride her again when she "exploded" ..... SHE didn't know at that point I was going to get on her -- I wasn't even too sure . > get your goat! Shiloh has a tendency to do > this...she'll spook (a little hop is all) on occasion, > and then figures she'll be done for the day. We're > working on coming to an understanding about that (g). > I think her former owner was a real yahoo! And I > think that once they got her revved up, they got > scared and just put her away for the day. Now she > thinks that if she does something to make her rider > nervous, she'll be able to quit. Aha! No such luck, Yes, they'll all do that from time to time -- even good natured Mr X will "try" me from time to time..... never works though -- they don't get out of work THAT easy > little Ms. Appy! Not at my barn (g)! The mind of a > horse is a terrible thing....... Like little 2 yr olds (terrible twos ). --- * Origin: Home of Mr X's 'Xtraordinary Carriage Services (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E5C00004 Date: 05/07/97 From: BOB KOHL Time: 03:08am \/To: DEBBY TAYLOR (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Our vacation! Hey Deb.. called that gal twice looking for info on the Dorrance weekend. No call backs. :( BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861)