--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200032 Date: 12/31/96 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 08:44pm \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Cart/Carriage Rides?? > was quite the subject of discussion here. BK> BK> Well a heck of a lot better then LA! ;) BK> BK> > To get back on topic - what is it we were talking about? :) BK> BK> Uhh................. huh? ;) UHHHHHHHH - "Cart/Carriage Rides??" according to the subject! --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200033 Date: 12/31/96 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 08:45pm \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Test? > BK> Ahhhhh what's a "right to work" state?? BK> > You don't need to be a union member. No closed shops; they're > against the law here...although I used to work in one, out of Local 469, > the Plumbers and Pipefitters Union. The line was, "we're not a closed > shop but we get our hiring list from the union." BK> BK> That wouldn't work in Hollywood.. ;) I understand the part about the SAG, but does that hold true for all the trades? Arghh! I am going to volunteer this week to be shop steward in our shop - we haven't had one for a couple of years. With the lack of respect for unions that I have, I think I'll do an awesome job! --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200034 Date: 12/31/96 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 08:47pm \/To: DEBBY TAYLOR (Read 1 times) Subj: Blankets DT> You're right. If the sun breaks through the fog it reaches the high DT> sixties low 70's then at night it fogs back up and and reaches the DT> 40's. My horses get turned out daily unless it rains or the pastures DT> are too wet like its been since the last storm. The ranch got almost 2 DT> inches in one day out of that last storm which wouldn't be too bad DT> excecpt we hadn't finished drying out from the last storm and its DT> suppose to start raining again tommorrow. The stalls are a REAL mess. DT> They are on the south side and the last two storms were from the south DT> too with strong winds. Its going to take ages for them to dry. Refresh my memory - you are where in California? I promise to look it up in my atlas! --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200035 Date: 12/31/96 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 08:48pm \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 1 times) Subj: Tush! MA> Cowboys? Actually there are a few who THINK they're cowboys (g). Those are guys who have UDDERS, right? COWboys? --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200036 Date: 12/31/96 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 08:49pm \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Cavessons, French and otherwise MA> in the right hands, they make great horses. MA> Fiddle's mom was one of these, although she didn't MA> quite fit the bill of "great horse". She had a 'tude MA> a mile wide, which occasionally shows up in her MA> daughter (g). My Mustang mare, Kachina Doll - aka "Hell Bitch" - (a name from "Lonesome Dove") was a bay tobiano pinto - with a simnilar attitude. The friend I gave her to (the only other person I ever met who LOVED Kachina Doll and understood her) bred her to an awesome Paint stallion. The offspring had beautiful color - and Momma's attitude. ;( MA> Sounds like just a plain cavesson to me. That wouldn't MA> have the effect of the others that I mentioned, MA> although if you buckle it tight, it will put some MA> pressure on her upper nose. Not quite sure why you're MA> getting the response you're getting. You don't buckle MA> it OVER the cheek pieces, do you? She has me buckle it as tight as I can - I understand that it keeps her mouth closed so she can't get all strung out. MA> Actuallyl, getting on the bit doesn't really mean that. Getting on the MA> bit is where the horse accepts the bit, rounds itself, MA> and goes with impulsion from behind. You can do all MA> you want with a horse's mouth to keep their head in MA> the right position, but if your horse isn't doing the MA> rest, he's not "on the bit". Many people believe that MA> just because they've solved the "mouth" problem, MA> they've done the whole job. However, I'm sure Mrs. B. MA> knows the difference (g)! Okay, I see what you are saying. I had the problem with Dub for a few years where he would have his neck beautifully arched but he wasn't on the bit. It's only in the past few years he is "on the bit" with the impulsion from the rear. When I first got him, I had him to where I would tap him on the head between the ears to get his head down. His head would go down, but he wasn't necessarily collected. In fact, at times with the curb bits he'd be BEHIND the bit; something I think I see Spot do occasionally with Penelope driving her. Maybe it's just the neck position. MA> adjusting my leg, seat, etc. to get Thistle to do what MA> she already knew how to do, and I have to work really MA> hard to stay quiet in the saddle with Fid. MA> Thistle was an amazing horse, but she did come with particular problems MA> that required a particular style of riding...not one you'd want to use MA> with a green horse. But I learned so much from riding Dub - you don't relax with him - that I wouldn't have learned with an "easy", pushbutton horse. Or a green one who hasn't picked up any bad habits yet. We went trail riding a few days ago for about 3 hours; J.D. and Dean were STUNNED at what a great little horse Casey has turned out to be. But he was unbroke when we bought him; he never learned a lot of bad habits horses learn from bad riders. BTW, my husband, RICHARD the BIG MA> HEART, had a headstone made for me for Christmas for MA> Thistle's grave. It's beautiful, pink granite with MA> ahorsehead and Thistle's name on it. We're going to MA> lay it flush with the ground so the grass will grow MA> around it and we can just mow over it. We're having MA> somewhat of a thaw here this week, so I hope we can get MA> it in today or tomorrow. The guy who did it is a MA> friend of ours, and when he found out what Richard MA> wanted, he refused to charge him for it! So I feel MA> twice blessed. What a SWEETHEART! (I'm having trouble typing through the tears in my eyes.) MA> Ask Mrs. B. what she thinks this cavesson is doing for MA> the horse and let me know. I'd really be interested MA> to see what she has to say. Will do. --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200037 Date: 12/31/96 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 09:02pm \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 1 times) Subj: Test MA> to you! VN :> Hey - the HORSE ILLUSTRATED that I picked up yesterday VN :>at PetsMart has a bit on arthritis in horses - lemme quote VN :>a paragraph: MA> Got it, read it! Think I could sprinkle some Flex-Free over my eaties? VN :> It's by BIOCHEM and is called GLUCOSAMINE COMPLEX. MA> Hmmmm...where did you get it? VN :> The bottle says that it is produced by Country Life in VN :>Hauppauge, New York. I pay about $15 for 50 and take at MA> Oh duh! MA> I'll keep an eye out for it. Do you get it at the drug MA> store, or a natural food store or what? Mrs. Braswell gets it for me at a health food store - she says they special order it for her. Do you need an address? --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200038 Date: 01/01/97 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 05:57am \/To: DEBBY TAYLOR (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Smokey's BOOTS? DT> I just got on Smokey and rode. I asked for a trot DT> and he pretended that I said canter but other than that he was good. I DT> couldn't just let him go since he wan't wearing his boots and he wasn't DT> properly warmed up yet. He has a problem with lameness sometimes, DT> especially in the winter, so I have to be a little careful. Smokey wears BOOTS? Are these like Easyboots? OR maybe Tony Lamas? --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200039 Date: 01/01/97 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 05:59am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Malla -> Nope.. 83 mare I think. MM> Ahhh, ok well Malla is a 86 model. A 1986 Fjord? (GD&R) --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200040 Date: 01/01/97 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 06:00am \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: colics BK> BTW have you talked to your vet about keeping Dypiron BK> or something around the house in case of emergency?? #1 - Dypiron - is that pronounced like "diaper on"? ;) #2 - When Spot colicked a few months ago, Lori gave her a shot of bute. When the vet got there, he was LIVID! He said that the bute could mask symptoms and he would have a rougher time diagnosing the cause until the bute wore off. He said it could have been a VERY BAD MOVE...it's something that Lori does all the time as her Thoroughbred mare seems to colic every few weeks while she is in foal! (Yes, of course, Lori breeds her every year anyway. ;( ) What would the dypiron do? --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200041 Date: 01/01/97 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 06:05am \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: salt MA> And adding about a tsp. of regular table salt to each MA> feed helps keep their water intake up. That's usually MA> what the problem is with weather-related colics. Is a TEASPOON enough? For a 1000 lb. horse? Mrs. B claims that here, in Arizona, to keep the horses' salt intake up, we should feed a few teaspoons of loose table salt DAILY. I have to admit it's not something I do, partly as I don't feed them (Lori does) and partly as I never see that they have a problem with getting enough salt. They have two blocks, a mineral block and a salt block in their pens, and both get a lot of use. The only one I worry about is Dub, who sometimes is low on electrolytes - but the vets assure me that salt won't fix that, I just go over to Turf Paradise and get some race horse electrolytes. --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212)