--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200002 Date: 12/28/96 From: DEBBY TAYLOR Time: 10:03pm \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Test? -> We were treading water again this morning.. rained hard from about -> 6:30 to about 11ish. Are you going to get the rain we are suppose to get starting tonight? They are predicting over 5", can you believe, and the rivers are almost full and the lakes are filling faster than they can let it out. They are issuing sandbags in San Jose. It hasn't dried out from the last storm. I went out and rode quick between storms today. I had planned on giving Smokey a nice long workout but had to change my plans. He was missing a shoe so I rode at a walk on the sand. I don't know when the farrier will be able to get to him with all the storms. He doesn't work in the rain and I don't blame him. Debby --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: The Knights End BBS (1:208/606) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200003 Date: 12/27/96 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 06:08am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: riding >-> Forever, Mike ....... Mr X will be a 6 yr old in anuary > -- >-> can you believe it??? That makes Tuffy 9 or 10 (not too sure how old he w > as >-> when we got him -- they said 5 but I don't believe he was quite that old - >-> we've now had him 6 years and 3 months) and Shamazon is a "older woman" of >-> 22 yrs old (but don't tell HER that -- SHE thinks she's a 5 yr old >-> ). > Oh my... I remember when you first got Tuffy way back > then! Come to think of > it, it was about the same time that we got Malla. And Tuffy was so wild ...... I was asking advise as to what to do with him . --- * Origin: "Baby" - Gone But NOT Forgotten!! (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200004 Date: 12/27/96 From: JEAN PROPHET Time: 06:09am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Jean's address >-> > I have her as 1:371/33 here. >-> That's me ...... 371/33 (the 933 number is my private node number I have > ). > Well i knew /33 was right, I poll you for mail 3 times > a week at that one! Hehehehehehe ......... you sure do ;-) --- * Origin: "Baby" - Gone But NOT Forgotten!! (1:371/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200005 Date: 12/27/96 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 04:33pm \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Merry Christmas! MM :> Of all of the members here I have only ever met Jean in MM :>person. I am going MM :>to try and change that soon though. I am going to be MM :>meeting Bob in January. MM :>I am also planning on meeting Vicki then too. She just MM :>doesn't know it yet! No kidding! But my advice is to not try to meet them both in the same trip...remember we tried last year and Richard got the flu! (VBG). When are you going? This is neat! And where are you going?? Happy New Year! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200006 Date: 12/28/96 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 09:35am \/To: VICKI NICHOLS (Read 1 times) Subj: Tush! VN :> You're SO NICE! I woulda kept it and used it myself! VN :>I'm gonna grab mine and get the manufacturer's name and VN :>address off it for you all! :) VN :>I hope it's not just a local thing, although there probably VN :>arent a LOT of cowboys in Massachusetts. That would be great! Fiddle's tail is starting to grow back in from all the rubbing she did this summer. Cowboys? Actually there are a few who THINK they're cowboys (g). Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200007 Date: 12/28/96 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 09:44am \/To: VICKI NICHOLS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Cart/Carriage Rides?? VN :>owner ended up selling her Princess for *$800* (gasp!) and VN :>somehow she ended up getting Princess for free as she made VN :>$800 profit off what he wanted for another of his stolen VN :>horses that she sold here for him. I was very surprised Not a bad deal! Always nice to hear about an x-racehorse going to a good home and not to the killers. Lots and lots of them around here. Trained right and in the right hands, they make great horses. Fiddle's mom was one of these, although she didn't quite fit the bill of "great horse". She had a 'tude a mile wide, which occasionally shows up in her daughter (g). VN :> Getting back to the subject (finally) - it's a "French VN :>cavesson." I asked Mrs. B. what that meant as I had to VN :>special order it as the harness is black - it just means VN :>it's skinny and plain. Looks just like the cavessons on my VN :>plain vanilla hunt bridles except it's black. Sounds like just a plain cavesson to me. That wouldn't have the effect of the others that I mentioned, although if you buckle it tight, it will put some pressure on her upper nose. Not quite sure why you're getting the response you're getting. You don't buckle it OVER the cheek pieces, do you? VN :> Okay, that explains it - she HAS to keep her mouth VN :>closed...she she gets ON the bit, right? If it was Dub, he Actuallyl, getting on the bit doesn't really mean that. Getting on the bit is where the horse accepts the bit, rounds itself, and goes with impulsion from behind. You can do all you want with a horse's mouth to keep their head in the right position, but if your horse isn't doing the rest, he's not "on the bit". Many people believe that just because they've solved the "mouth" problem, they've done the whole job. However, I'm sure Mrs. B. knows the difference (g)! VN :>would find still another way to evade it, I think. I'm so VN :>accustomed to dealing with a DIFFICULT horse that when I VN :>work with one that ISN'T, I don't know how to do it! :) I have the same problem. One of the biggest things I had to learn to overcome (and am still learning!), is to let Fiddle just go straight and relaxed while she's being trained to the basic gaits. I was always adjusting my leg, seat, etc. to get Thistle to do what she already knew how to do, and I have to work really hard to stay quiet in the saddle with Fid. Thistle was an amazing horse, but she did come with particular problems that required a particular style of riding...not one you'd want to use with a green horse. BTW, my husband, RICHARD the BIG HEART, had a headstone made for me for Christmas for Thistle's grave. It's beautiful, pink granite with ahorsehead and Thistle's name on it. We're going to lay it flush with the ground so the grass will grow around it and we can just mow over it. We're having somewhat of a thaw here this week, so I hope we can get it in today or tomorrow. The guy who did it is a friend of ours, and when he found out what Richard wanted, he refused to charge him for it! So I feel twice blessed. Ask Mrs. B. what she thinks this cavesson is doing for the horse and let me know. I'd really be interested to see what she has to say. Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200008 Date: 12/28/96 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 09:48am \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: riding BK :>Yeow! TIme to get serious with her this year. Well, actually, with Arabs this would be just about the right time. Remember, they grow slower than the other breeds, and we didn't want to overtax those little Arab legs (g). She's funny...she lets you know when she's ready to move up to something a little more complex. Right now we're dealing with a rooting at the bit problem...argghhh! She's in a plain, fat, loose ring snaffle, and I think I'll change to a French snaffle as she seemed to like the smaller one I had a while back. Just got to come up with the money to get the next size up! I don't think she's doing this to be bad or anything, but I do think there's something about this snaffle she doesn't like. Hmmmm.....might be time to have her teeth checked again too, although I had them done last spring. Cripes! It's always something (g). Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200009 Date: 12/28/96 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 09:48am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: riding MM :>No Way!!! MM :>Geeezzzee Meg, How long have we been chatting back and MM :>forth in this echo MM :>anyway? Amazing isn't it! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200010 Date: 12/28/96 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 09:52am \/To: VICKI NICHOLS (Read 1 times) Subj: Test VN :> I was wondering if you'd made your reservations yet - VN :>it will be 71 today,72 Christmas Day, and 74 on Saturday. VN :>Flip side - this has been a DRY winter,both here and up VN :>north, and we will be relying on Salt River Project's VN :>drought control measures to keep us in water this summer. Not this year, Vic. Got plans for a family reunion in Barbados again this year. That ought to just about empty out every penny we have for the next year or two (g). Can't wait though! Just having all my kids on one place at one time will be worth it! We've had the wettest year on record this year...I'll ship some mud to you! VN :> Hey - the HORSE ILLUSTRATED that I picked up yesterday VN :>at PetsMart has a bit on arthritis in horses - lemme quote VN :>a paragraph: Got it, read it! Think I could sprinkle some Flex-Free over my Wheaties? VN :> It's by BIOCHEM and is called GLUCOSAMINE COMPLEX. Hmmmm...where did you get it? VN :> The bottle says that it is produced by Country Life in VN :>Hauppauge, New York. I pay about $15 for 50 and take at Oh duh! I'll keep an eye out for it. Do you get it at the drug store, or a natural food store or what? Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: E1200011 Date: 12/28/96 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 09:56am \/To: BOB KOHL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Arenas BK :>Ahh goes in with the feed.. not water. :) What kind of electrolytes do you use? I use the orange kind (can't think of the name right now...argghhh!) that goes in their water. Now, if you feed the stuff that's different. My premise was, though, that if you add salt to their feed, they'll drink more water, and it's the water that helps prevent the colics in changeable weather. If that's your only need (not the extra that the electrolytes provide) then salt is a whole lot cheaper! Hey, is Mike really coming out there!!! Lucky dog! Still can't believe we didn't make it out there last spring. Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173)