--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: DGS00004 Date: 12/21/96 From: BOB KOHL Time: 03:25am \/To: DEBBY TAYLOR (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Winter? > -> My Down jacket has long since died (my old heavy duty clmibing > -> jacket).. I just layer up and down as needed. There were a couple of > -> days a week ago where I wish I'd had my LJ's.. > I still haven't found my coat. I'll admit though I haven't been looking > real hard. I find it hard to get real serious about finding a coat when > I'm running around in either a sweatshirt or just long sleeves. Well last night it hit mid 30's late last night, If I'd known I would have put the hood on CJ. > This weather is great once the fog burns off. If the whole winter stays > like this I would be really happy. Well CJ stays sounder in warmer weather.. so it's my preference sinec I truly love riding her more then most horses. > -> Well I watch this when I ride.. sadly all the horses are going to > -> need a decent ride because they're standing in their stalls.. we > -> won't dry out until the end of the week/weekend with all the rain > -> we've had. > After that last storm all the horses are really fresh. Dave lunged Diva > before he rode her to get some of the sillines out and to get her to pay > attention to him. Well CJ got so silly on the lunge line that she's been sore all week. > properly warmed up yet. He has a problem with lameness sometimes, > especially in the winter, so I have to be a little careful. Bingo.. been there done that. :( > We had some minor flooding in the area but no roads closed or anything. > One of the bridges that I cross frequently had a little damage and they > are reinforcing it, but it wasn't bad enough to close it and they will > be done with it by Wednesday. I remember all the bridges that were washed out and damaged during the storms 15 or so years ago.. the high desert really got clobbered. That's when Tippi Hedrin's compound got washed away and some of the big cats got loose.. BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: DGS00005 Date: 12/21/96 From: BOB KOHL Time: 03:26am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: riding > -> > -> Well then...how about 30 something + something more? :) > -> > -> > or 30 something + something more + something more! ;-) > -> > -> Hmmmm low blow May.. ;) > ;-) > Well i am also there so I guess that makes me able to throw a few stones > that way. ;-) Sell the glass house..;) BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: DGS00006 Date: 12/21/96 From: BOB KOHL Time: 03:26am \/To: MIKE MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Cart/Carriage Rides?? > -> > -> What's that about cracks in my seat? > -> > -> > Sounds like a design flaw to me! > -> > -> Or low riding jeans.. ;) > Yeah that would do it too I guess. Yep.. ;) BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: DGS00007 Date: 12/21/96 From: MEG ALFONI Time: 09:34am \/To: VICKI NICHOLS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Cart/Carriage Rides?? VN :> Hey, I feel really stupid - I have been letting a lady VN :>from HORSES HELP (the local therapeutic riding place) drive VN :>Spot - it was AWESOME, she got TEARS IN HER EYES because How you can say you're stupid and that you're helping out with HORSES HELP in the same sentence is beyond me! Nice thing you're doing, Vic! VN :> My question - HOW IN THE HECK? I mean, what does the VN :>cavesson have to do with that? She was all strung out, VN :>neck-wise, like many of the hunter jumpers I see in the VN :>show rings. I put the cavesson on her and within 2 minutes VN :>she was back on the bit where she belonged. I don't think What type of cavesson is it? Flash, figure 8? Plain. Gotta know that before I can answer your questions! My impression is that it's a flash or figure 8 from Spot's response. Both will keep the horse from evading the bit, although the F8 probably does it more impressively! They both put pressure on the sensitive area just above the nose, as well as not allowing the horse as much or no freedom to open her mouth to evade the bit. And what are you doing driving this horse without even a plain cavesson in the first place! (g). PS: Send me Mrs. Braswell! Wish I could have met her when I was over there! Meg --- * Origin: Elizabeth's Revenge (1:330/173) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: DGS00008 Date: 12/22/96 From: BOB KOHL Time: 02:10am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: HEY! My best to all for this season.. A Merry Xmas and a happy healthy new year for all... Nope.. no cards or pics this year.. not in the budget! BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: DGS00009 Date: 12/22/96 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 08:44am \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Cart/Carriage Rides?? VN :> My question - HOW IN THE HECK? I mean, what does the VN :>cavesson have to do with that? She was all strung out, VN :>neck-wise, like many of the hunter jumpers I see in the VN :>show rings. I put the cavesson on her and within 2 minutes VN :>she was back on the bit where she belonged. I don't think MA> What type of cavesson is it? Flash, figure 8? Plain. Gotta know that MA> before I can answer your questions! My impression is Okay, I should warn you that flash cavessons are illegal in the show ring here; Mrs. Braswell will only let you use one if it is a NECESSITY. One of her other students. Jennifer, boards at a pricey stable 1/2 mile from here and sometimes we ride together or take lessons together...I also haul her horse to shows as her Honda Civic just can't handle my trailer. (Maybe she needs a Brenderup?) Anyway, Jennifer's strikingly beautiful mare was a race horse less than a year ago, and for reasons I don't know because I haven't asked she requires a flash. The good news is that the judge at the last show didn't know any better and gave her FIRST PLACE in English Pleasure anyway. The benefit of living in an area where 99% of the judges specialize in Western. I wish you could see this mare move - her registered name is Brutus something -Mrs. B. and Jennifer renamed her "Princess Lightfoot" - she truly seems to dance in the air. I hope it doesn't change when they get some weight on her. And I take back everything I have ever said or thought about rehabilitating former race horses...although the best thing that ever happened to Princess was for her to bow a tendon and get her retired from the track. She was in layup for awhile to recover from the injury when a trainer STOLE her and several other horses from California and brought them to Arizona. Jennifer was just getting over a broken heart because the Appaloosa she had bought was drugged when she bought him; after having him a few weeks it became obvious that the lameness that had set in was serious, permanent, and there when she bought him but cleverly masked by drugs. She gave him back to the seller, and found Princess. I'm not clear on the details but something tipped her off that all was not aboveboard; she contacted the REAL owner through the Jockey Club and he told her that the horse she bought and the others she had looked at were stolen...she was instrumental in getting the trainer arrested. The owner ended up selling her Princess for *$800* (gasp!) and somehow she ended up getting Princess for free as she made $800 profit off what he wanted for another of his stolen horses that she sold here for him. I was very surprised as, #1, $800 sounds like killer pricing to me and #2, horses cost 2 to 3 times as much in California as they do here. I know two Paso breeders who regularly haul horses there to sell. To me, the moral of the story is that Princess BELONGED to Jennifer, that this was MEANT to ! MA> that it's a flash or figure 8 from Spot's response. Getting back to the subject (finally) - it's a "French cavesson." I asked Mrs. B. what that meant as I had to special order it as the harness is black - it just means it's skinny and plain. Looks just like the cavessons on my plain vanilla hunt bridles except it's black. MA> Both will keep the horse from evading the bit, MA> although the F8 probably does it more impressively! MA> They both put pressure on the sensitive area just MA> above the nose, as well as not allowing the horse as MA> much or no freedom to open her mouth to evade the bit. Okay, that explains it - she HAS to keep her mouth closed...she she gets ON the bit, right? If it was Dub, he would find still another way to evade it, I think. I'm so accustomed to dealing with a DIFFICULT horse that when I work with one that ISN'T, I don't know how to do it! :) MA> And what are you doing driving this horse without even MA> a plain cavesson in the first place! (g). Well...hold on...I don't use an overcheck, either. She normally doesn't need it. Check those photos you took driving her - did I have the cavesson on her then? DID YOU SAY ANYTHING TO ME ABOUT IT BEING MISSING? (grin) MA> PS: Send me Mrs. Braswell! Wish I could have met her MA> when I was over there! Nope - you KNOW I'm not a selfish person - but she STAYS HERE! :) --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: DGS00010 Date: 12/22/96 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 09:03am \/To: MARIANNE RYAN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Hay, riders! BK>week it's been.. to many battles.. :/. MR> MR> Just thought I would stop to drop you a line. Have a question for you, MR> does strange weather tend to make livestock, Horses and goats be moody MR> when the weather keeps going from rain, to cold to dry and cold or dry MR> and warm. Noticed that the horses would walk away from me last time I MR> was at my boyfriends mom's, I didn't know if it was just the weather or MR> if they happened to be walking away from me because I was handling some MR> exotic animals prior to going out there. Just curious. MR> MR> Anyways I know that the people in the clinic where I work patients MR> mostly have been in a terrible mood and have ruined my day the last MR> couple of days so I can relate to your opening statement. Can it be Seasonal Affective Disorder? When they say people get crabby from not enough SUNLIGHT? Abbreviated SAD in the literature. --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: DGS00011 Date: 12/22/96 From: VICKI NICHOLS Time: 09:04am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Jean's address Hey, I tried to send Netmail to Jean about some photos she sent - it came up "Kuntry Kupboard" and it tried and tried to send it alll night but gave up -no carrier. Is her BBS down? I have 1:371/933, or 941-458-9571 for the number. --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: ElseWhere (1:114/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: DGT00000 Date: 12/23/96 From: BOB KOHL Time: 01:24am \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Arenas > BK :>Fit a Bran Mash into the schedule whenever the weather > BK :>changes or start them on a Physllium Seed husk routine. It > BK :>helps keep the guyts going at all times. > And adding about a tsp. of regular table salt to each feed helps keep > their water intake up. That's usually what the problem is with > weather-related colics. I use a commercial electrolite mix, with a varing touch of Vit C. > BK :>BTW have you talked to your vet about keeping Dypiron or > BK :>something around the house in case of emergency?? > I think they're taking that stuff off the market. It's meant only for > equine use, but cattle people have been using it and it's showing up in > meat. Argghhhh!! Yep... I know that.. but while it's still possible, it's nice to have a bottle of that stuff around, after that it's Bute or Banamine. > BK :>Tush has had a saddle on.. ;) > Whoopeee!! She's a big girl now! How'd she do? About one second of concern.. and then back to a cross tie she was playing with.. :) > BK :>Not cinching yet.. > That makes sense! Well I cinch her with the syringle.. and I've been working it tighter and tighter.. getting almost to the point where it would equal a cinched saddle. BTW that saddle is no lightweight.. it's about 45 lbs.. but stil a tad big on her.. ;) BK --- DB A3000sl/001347 * Origin: * Conniption BBS * one fit at a time (1:102/861) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 243 HORSES Ref: DGT00001 Date: 12/23/96 From: BOB KOHL Time: 01:25am \/To: MEG ALFONI (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: riding > MM :>Ahhh, ok well Malla is a 86 model. > Just to let you know how fast time really flies....Fiddle will be 5 this > year! Yeow! TIme to get serious with her this year. 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