--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 241 LINUX Ref: F4200088 Date: 03/27/98 From: WILLIAM MCBRINE Time: 03:09pm \/To: WILLIE MCKEMIE (Read 4 times) Subj: html tools -=> Willie McKemie wrote to Maurice Kinal <=- WM> I've been disappointed in the features provided by both DRDOS's WM> multi-tasker and Linux's. I miss the scaleable [text] windows as well WM> as the keyboard control over cutting and pasting between windows. Such things haven't been developed much for Linux because most people who want a windowing interface just use X. And of course, there's always "screen" -- it lacks windows, but it does provide keyboard cut-and-paste. However, it *could* be done. When I installed NetBSD, I found that it came with a split-screen (text) program called (I think) "window"; I haven't really looked at it, but I'm sure it could be ported to Linux if it hasn't already been. ... Careful. We don't want to learn from this. --- * Origin: * My Place BBS * Bowie, Md USA * V.34 * (301)805-1602 * 1:109/570) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 241 LINUX Ref: F4200089 Date: 03/27/98 From: JOHN BURTON Time: 05:20pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: RedHat OS 851402761@f4115.n282.z1.ftn> On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Mark Million wrote: > > What's mc? No anachronyms please. > "Midnight Commander"... No well-organized Linux box is without it... --==jb==-- ========================================================================== sandbox.telepath.com john burton (405)737-9540 The SANDBOX ** MultiLine linux 1:147/34@fidonet MidWest City, Oklahoma ========================================================================== --- ifmail v.2.12-tx8.6 * Origin: The SANDBOX * MidWest City OK * (405)737-9540 (1:147/34@fidonet) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 241 LINUX Ref: F4200090 Date: 03/24/98 From: JIM BALCOM Time: 09:08pm \/To: MAURICE KINAL (Read 4 times) Subj: html tools Maurice Kinal at 1:351/255 wrote in a message to Josh Rollyson on 26 Mar 1998 at 23:40: MK> Someone actually paid you to delete Windows??? How can I MK> get a job like this? Talk about job satisfaction. I used to have a VERY nice ASCII graphic that George VanDerVoort did. It got lost when I switched from DOS to Linux. I hope that you are familiar with George's ASCII art. It's tremendous! He had a VERY nice one about ROTFLMAO! Please imagine his tremendous art, and then imagine me actually doing it! ++ Jim ++ ... One learns to itch where one can scratch --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#2) * Origin: Bottomless Pit - balcomj@idkent.com - Alexandria, VA (1:109/334) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 241 LINUX Ref: F4200091 Date: 03/24/98 From: JIM BALCOM Time: 09:13pm \/To: KIRK LANG (Read 4 times) Subj: Unix power? Kirk Lang at 1:356/4 wrote in a message to Tom Jehaes on 25 Mar 1998 at :27: TJ> around. Could someone give me some examples of the power of Unix. TJ> I mean real examples, not the usual glorifying that doesn't mean TJ> anything. KL> I was using a Windows 95 based e-mail server, and it had to KL> rebooted about once a week. If it wasn't, the system slowed KL> way down, and often times didn't work properly. You lie! I've been suckered into having three different machines running Windows 95. My laptop has to be re-booted at least every 18 hours, or it sits there forever fornicating with the hard drive. The other two can go for 24-36 hours before they drag down so damned slow, and start offering up various errors (either real, or imagined) I can't keep Win95 up for more than 2 days! KL> Unix can run for months at a time unattended... My linux ran for 110 days the last time. I re-booted because the trackball broke, I put on a new one, and it didn't seem to like that hardware change in mid-stream. Gawd! I wish these software developers would learn about Linux and port their software over to it so I won't have to run Gates's crap! ++ Jim ++ ... It is now pitch dark. If you proceed, you will likely fall into a pit --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#2) * Origin: Bottomless Pit - balcomj@idkent.com - Alexandria, VA (1:109/334) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 241 LINUX Ref: F4200092 Date: 03/28/98 From: BRUCE KINGSBURY Time: 02:06pm \/To: TREVOR COOK (Read 4 times) Subj: firewalling problems TC> I'm currently running a small LAN with the linux box as the internet TC> gateway. I'm masquerading with ipfwadm. TC> Everything works just fine except that I'm having trouble with TC> MicroSoft NetMeeting on the '95 machine. I can call up other people TC> and transmit audio without any problems. but I can't receive audio TC> (embarassing !). TC> I suspect that it may have something to do with the way I've set up TC> ipfwadm, but I can't work out where I'm going wrong as all other apps TC> work OK. It's a problem with the way ipmasq works; when you open a TCP 'connection' from your '95 machine, the linux box keeps track of all the packets associated with that 'connection' and can forward/rewrite them appropriately. Things like iphone, cu-seeme, and (presumably) NetMeeting use a connectionless (UDP) protocol; - the Linux box can easily figure out what to do with the outbound packets but it won't recognise the inbound ones as being part of the same connection, so it doesn't know to forward them to the '95 box. There's a few programs around which try to figure out where the UDP packets are supposed to go.. try searching for 'autofw' is one I've seen. ~~~ ReneWave v2.00 [NR] --- Renegade v96-143a dos * Origin: (3:774/950) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 241 LINUX Ref: F4200093 Date: 03/27/98 From: MIKE GLASSPOOL Time: 11:57pm \/To: BRYAN SCHWARTZ (Read 4 times) Subj: multiple OS You, 'Bryan...' have been graced with a reply from the humble Mike! BS> 1) which OS should i set up first? I assume it should be DOS, but BS> then i would have to use the DOS FDISK to set up the HD. Would i BS> just set up a couple hundred megs for DOS and leave the rest blank? I would suggest loading dos, then OS/2, then Linux.. because.. you allocate a certain amount of HD space to dos (leave the rest blank) install it, then do the same for OS/2 and install it.. then install Linux, Linux will allow you to make the partitions on your disk, and set Lilo to boot any of the three, make sure you put the one you want to boot to by default on the first partition. The rest will have to be loaded by you typing in the command for it. Each OS will recognize the other OS's partitions as either that OS's partition or an unknown partition. BS> And a very important question. How do i get around the 4 Primary BS> bootable partition limit? Is a hard drive permanently limited to BS> only 4 bootable OS ? Will i have to boot from a floppy if i want BS> more? Any suggestions would be welcome! This is the first time BS> i've tried this. I used extended partitions for DOS and Linux.. my system is as such: 1 - 1.0 gig (Win '95 Partition, Primary DOS) 2 - 1.0 gig (BBS Partion, Extended, Logical DOS) 3 - 500 meg (Linux / Partition, Primary Linux) 4 - 1.0 gig (Linux, Extended Linux Partition) 5 - 500 meg (Linux /usr Partition, Logical Linux) 6 - 400 meg (Linux /etc Partition, Logical Linux) 7 - 100 meg (Linux /home Partition, Logical Linux) But of course, that's just me --- * Origin: The All Nighter BBS 613-841-8611 (1:163/476) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 241 LINUX Ref: F4200094 Date: 03/26/98 From: LUIZ LIMA Time: 12:07pm \/To: JOHN DONOHUE (Read 4 times) Subj: FAT32 JD> Saw a few messages here on FAT32 recently. If you haven't already been JD> there, you might want to take a look at JD> http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html Looks like it'll come on the next Kernel anyway... []'s, Luiz. --- DBSMail V2.10d [C8C9D6EE] * Origin: Image Link - Internet/BBS - +55-21-525-2000 (4:802/39) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 241 LINUX Ref: F4200095 Date: 03/27/98 From: DENNIS CARR Time: 12:21pm \/To: MARK MILLION (Read 4 times) Subj: RedHat OS -=> Quoting Mark Million to All <=- MM> I tried to install Linux RedHat on my HD yesterday. All went fine MM> untill I chose the packages I wanted to install. I picked like MM> "everything" and it turned out to be more than the available Disk MM> Space. I did not know that when I picked them. I did not see any help MM> there. It ran out of room and then gave up and told me to Reboot. Now MM> I have a bunch of space I can't access on my HD. Yeouch! MM> I can't do anything with Fdisk or Fips. I can't figure it out? I can't MM> use the dosutils autoboot either. All of a sudden the Autoboot.bat will MM> not work. I am thinking that I have to reformat and start over. that MM> means reinstalling DOS and trying again to install Linux RedHat. My MM> box had no boot floppies, only CDRoms. Mark, if you can't get there from here, if you can get your hands on some Slackware boot and root disks, use these to bomb out your Linux drive. ... Any computer equipment, when running correctly, is obsolete. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Sunset Grill (1:103/402) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 241 LINUX Ref: F4200096 Date: 03/27/98 From: LAWRENCE LUCIER Time: 09:24pm \/To: BRYAN SCHWARTZ (Read 4 times) Subj: multiple OS Bryan Schwartz @ 1:348/206 wrote on 03-15-98 08:21 about *multiple OS* BS> I'm trying to set up my hard drive to take 3 OS, Red Hat linux, OS/2 v4, and PC DOS 6.0. I have BS> the general idea of what has to be done, and i have read the chapters in Running Linux about BS> partitioning etc, but it dosn't say: 1) which OS should i set up first? I assume it should be DOS, Seeing as how you are running OS/2, I would suggest you use OS/2's Boot Manger to handle booting into each OS (which IMHO, is a lot easier and more reliable than using LILO but that's just my personal preference). You can use either OS/2's installation program or your OS/2 emergency disks to partition the drive with OS/2's Fdisk and add the Boot Manager at that time. BS> but then i would have to use the DOS FDISK to set up the HD. You can do it this way but if I were doing it, I would just go with OS/2's Fdisk.........you can use it to set up a DOS partition at the same time as setting up the OS/2 partition and also leaving space for the linux(s) partitions. Basic instructions: Install OS/2 (and also set up DOS partition; the DOS partition should be set up as the first partition on the harddrive!) Install DOS and then run OS/2's FDisk to add the DOS partition to Boot Manager. Also set pertinent options at this time. Once you have the DOS and OS/2 OS's installed, then you can add the Linux partitions using Linux's Fdisk during the installation proceedure. During the LILO installation, don't install it so that LILO is written to the MBR but rather have it installed to the primary linux boot partition. Once you have completed the Linux installation, boot up OS/2's Fdisk again and add the primary Linux partition to the Boot Manager menu. For more reading on this subject grab some copies of the following HOWTO's: Linux+DOS+Win95+OS2 mini-HOWTO (part 1/1) Linux DOS to Linux HOWTO (part 1/1) --- Sqed/32 1.14/r15155 * Origin: T-Shirts 'N Genes BBS - (250) 748-3408 v32b v42b XA CM (1:340/204) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 241 LINUX Ref: F4200097 Date: 03/28/98 From: MAURICE KINAL Time: 06:19am \/To: JIM BALCOM (Read 4 times) Subj: html tools 24 Mar 98 21:08, Jim Balcom wrote to Maurice Kinal: MK>> Someone actually paid you to delete Windows??? How can I MK>> get a job like this? Talk about job satisfaction. JB> I used to have a VERY nice ASCII graphic that George VanDerVoort did. JB> It got lost when I switched from DOS to Linux. JB> I hope that you are familiar with George's ASCII art. It's JB> tremendous! He had a VERY nice one about ROTFLMAO! Please imagine his JB> tremendous art, and then imagine me actually doing it! Sorry but no I am not familiar with it. I am always impressed with what people can do with a couple of characters, some time on their hands, and an excess of talent. Actually I am more impressed with ASCII artwork than I am with GIF's and the sort. Is their a site where his artwork can be obtained? --- Msged 4.10 * Origin: ZOLTAN -> Ladysmith, BC (250) 245-7168 (1:351/255)