---------------------------------------------------------------- | Official Fido APOGEE Conference Rules - Updated Apr 2nd, 1997 | ---------------------------------------------------------------- Conference Echotag: APOGEE Moderator: Joe Siegler, who can be reached via Netmail at 1:124/9006, or via Internet E-Mail at joe.siegler@apogee1.com This conference exists for the purpose of providing support for Apogee Software, Ltd, the shareware game publisher. Apogee's two divisions, 3D Realms Etertainment and Pinball Wizards are valid discussions here, too. Product support, bug reports, product announcements, and much more will be posted/talked about in this conference. This conference also serves as the discussion conference for the Apogee FDN, which is carried on the Fido Filebone. If you are interested in getting the Apogee FDN on your BBS, grab yourself a copy of FILEBONE.NA; it will have information on how to contact a Filebone representative. Failing that, you can ask your local Fido administration on what their policy is regarding obtaining Filebone files. Note: The following are not Apogee/3DR/PW games and are not valid topics of discussion in this Conference: Doom, Doom II, Heretic, Hexen, Strife, Quake, Descent, Witchhaven, Tekwar, Powerslave, Blood. The last four can be peripherally talked about, as they o use our technology, but direct threads on them are off-topic. If you wish to talk about these games directly, please use the GAMING Fidonet Conference. Conference Rules ================ * No Personal Attacks or insults Please, don't go around insulting someone just because you don't agree with them. If you feel you must argue with someone, argue the topic, don't insult someone. Remember, that just because someone likes something you don't, it's no reason to insult them. * No Vulgar Language This is a family network, so keep the dirty language out of the essages. Also, masking part of a word with other characters does not make it acceptable material for posting. * Do not behave in a disruptive fashion * No "TEST" messages Please do not use this conference for "test" messages, saying "This is a test, let me know if you get this". There are other conferences for that, you don't need this one to do it in. If you see one of these, DO NOT reply to them; as it's a further waste of bandwith. * Don't over-quote Don't quote a whole bunch of text just to add something like "I agree", or an emoticon. Fido echomail has to be paid for by a lot of people, nd only quoting the section you must in order to get your point across will be appreciated by a far lot more people than you think. Please do not quote entire messages, with origin, tear, taglines. In other words, say more than you repeat. * Encryption Encryption, for any reason, is prohibited in this conference. This also includes UUENCODED messages. Please contact the moderator in Netmail first before posting UUENCODED messages/files. The moderator reserves the right to post uuencoded messages here, but if you want to, you MUST check via Netmail first. * Language English is the only language approved for use in this conference. ainly because the Apogee reps in this conference don't speak/read any other language, and we cannot answer foreign language messages. * Stay on-topic All messages must ahere to the topic of the conference. This means hat your messages must deal with Apogee Software. This doesn't mean that they have to be 100% about Apogee. Related topics such as comparing Apogee's Rise of the Triad features to some feature in id's Doom is OK. However, something like saying "How do I get by level 6 in Doom" is not ok. Please try and keep messages from non Apogee games to a minimum. Several people carry this base solely for the Apogee product info, and strive to keep it related to Apogee. * Mind the Moderator There seems to be a trend these days to just wildly disregard topics, and just say whatever you want. Please, try and keep on topic here, and if you do go off topic, you'll get a message from the Moderator. oderator messages are usually sent via Fido Netmail, accompanied by a message in the conference saying that you have Netmail coming. The Moderator doesn't like taking restrictive action against people, since it's a big pain in the butt to do things like that, but that type of action will be taken if you go wildly off-topic, and do not respect the wishes of the onference moderator. * Gating the conference Permission is not granted to gate this conference anywhere without rior knowledge of the Moderator. If you are interested in gating this somewhere, please drop the moderator a line via netmail. There are no "free speech" and no "1st amendment rights" in Fidonet. If you don't believe this, grab yourself a copy of POLICY4. POLICY4 is the current official rules and regulations of Fidonet. I recommend you read it, since it contains much information that can avoid hassles and problems with Fidonet. Since this is Fido Echomail, remember that there are no provisions for rivate messages in this (or any other) conference. If you want to send a private message to someone, you must use a seperate conference called "Netmail". If you do not know what this is, ask your local SysOp for more information on sending and receiving Fido Netmail. That's pretty much it. If you have any questions or problems, send me some Netmail. Otherwise, sit back and enjoy meeting all sorts of interesting and nice people. And above all, have fun. Joseph M. Siegler Fidonet APOGEE Conference Moderator --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0074 * Origin: Apogee Software - Garland, TX - 972-271-5410 (1:124/9006) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 240 APOGEE GAMES Ref: F2B00002 Date: 02/06/98 From: JACK FARNSWORTH Time: 10:32pm \/To: JOE SIEGLER (Read 0 times) Subj: Duke for Nintendo Joe (or anyone), My son has a friend who said he has Duke Nukem 1, 2, 3, and 4 for his Nintendo 64. I take this to mean the episodes 1 through 4 in the Atomic Edition, but he might mean the original Duke, Duke II, and Duke3d? Were those released for Nintendo systems? Just curious. - Jack Farnsworth --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The Gloryroad BBS - Tillicum, WA - 1-253-584-4090 (1:138/338) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 240 APOGEE GAMES Ref: F2B00003 Date: 02/07/98 From: JOE SIEGLER Time: 02:16pm \/To: JACK FARNSWORTH (Read 0 times) Subj: Duke for Nintendo -> My son has a friend who said he has Duke Nukem 1, 2, 3, and 4 for is -> Nintendo 64. I take this to mean the episodes 1 through 4 in the Atomic -> Edition, but he might mean the original Duke, Duke II, and Duke3d? Were -> those He probably means that it's Episodes 1-4 of Duke Nukem 3D. No, the first two Duke games weren't ported to anything. Joe --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0074 * Origin: Apogee Software - Garland, TX - 972-271-5410 (1:124/9006) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 240 APOGEE GAMES Ref: F2C00000 Date: 02/07/98 From: JONATHAN FINGAS Time: 09:26pm \/To: LEE JACKSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Sound cards & speakers You're quite obviously the game audiophile around here (that's your job!), so I'm wondering what you think of my new P2/300's sound setup. I've got an AWE64 Gold, and Altec-Lansing ACS-55 speakers (they're those weird, black ones with the subwoofer). From what I've heard, both are solid choices. The AWE64 (particularly the Gold version) is supposed to have exceptional clarity, while the ACS-55s have garnered some good ratings in Computer Gaming World and PC Gamer. PS Do you (or any other 3D Realmers) actually read magazines such as CGW and PCG? I imagine you do, since they often give you a straight, unbiased view of what a game is like. I'm sure you disagreed with the Shadow Warrior reviews in both magazines... --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: BitByters BBS, Rockland ON, Can. (613)446-7773 v34, (1:163/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 240 APOGEE GAMES Ref: F2D00000 Date: 02/06/98 From: PATRICK MCCULLOUGH Time: 12:25pm \/To: KEN PRETTY (Read 0 times) Subj: Number of enemies Ken Pretty wrote in a message to Jonathan Fingas: KP> true...but in reality who also carries a full arsenal of weapons KP> with them? Most gamers, like myself love to see an assorted array of KP> weaponry in a game but it's not very viable to be able to carry a KP> rocket launcher, a machine gun, a pistol, a shotgun, some grenades, KP> a few pipebombs, a lead pipe and a lightning gun with you all in one KP> backpack.. I dunno... Rambo was on last night. Oh wait: you DID say 'reality' didn't you? Drat! KP> if games were to take on the amount of realism you would like to see KP> then the most a single person could probably carry comfortably, KP> [comfortably meaning able to walk and sprint for an extended period KP> and not suffer from a crushed spine] would be a pistol, a submachine KP> gun, ammo for the latter and some pipebombs/grenades...and perhaps a KP> bat or knife for close combat.. Gee... sounds like Rise Of The Triad to me! Want the missile launcher? Well, you have to put down the flamebomb first. Hmmnn.... which to use decisions decisions :) Patrick --- timEd 1.10 * Origin: Layzner SPT-LZ-00X (1:133/1024) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 240 APOGEE GAMES Ref: F2E00000 Date: 02/09/98 From: PATRICK MCCULLOUGH Time: 01:33am \/To: JONATHAN FINGAS (Read 0 times) Subj: Sound cards & speakers Jonathan Fingas wrote in a message to Lee Jackson: JF> You're quite obviously the game audiophile around here (that's JF> your job!), so I'm wondering what you think of my new P2/300's sound JF> setup. I've got an AWE64 Gold, and Altec-Lansing ACS-55 speakers Hmmn... compare that to my relatively generic MPU-401 wavetable card plugged into a nifty Kenwood Pro-Logic amp and enough speaker power to cause hard drive glitches. Annoying overkill connected to a sorry sound card. :( JF> PS Do you (or any other 3D Realmers) actually read magazines such JF> as CGW and PCG? I imagine you do, since they often give you a JF> straight, unbiased view of what a game is like. I'm sure you JF> disagreed with the Shadow Warrior reviews in both magazines... Nobody is always happy. All part of the game game. BTB, if you're looking for a tell-it-like-it-is computer magazine, you might want to check out Boot. Lots of fun for the hardware fans, especially. Patrick --- timEd 1.10 * Origin: Layzner SPT-LZ-00X (1:133/1024) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 240 APOGEE GAMES Ref: F2E00001 Date: 02/03/98 From: CHRIS BRADLEY Time: 07:07pm \/To: JOE SIEGLER (Read 0 times) Subj: Balls Of Steel `07*** Quoting Joe Siegler from a message to Chris Bradley ***`0B JS> It's usually video related, unless you're trying to multitask. You JS> really should have BOS as the only thing running. Did you check the JS> help file? There's little else to offer beyond what's in there. Hiya Joe! Well, I'll check the help file again... I think it's my processor... When I get it updated, I'll let ya know for troubleshooting purposes... The funky video drivers that came with BOS ID'd my video card OK, but maybe there's something slightly amiss... Everything looks BEAUTIFUL, but the animation is slow... :( If I figure it out, I'll let you know... Thanx for the reply... TTYL Chris =^) --- InterEcho 1.17 * Origin: TIMENET, the best network ever! FREQ TIMENET. (1:2231/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 240 APOGEE GAMES Ref: F2E00002 Date: 02/07/98 From: DIMITRI ESCH Time: 12:30pm \/To: BAS BRINK (Read 0 times) Subj: paint shop pro Bas ik heb aan iedereen gevraagt of ze paint shop hebben maar ik kan er niet meer aan komen !!! p.s. wel aan adope photoshop Daaaaaaaagagagaagagagagagagagg --- Fmail 0.01+ * Origin: Holland RA BBS Hengelo op 28800, 074-501452 (2:283/320) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 240 APOGEE GAMES Ref: F2E00003 Date: 02/09/98 From: JITENDER SAAN Time: 02:50pm \/To: LEE JACKSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Game musicians