--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: EEK00001Date: 10/15/97 From: BILL KOPPELMANN Time: 08:24pm \/To: JEFF DUBOIS (Read 0 times) Subj: my bulging Levi jeans HI Jeff JD> A guide dog user, dressed in Levis denim, standing with JD> his/her pooch waiting for a bus. An ingrate walks past with a JD> hotdog and tries to feed the guide. The dog ignores the food JD> and the handler, conscious of what is going on nonetheless, JD> instructs the stanger not to interfere with a working dog. The JD> announcer merely says "Denim by Levis Strauss: For People JD> Conscious of Their Environment". JD> The add, rather than establishing some kind of voguish JD> trend-setting precident for people to feed working dogs, could JD> have just as easily extended the same message not to. Thanks for bringing this up Jeff, I can see you've put some thought in to it. Now if we only knew where to email that to, eh? * * * * * * * * | BILL K. * | BILLSCOT * | @DIAC.COM * * * * * * * * * --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Wildcard BBS,Thornton,CO HST/V34+ +1-303-252-0491 (1:104/725) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: EEK00002Date: 10/15/97 From: JEFF DUBOIS Time: 11:35pm \/To: JIM KITCHEN (Read 0 times) Subj: looking for JK> ftp.clark.net in the directory /pub/poehlman Hi Jim, I was on David's site the other day and downloaded a few or your programmes to put on line up here. There was a file on the site, BLIST.ZIP which was supposed to be an informative text file on a series of internet e-mail mailing lists complete with subscription information which may be of interest to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, I downloaded it three times and there was an error in the zip file. PKZIPFIX couldn't correct the problem either. Any ideas where David got this from or do you, by chance, have it? Thanks in advance. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Vision Information Systems (1:163/266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: EEK00003Date: 10/16/97 From: PATRICK GORMLEY Time: 03:27am \/To: WILLIAM ACKLEY (Read 0 times) Subj: speech programs with soundcards William both asap and asaw will work with soundcards if msapi is on your system. I believe that is available from microsoft and when it's there it will allow you to use synthesizers like the flextalk and others that are msapi compliant. --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.3 * Origin: The TALKING HUB * Alexandria, VA * (703) 549-5612 (1:109/632) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: EEK00004Date: 10/14/97 From: BILL BURGESS Time: 10:14pm \/To: JEFF DUBOIS (Read 0 times) Subj: my bulging Levi jeans Good grief, the ghost from Christmas past. How are you doing, Jeff? I haven't heard from you in ages. The last person in your area to be heard from is Alan Conway, and I was happy to get the information about the possible restart of CAGDU, or the Canadian Association of Guide Dog Users for our American friends who are not familiar with it. I am busy lately with this new mailreader, as it doesn't behave anything like BlueWave. It is called 1stReader, and it is most interesting. I must go to Toronto and proofread the latest Shriners publication we put out, as I am the prime proofreader. But you might wonder by my echomail as I do not take time to correct typos in the past due to being online and needing every precious minute to read and reply in the hour per day allotment I had. So give Dogface, a.k.a. Joy a hug for me, and chat again soon. TTYL Bill Bill * 1st 2.00 ~ Ability OnLine - Toronto Canada - (416) 650-5411 --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0150 * Origin: Ability OnLine - Toronto Canada - 416 650-5411 (1:250/518) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: EEK00005Date: 10/14/97 From: MIKE FREEMAN Time: 01:34pm \/To: BILL KOPPELMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: CHANGE YOUR GEANS On 07 Oct 97 21:28, Bill Koppelmann wrote: > PG> not even want to be around them. we > PG> are causing this negative > PG> image and isolation ourselves. BK> Hmmm, that's an interesting point, and BK> one I'll have to chew on for BK> a while. Well, Bill, at least your dog won't be chewing on it! (grin) Sorry, I just *couldn't* resist! Mike Freeman < K 7 U I J > Internet: mikef@pacifier.com --- PCRR QWK 1.60 --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Pacifier Online Data Service (1:105/101) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: EEL00000Date: 10/16/97 From: JEFF DUBOIS Time: 07:19pm \/To: BILL BURGESS (Read 0 times) Subj: lurking blinktalkers I'm still here, though as you say, silent for the most part. I've been so busy with renovations at the cottage this summer and still hacking away at Carleton University that I just don't have as much time as I'd like to. Alan Conway and Brian Lingard are still pretty active users here and the BBS is still hanging in there. Dogface is fine, having just turned nine. There was some discussion up here about revitalizing the CAGDU (Canadain Assocaition of Guide Dog Users). Since a number of the users here are interested in that area I have already made the BBS available through our new othernet internet gateway to have anyone here interested start up a mailing list for that purpose. So far though, no takers. Well I gotta run. I have to finish three papers this week and I also have to prepare a seminar for next week discussing the appropriateness of judicial discretion in sentencing. Take care. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Vision Information Systems (1:163/266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: EEL00001Date: 10/16/97 From: ANN SABONAITIS Time: 03:40pm \/To: JIM KITCHEN (Read 0 times) Subj: Computer games THANKS WARMLY JIM. HRE--IF YOU WI6SH TO INVESTIGATE HOW TO PLAY CHESS VIA COMPUTER, SEND INTERNET TO: DONALDB2@AOL.COM AND HE WILL GET BACK TO YOU. I'M DOING QUITE WELL. WAITING FORMY GESS SET SOMEONE GVE ME. I'M ON SSI SO I CANT JUT SPLURGE MY MONEY. --- TriToss (tm) Professional 11.0 - #66 * Origin: Keystone BBS * Shrewsbury, MA * 508-753-3767 (1:322/743.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: EEL00002Date: 10/16/97 From: ANN SABONAITIS Time: 03:43pm \/To: LAURA MULRANEY (Read 0 times) Subj: Computer games HI LAURA, IF YOU WISH TO INVESTIGATE CHESS VIA COMPUTER SEND INTERNET TO DONALDB2@AOL.COM AND ASK HIM ABOUT IT. --- TriToss (tm) Professional 11.0 - #66 * Origin: Keystone BBS * Shrewsbury, MA * 508-753-3767 (1:322/743.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: EEL00003Date: 10/15/97 From: CHET TACKA Time: 07:38pm \/To: JEFF DUBOIS (Read 0 times) Subj: my bulging Levi jeans JD> ... rather than establishing some kind of voguish trend-setting JD> precedent for people to feed working dogs, could have just as easily JD> extended the same message not to. Willie and I have discussed this ad (that I haven't seen....). He was dismayed at what my "read" was (or, would've been, if I had seen it....). I wonder if the ad wasn't innocent "hip": They took a liberty--a liberty of familiarity--to which they weren't entitled??? I have dogs... Given that I can see, my demands are little (if NOTHING) more than "Don't bite" and "Don't pee on the damn carpet!!!". Having, in recent weeks, though, taken number-one hound to various kids' outings (soccer on Saturday, something on Sunday, etc.)--I was struck by the number of people that would run up--NO QUESTIONS ASKED--and pet the dog. (The dog didn't mind, and I didn't give it too much thought until this conversation.) More so, I was struck by the folks that would allow their toddler to run up!!! Here's how I frame this conversation: What is GROSSLY wrong in the public's perception of how to treat a working dog and that dog's significance isn't really all that remarkable if you understand that folks don't know how to deal with SOMEONE ELSE'S dog.... I bet a Pit Bull in-harness would get respect.... JD> Just my two cents. Now we have four cents.... chester ... If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy folks? --- Via Silver Xpress V4.01 BEERISGOOD * Origin: BlinkLink - Perceiving is believing! 412-766-0732 (1:129/89) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: EEL00004Date: 10/16/97 From: CHET TACKA Time: 06:48am \/To: MIKE FREEMAN (Read 0 times) Subj: FIRE!!! Hi, Mike.... It's been a while... [I had relayed the story from England, of a 50-year old blind women's purchase of an apartment being opposed by the residents of the same building. Those residents feared she would burn the building down making her tea.] MF> Thanks for relaying this story. How awful! had I been the blind MF> woman, I would have been livid! OTOH I wouldn't even have MF> mentioned I was planning to live with a sighted friend. On TV over there [BTW, my wife put together a trip to London for our 20th anniversary!!! That's why I was even aware of this situation.] they didn't mention that: That she was moving in with someone sighted. As you did, I thought that was a distracting, irrelevant element. Let me ask you this, though: Was this an HONEST presentation of a concern, regardless of the validity of the concern. That is: Do all of us (sighted) think that way; but, we are less forthright???? Just a thought.... If you're still reading, can we talk about McGoo??? My folks just moved to within blocks of me; as opposed to years from me. So, I get their/MY MOTHER'S opinion on things I would, normally, not have gotten. They haven't yet met My Favorite Blink, but know him from my references. So, they pay attention to issues that might not have gotten their attention, years ago. My mother didn't recall the group, but she recalled that someone wasn't happy with a Mr. McGoo movie. She couldn't understand it, recalling only the innocent, mindless humor of the very old cartoon. Actually, she didn't think McGoo was anything but old! So, [and I hope this is a valid point], we have a women denied a residence because she's a fire hazard; and, here in this country, we have a NATIONAL issue of revisiting an old cartoon. If YOU know McGoo, you could see him! If you don't McGoo, you couldn't see him, or, you're not old enough!! I am wondering which of my prejudices I can attribute to watching McGoo cartoons 30 years ago. Are the right fights being picked???? Or, GOD FORBID, am I missing something, AGAIN!?!?! As always, I enjoy your "read" on things... chester ... This, too, shall pass!!!! --- Via Silver Xpress V4.01 BEERISGOOD * Origin: BlinkLink - Perceiving is believing! 412-766-0732 (1:129/89)