--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: E2J00005Date: 02/13/97 From: RAUL A. GALLEGOS Time: 12:01pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: getting nettamer Hi All, hope you are having a nice day 11-Feb-97 17:43:12, Oscar Sosa wrote to All Subject: getting nettamer OS> For those who don't have a way to access the -W-WW, OS> you can use lynx if you have a shell account to get to the above OS> webpage. If anyone needs help with getting nettamer using the OS> above method,drop me a line. Also, if anyone has problems, I can email you the latest nettamer. Raul A. Gallegos --- Terminate 4.10a42/Pro*at - Alpha Testor * Origin: Terminate keeps full control of this echo. ;-) (1:109/921.15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: E2J00006Date: 02/13/97 From: RAUL A. GALLEGOS Time: 12:03pm \/To: OSCAR SOSA (Read 1 times) Subj: netcom * Replying to a message in : MY_MAIL Hi Oscar Sosa, hope you are having a nice day 09-Feb-97 23:35:10, Oscar Sosa wrote to Raul A. Gallegos Subject: netcom OS> Sorry for the delayed essage to this, but are you saying that you OS> cannot use nettamer with netcom? If so, I would think he could OS> just discard their software and use that. OOps, I'm sorry, I did not mean to imply that Netcruiser was the only software that can be used on a netcom gui account. Simply that the software is not speech friendly. Nettamer can successfully be used with Netcom and all though I have not personally used it myself, I know of a couple of blind users that have no problems. In fact, right now I am trying out nettamer for news as I have not really found a really good news reader that can handle off-line reading. I'm not too fond of the www features and email features, but I like everything about Nettamer. Raul A. Gallegos --- Terminate 4.10a42/Pro*at - Alpha Testor * Origin: A Terminate a day keeps the doctor away ;-) (1:109/921.15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: E2J00007Date: 02/13/97 From: RAUL A. GALLEGOS Time: 12:06pm \/To: OSCAR SOSA (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: opinion * Replying to a message in : MY_MAIL Hi Oscar Sosa, hope you are having a nice day 09-Feb-97 23:39:12, Oscar Sosa wrote to Raul A. Gallegos Subject: Re: opinion OS> Raul, I'm a DOS user and proud of the fact. I won't use windows OS> until there's simply no other choice. The fact that no software is OS> being put out for it doesn't bother me, as long as I have software OS> that works to do what I want to do. Oh, yes, I've got windows, but OS> really dread using it. My personal comment. The way I see it, one will use what one feels comfortable with. If you don't need Windows for your daily operation of your computer, then great. Even though I primarily use Windows, there are times when I need to copy a file fast or do some directory managment and even though I know how to do it via Windows, I prefer to open a dosbox and use the command prompt as it is faster and more efficient. What worries me about people who don't want to use Windows until it is the last resort is that they may have a harder time learning the operation of it and be behind. But then again, there are many of us who learn very quickly so why worry??? I worry because I've worked with many computer users sighted and blind who are scared of Windows and because of that fear, they take longer to learn the operating system. Take care... Raul A. Gallegos --- Terminate 4.10a42/Pro*at - Alpha Testor * Origin: raul@pobox.com is *the* personal email address ;-) (1:109/921.15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: E2J00008Date: 02/14/97 From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Time: 04:24am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: AOP Bulletin Originally appearing in a local New Orleans conference. ============================================================= AOP Alert Thursday, February 13, 1997 ============================================================= The following is a legislative alert from the Association of Online Professionals, the world's largest association of Internet Service Providers and other professionals who manage online services. Please give it the widest possible distribution. ============================================================= Comments to FCC on ISP Access Fees ============================================================= Over the past week, message traffic across the Internet has incorrectly characterized the procedures, deadlines and general tone of an FCC request for comments on access fee reform as it might apply to Internet Service Providers. This is an important issue for the online community, and AOP encourages ISPs and other interested parties to file comments. The following information is intended to assist you in doing so. On December 23, the FCC initiated a proceeding to reform the present system of interstate access charges levied on long- distance carriers to make that system more competitive and to address questions of whether these fees reflect the actual cost to the local telephone companies. This proceeding, in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) is identified as CC Docket No. 96-262. Formal comments were invited, with a deadline of January 27 and a deadline for reply comments of February 13. This is **not** where ISPs should focus their responses, unless they have valid input to these specific telephone company issues. However, many of the comments filed on this issue do touch on ISP access fees, and you are encouraged to read the comments that have been posted online at http://www. fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Comments/access_reform/. Also on December 23, the FCC released a Notice of Inquiry (NOI) identified ad CC Docket No. 96-263. In the NPRM (see above), the FCC tentatively concluded that information service providers should not be subject to the interstate access charges as currently charged. However, the Commission also noted that the development of the Internet may raise issues beyond the scope of the access fee reform proposed in the NPRM. The NOI is designed to help the FCC decide whether access fees may be needed to create incentives for the deployment of more efficient data services. AOP encourages all of its members to file appropriate comments with the FCC on this issue. In doing so, please be aware of the following: 1) You may file formal comments in writing, as AOP will do. 2) You may file informal comments by electronic mail by sending them to isp@fcc.gov. However, please note that "informal comments" does not mean "casual." It means "less formal than written comments," but there are still requirements for the format (e.g., putting the docket number in the subject line, providing a mailing address, etc.). Before filing comments, please review the information at http://www.fcc.gov/isp.html. 3) Deadline for these comments is March 24, 1997. Reply comments to these comments must be filed by April 23, 1997. Note that these are **new** filing deadlines, amended by FCC to provide more time for responses. Before filing comments, you are strongly urged to review: ** The general information on filing comments with the FCC, found at http://www.fcc.gov/isp.html. ** The text of the NOI itself, which may be found at the same web address. ** Comments previously filed by other parties as part of their response to the NPRM. This is an important topic before the FCC, and we encourage you to make thoughtful, informed comments. AOP will post its comments shortly for the review of our members. --- Squish/386 v1.11 * Origin: Southern Star - sstar.com - V.34+/ISDN - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: E2J00009Date: 02/12/97 From: BRIAN LINGARD Time: 09:28pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Happy Valentine"s Day 12 February 1997 Ottawa Canada Happy Valentine's Day to all. Hopefully you won't get a Valentine like Al sent Bugsie! ... "42? 7 and a half million years and all you can come up with is 42?!" --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Vision Information Systems (1:163/266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: E2J00010Date: 02/13/97 From: BRIAN LINGARD Time: 06:27pm \/To: GERALD LORUSSO (Read 1 times) Subj: Subject:blind man tickited for j walking18:27:3202/13/97 Interesting. Now I wonder if the blind man was crossing at what he thought was an intersection or pedestrian corssing or mid-block? One guy in Toronto got a ticket for drunk driving of his electric wheelchair. Seems electric wheelchairs are not considered vehicles so while he was drunk and possibly a danger to himself, he was not guilty of drunk driving. ... Back up my hard disk? I can't find the reverse switch! --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Vision Information Systems (1:163/266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: E2J00011Date: 02/14/97 From: HARVEY HEAGY Time: 04:06am \/To: BRIAN LINGARD (Read 1 times) Subj: Hawaii quarantine In a message Brian Lingard typed to Harvey Heagy BL> What is the quarantine requirement in hawaii now? Thought it was BL> 4 months. It is 4 months, but at one time it was 6 months or 180 days. BL> Hear anything about how the lawsuit with that blind bank of BL> america vice president sueing the state? No I haven't. Harvey --- msged 2.07 * Origin: The Metairie Point -- New Orleans, LA (1:396/1.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: E2J00012Date: 02/14/97 From: HARVEY HEAGY Time: 04:12am \/To: HENRY KASTEN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: travel for the disabled In a message Henry Kasten typed to Harvey Heagy HK> I've been there, done that. I think those conventions are a bit much to HK> ask of HK> a blind person as well. :) True, but at least we are supposed to have the power of reasoning where the dogs supposedly do not. But I am like you; sometimes I wonder if the situation is reversed. HK> If you are talking about the blind conventioneers, I agree wholeheartedly. HK> They HK> should all stay home. Just send the dogs and canes. That's not a bad idea. There are more bad owners than bad dogs. I understand that the N.F.B. had to pay thousands of dollars in damages to the Anaheim Hilton due to dog guide problems. I think most dog guide users do try to be responsible, but it only takes one or two bad apples to spoil it for all of us, and unfortunately they don't engage in their bad activities when people are around to catch them at it. Harvey :) --- msged 2.07 * Origin: The Metairie Point -- New Orleans, LA (1:396/1.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: E2K00000Date: 02/14/97 From: HENRY KASTEN Time: 11:17am \/To: GERALD LORUSSO (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Subject:blind man tickited for j wal11:17:0002/14/97 Howdy gerald, I'm not sure if you were trying to make a point with your message. GL> To day in Ohio a blind man was ticketed for J walking while GL> trying to cross the street. Police say the blind man cauled the GL> accident with a truck, the blind man receieved a broken tail bone and a GL> j walking ticket. Does this mean that Ohio has some stupid blind people? does it mean Ohio only tickets blind jay walkers? Would a non blind jay walker been ticketed for causing an accident? Does it mean that blind people should be exempt from jay walking tickets? Curious minds want to know. HK ... Close the curtains. Love is blind, but NEIGHBORS AIN'T!! --- * Origin: * Citylites * Ft Worth, TX * (817)249-5215 * (1:130/803.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: E2K00001Date: 02/13/97 From: EDDY MORTEN Time: 09:55pm \/To: ALECIA DARIN (Read 1 times) Subj: Just chatting... Hello Alecia! AD>Yes we do infact I am working on getting a file together that AD>will give evryone a complete listing of all the services that we do AD>provide here in Nebraska. Oh, That's great. I am sure all visually impaired and blind people of Americans will be happy to get services for them. Keep it up work Alecia! :) AD>[EM] Really? Is Arkansas is located at Pacific Ocean? You are AD>fish person? hahahahahaha Cute Eddy! I like your sence of hummor:) Nice AD>to see that you have a bubbly personality! Thank you, thank you, thank you very much AD>your friend is right! However; thier is a story in the Bible AD>which tells AD>about the tower of babylon. The People tried to build a some AD>what type stucture and they where trying to reach God by doing this. AD>Because they did this they made God angry so, that he thru them all into a AD>bable which is why we have diffrent languages. Wow! That's interesing! I must read bible in Egypt which it is interesing to me anyway. By the way, I am not really strict religous. AD>You are very Welcome:) Running into Trouble can be not a AD>healthy thing it AD>can do a bang-up job on your body:) Bruses are not cool AD>Hehehehehehehe.... Well, Running into any troubles is more fun to do. :) No, I am only joking around with you. :) AD>Well got to go again I will ttys take care and God Be with AD>you Always:) Do not run into a wall! :) I am glad that god will be with me forever, I appreciate it. :) Take care and write back soon. I enjoy chat with you. Eddy, --- FMail/386 1.22 * Origin: VIPER BBS 604 433-3657 Vancouver B.C. (1:153/738)