--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DDW00072Date: 09/27/96 From: ANN SABONAITIS Time: 06:14pm \/To: ALAN CONWAY (Read 2 times) Subj: Scott gi, this message is being typed on the braille lite. being totallydeaf-blind, i use it minus speech. the braille lite 40 is now available but i'm nq going to buy it--i'm perfectly happy }ith this unit. i feel the braille lite 40` would be great for braille proofreadrs. ,"i have been quite busy--i `am taking 2 courses plus brailling greeting crds--i sell birthday anistmascrds for $1 for 10 crds. plus i havebeen trying to keep my counselor away--shes jerk! shedoesnot give`me credit for what i know. f dont need a`dounselor--just friends. --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #66 * Origin: Keystone BBS * Shrewsbury, MA * 508-753-3767 (1:322/743.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DDW00073Date: 09/28/96 From: ANNE PAGE Time: 02:49am \/To: TAMMY KLAUS (Read 2 times) Subj: A LAB NAMED NINA Just want to let you know, Tammy, that I have used the poem (song) in this October issue of my canine newspaper. As we agreed I could do, I deleted the middle appearance of the repetitive paragraph, leaving in the first one that said "a Lab" and the last one that said "my Lab", and I put the "my Lab" in all caps for emphasis. Everything else is *exactly* as you wrote it. Since you are partially sighted, if you will give Terri Mansfield permission to e-mail me your snail mail address or (if you have internet access) do it yourself to me at anne.page@psl-online.com, I will be glad to scale it up from 9 point type and small dog figures to full page big print off my laser printer so that you can see the decorations and also send you a hard copy of the whole issue so you can use a magnifier to get a general idea of how it looks on the page to my sighted readers. Terri will, of course, still put the text version of the issue on your floppy disk so that you can easily read the feature material in it. The reason I want you to have an enlargement of the layout is because you will never believe what I used unless you see it yourself. The drawing of a sitting Lab holding an envelope in its mouth under the title is one of Linda Ozelis' rubber stamp pieces. She has an ad in my paper for her rubber stamps. That's not the piece I'm talking about. It's the one at the bottom that you will not believe. When I went to my "service dog" draw page to see what I had stored there, not expecting to find that I had a guide dog, I found that I DID HAVE ONE and it is a LAB wearing a harness! Incredible, isn't it? It could have been a Dobe or a Shepherd or a Boxer or something else, but it was a LAB. I looked at it twice to be sure, then I scaled it up big to make sure I wasn't imagining it, and I then I giggled to myself the whole time I was copying and pasting it to the poem because I could just imagine how you were going to react when you found out what I decorated it with. I put a bordered rectangle next to it so it looks like the dog is talking like in a comic strip, and then I typed inside it, "Tammy and I live in Pennsylvania", so that my readers, 90% of whom are in the Houston area, will know the poem (song) came from someone in another state. Anne Page * SLMR 2.1a * On a clear desk you can never find anything. --- QScan/PCB v1.16b / 01-0075 * Origin: PSL Online Houston, TX 713-442-6704 @psl-online.com (1:106/6256) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DDW00074Date: 09/28/96 From: HARVEY HEAGY Time: 08:36am \/To: BOB HUMBERT (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: NFB, DON'T SPEAK 4 ME In a message Bob Humbert typed to Harvey Heagy BH> right on charley!! but then he/they are not going to quit. it's much BH> easier BH> to bash and blame than it is to accept responsibility for one's own hort BH> comings. Oh yes, where have we heard that line before? Why from the old agency people of course. Where else? You know the ones that say "you can catch more flies with honey Etc." We are accused of bashing and complaining because some of us think we should get at least the federal minimum wage for an honest day's work and that blind people are just as entitled to equal protection under the law as the sighted. And because we stand up for those rights we are accused of bashing and complaining. Harvey --- msged 2.07 * Origin: The Metairie Point -- New Orleans, LA (1:396/1.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DDW00075Date: 09/28/96 From: HARVEY HEAGY Time: 08:39am \/To: BOB HUMBERT (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: NFB, DON'T SPEAK 4 ME In a message Bob Humbert typed to Harvey Heagy BH> my my my if you were successful as a radio d.j. and a placement person for BH> a BH> private employment agency, why did you need to train to be a vending stand BH> operator? try accepting the blame for some of your failures yourself and BH> see BH> if that fits and then go on from there with the rest of your life ithout BH> lashing out at everyone who tries to help you. believe it or not, some BH> people succeed because of, not in spite of the system. If you knew anything about broadcasting you would know that it is unstable at best, and that is not a reflection on anyone's ability. Station ownerships and formats change; staffs are replaced without warning and so forth. You might want to take some of your own advise and check your facts out before doing any of your own bashing. The private agency I worked for has long since gone out of business which had nothing to do with my ability or disability. and as to why I needed to take vending stand training it was to have something to fall back on and also for another reason which is the same reason anyone else takes it; to pay bills and to make a living. Most blind people do not grow up wishing to be a stand operator. They are usually forced into it because they can't find a job in their chosen field at any given time largely because of an inept rehab system that has largely failed us. And as to your last comment, it is quite the other way around; most handicapped people have succeded in spite of not because of the rehab system. Harvey --- msged 2.07 * Origin: The Metairie Point -- New Orleans, LA (1:396/1.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DDW00076Date: 09/28/96 From: WALTER SIREN Time: 11:38am \/To: WILLIAM WILSON (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: NATIONAL BRAILLE PRESS In a message William Wilson typed to Harvey Heagy WW> Harvey and Walter, WW> I dunno, I gave my E-mail address to the N.B.P. with the WW> understanding it might end up anywhere! Maybe you did Willie, but I did not give them mine to be sold or otherwise to businesses for their solicitations. I am already on enough junk lists, which I have no control over, so I certainly did not want to add any more. WW> Btw, I too have received every piece of junk mail that's been WW> discussed or even reposted here lately, but frankly, I receive so WW> much of that stuff that I never even considered where the senders WW> are getting my name! No doubt about it, junk mail is even more WW> of an annoyance for us than most just due to the extra effort we WW> need to go through to discover it is indeed junk mail, but it WW> just doesn't seem to be something worth making an issue out of! Willie, you are probably on a ISP which is unlimited access, and if that were the case for me that would not make as much difference. Coming on Oct. first, I will have unlimited access on delphi, then it won't make as much difference on there. I certainly wouldn't want to have to start paying extra to download all of that trash. At least the junk snailmail that I receive doesn't cost me any thing to receive, and they have to pay to send it to me, so that will keep it down to some extent. Some of that junk mail btw comes on cards which makes nice cards for me to write braille on such as my grocery lists. WW> In fact, that original PASTA promotion probably got more WW> attention due to our discussing it here than it ever would have It probably did, but I was not concerned about them getting advertisement as having to download that sort of stuff. WW> had we not, as most of us probably did exactly as I did when we WW> first received it at our InterNET provider's system, deleted it WW> and immediately forgot about it without reading more than a line WW> or two. WW> Yes, I guess it's all a matter of how one has their priorities WW> arranged, but for me, this one is way down on the list! Well, at least by me calling their 800 number, he had to pay something since he sent it, and he won't be sending me any more. Btw, there are a lot besides us insensed by this sort of stuff, and AOL tried blocking the junk, and there is a court injunction against them for doing so. Walter --- msged 2.07 * Origin: The Turning Point -- New Orleans, LA (1:396/1.9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DDW00077Date: 09/28/96 From: WALTER SIREN Time: 11:15am \/To: RICK ILLSLEY (Read 2 times) Subj: Humor, continued... In a message Rick Illsley typed to All RI> Did ja hear the one abaout the guy who called his computer technician to RI> report that he couldn't fax with his new computer? Rick, no I did not hear that one, but did you hear about the seven year old second grader who was saying that his teacher was mean, and nobody would pay any attention to him, so he put a tape recorder in his back pack and recorder her demeaning the kids in his class, and saying that she would be glad when they were no longer in her room, and that most of them were going to get f's. The principal has moved her to another room, and gave them a new teacher. I said they should have promoted that kid to the third grade. I believe that was in yesterday's news paper. Walter --- msged 2.07 * Origin: The Turning Point -- New Orleans, LA (1:396/1.9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DDW00078Date: 09/28/96 From: WALTER SIREN Time: 11:24am \/To: JIM KITCHEN (Read 2 times) Subj: I am back In a message Jim Kitchen typed to All JK> Hi JK> I just got back from an eight day stay in the hospital. JK> Monday I received an aorta gram which is where they take a catheter JK> and insert it into an artery in your groin and shove it in until it JK> is up to your heart. They then release some die and take pictures JK> of the blood flow through your aorta. As they were removing the JK> catheter there was some internal bleeding, so now the entire right JK> side of my crotch all the way around to my hip is covered in lovely JK> shades of yellows, greens, blacks and blues. Well, not many people can go around displaying such colors. I am sorry to hear about your hospital stay, and I can impathize with you, with as many stays as I have had in the hospitals in the past 16 years. JK> Thursday I had surgery. The anesthetist spent a long time trying JK> to get an epidural into me. He said that he would have given up JK> long before for anyone else. While I haven't had any problem with those, they have a problem with me when it comes to puting an i.v. in me, because my vains want to run away from em. JK> One part of my stay that was kind of fun was the day after surgery JK> when I was bathed by three nurses. And you know that I was told JK> that they had gotten the prettiest nurses just for me. You were luckey. All I ever got for my baths were aids. JK> They also had a sign made up that pointed out to everyone that I JK> was blind so that they would talk to me as they came into my room. JK> It really helped. While some people might object to such a thing, I found that sign quite helpful also. Walter --- msged 2.07 * Origin: The Turning Point -- New Orleans, LA (1:396/1.9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DDW00079Date: 09/28/96 From: LISA SALINGER Time: 01:43am \/To: ANNE PAGE (Read 2 times) Subj: Movie on Sunday! Hi Anne. It was kind and observant of you to pay attention to nonspeaking parts. You better watch out about that though, or you'll be getting tons of netmail. "Anne, I'm going to watch this movie on nbc and my friend is watching this on cbs. Could you pay attention to them so you could tell me about them?" Huh? Could ya could ya? Anyway, I was told the wedding dress sceen was tastefully done. I've seen toooooo many movies where the climax was a blind person touching another's face, or two blind people doing the same. I know this happens, but c'mon Hollywood, enough is enough! I was pleased to be able to put away a pilfered airline sickness bag for another movie with a blind person in it! I've had people put my hands on their faces one too many times without saying a word. I just feel embarrassed and, on a mor crass day, I have the temptation to sing a little song: "Mrs. Miller has a zit! e i e i o! and all these zits are really gross, e i e i o! With a zit zit here, and a zit zit there,, etc. etc. Sorry, I don't know what my problem is, but that sure felt goooood! Have a nice day, Anne. Lisa & Alistair --- TriToss (tm) Professional 1.0 - #224 * Origin: The Gutter * Scranton PA * (717) 346-3034 (1:268/418.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DDW00080Date: 09/28/96 From: LISA SALINGER Time: 01:47am \/To: CAROL ASHLAND (Read 2 times) Subj: Help needed Hi Carol. I'm not from New York, but I do have a question. You said this man wants to be a point off of a local board. I've been trying to gather fido facts as I go, and without much success. Would you mind telling me "What is a point off a local board?" Thanks, Carol. Lisa & Alistair --- TriToss (tm) Professional 1.0 - #224 * Origin: The Gutter * Scranton PA * (717) 346-3034 (1:268/418.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DDW00081Date: 09/28/96 From: LISA SALINGER Time: 01:50am \/To: BILL KOPPELMANN (Read 2 times) Subj: how's the pup Hi Bill. Haven't seen you around here in awhile. Hope all is going well with you. Glad to hear Maxi is d3mng better, that's always good news. Lisa & Alistair --- TriToss (tm) Professional 1.0 - #224 * Origin: The Gutter * Scranton PA * (717) 346-3034 (1:268/418.0)