...---------------------------------------------------------------------- ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- RBBSMail/386 v1.0 * Origin: The Beehive RBBS, Hephzibah, GA 706-798-3864 (1:360/6.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DCU00005Date: 08/24/96 From: ANN SABONAITIS Time: 08:30pm \/To: BILL KOPPELMANN (Read 4 times) Subj: STUFF HI, I WAS NOT POSTINBECAUSE OF SOFTWARE PROBLEMS NN THE PART OF SYSOP. PLEASE REPLY SO I KNOW I'M GETTING OUT. THANKS. I THINK I PUT MY REHAB COUNSELOR IN HER PLAC? I JUST TELL THEM I'M TOO BUSY FOR THEM. TRY IT.^M S --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #66 * Origin: Keystone BBS * Shrewsbury, MA * 508-753-3767 (1:322/743.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DCU00006Date: 08/24/96 From: RICK HAYNER Time: 01:38am \/To: MONIQUE BEAUDOIN (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Hello -=> Quoting Monique Beaudoin to Rick Hayner <=- MB> Hello Rick MB> I got your message and I understand you enjoy music. I do not sing MB> but I play p[iano and keyboard. MB> I send you an other message some time. I wrote a report all day for MB> somebody and now I'm tired. MB> Monique Beaudoin Hi Monique. I'm sorry I've been so long in replying to this message. My computer is down, and it took me about a week to get it going again. I've lost the External Cache memory. I have a yamaha psr300 keyboard I play around on, and I'm also a piano technician. I wish I played piano better so I could hear what my tuning jobs turn out like. Well Monique, I'll talk with you soon. Rick Hayner ... Flowers leave part of their fragrance in the hands that bestow them --- OMX/Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Hayner's Point, Kalamazoo, MI 616-372-9667 (1:2201/23.4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DCU00007Date: 08/22/96 From: JOHN SCHWERY Time: 06:38am \/To: TAMMY KLAUS (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: How Blind Is Blind? -=> Quoting Tammy Klaus to John Schwery <=- TK> I was drunk at the time, but I THINK John Schwery said to Tammy TK> Klaus: Miss Tammy, would you please sober up before you post, even though your posts may not make as much sense? JS> Tammy, I think that some of the feeling of resentment on the part of JS> totals toward partials comes from sighted people elevating partials JS> above totals. TK> This is an excellent point! I certainly am no better than a total, by TK> *any* stretch of the imagination. Just a bit more fortunate. Again, TK> it seems that an agency for the blind (the school in your example) is TK> doing more harm than good for the blindness community by elevating TK> partials over totals. Of course, they still keep all of us below TK> them. Tammy, yes, they didn't call the partials blind, or, think of them as blind. You are fortunate if you do not over-use your vision. I wonder if you wouldn't mind putting your internet address below your taglines? Your address stays the same, but, the taglines change. If one wants to read your taglines, he doesn't have to wait for your address, first. John ... A family tree can wither if no one maintains its roots. --- Blue Wave/Opus v2.30 * Origin: BlinkLink - Perceiving is believing! 412-766-0732 (1:129/89.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DCU00008Date: 08/23/96 From: WILLIAM WILSON Time: 08:16pm \/To: ALL BLINKS AND WINKS! (Read 4 times) Subj: A little early, but here's the rules! I'm posting these a tad early this month, as quite frankly, it appears as if they've been forgotten! In particular, note the change to number 3 to try and clarify it a bit! The Ten Commandments of Blinkdom, or... Official rules for participation in BlinkTalk, the echo that deals with topics of particular interest to visually disabled persons: 1. Please allow the moderator to perform his job as he sees best, and ignore those who attempt to do his job for him! 2. Keep the forwarding of messages to and from BlinkTalk to a minimum because there is a greater than normal possibility of duplication due to the large number of participating sysops! 3. Messages should in some way relate to the stated topic of the echo, and although this topic is quite loosely defined, use of the echo for personal mail will not be tolerated! In general, this means messages that can be of interest to no person other than the individual to whom they are posted, such as the classic, "I called you saturday and you weren't home!", which belongs in netmail. Likewise, the forwarding of or responding to private netmail in the echo is absolutely forbidden! 4. Personal attacks will not be tolerated, no matter how much the jerk deserves it! 5. Due to the nature of the echo, it is permissable to introduce new products here, and even encouraged! Hard selling should be avoided, however, as should direct attacks on competing products! 6. Never use a bathroom in an unfamiliar location without first locating the toilet paper! 7. Use of the echo for illegal activities is forbidden! This includes such things as dispersal of pirated software, credit card numbers, copies of copyrighted material such as RFB and music recordings, etc. 8. It is paramount that the participants in BlinkTalk realize that one man's croutons is another man's dried bread! That is, just as your approach to blinkdom got you to where you are, a different approach may have been just as affective for someone else, so do consider this when replying to messages! 9. All messages should contain an origin line including the participating board's FidoNet address. BlinkTalk is, and has always been a FidoNet echo, and gating to other networks and/or mediums is permissable only with approval of the moderator. This echo is currently being handled on the FidoNet backbone, but the method of distribution is the sole decision of the moderator. 10. Above all else, think of BlinkTalk not as a nationwide forum for visual disabilities topics, but as a place where you can meet with fellow blinks and interested winks, and have a good time! We've got something good going here, and it is my intention that we keep it that way! Thanks for your participation, and keep it clean, William Wilson (BlinkTalk Moderator) FidoNet Address 1:129/89 ... Nobody's Favorite Sysop! --- Via Silver Xpress V4.3 BT006 * Origin: BlinkLink - Perceiving is believing! 412-766-0732 (1:129/89) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DCU00009Date: 08/24/96 From: STEVE RICHTER Time: 06:58pm \/To: TAMMY KLAUS (Read 4 times) Subj: Things Howdy there Tammy, I'm,. . well you know who I am. I'm Steve... A voice told me who I am so now I am no longer distracted. TK> Hee,hee. Hey, if its offered, I have no problems accepting TK> discounts! Our groomer/dog supplier gives us a discount on TK> If youre not getting heartworm pills for Benson for free, ask your vet TK> to request it from the sales rep. Thanks, I will check into it. You mentioned this at a good time. I am too broke to pay attention right now (grin). My Vet is pretty cool with me as well. He gives me a ten percent discount on visits and tests. the only thing he charges me full price for is the medications that we have to get some of the time. His groomer does the bath, dipping and nails and ears for free. The works for nothing. I like their price. Have a good one. I still hate school,. . . This semester. when will it all end. If things work out it will end sooner than i had planned. I am considering taking the One year L. C. D. C. crash coarse and then continuing towards my masters at a slower pace. I'm burnt out on school and working with addicts and alcoholics is part of what I want to do with the rest of my future. This would be a quick way to get licenced to do what I do at A A regularly and get paid enough to continue to be able to treat people with dissociative disorders later. It's a step for me to check out. But it is not something I need or want to rush. TK> Benson gets more affection because he is better behaved than you are! There's no arguement there. But I'm still the cutest of the two of us (grin). . Alright! He wins there too. TK> You are so bad! Nina had a milkbone up at my parents. They spoil TK> her rotten, just like she was a kid. They never spoiled me like that! TK> I love it! Have you always had a twisted sense of humor, or did you TK> acquire it when you became visually impaired? Not until after eating the funny spaghetti looking stuff when I was just a little puppy (snear, pout, shrug). Steve and Benson (woof) ... Bad day: When your twin sister forgets your birthday. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.20 [NR] * Origin: The Fireside BBS Houston, Texas (1:106/114) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DCU00010Date: 08/24/96 From: ANNE PAGE Time: 01:33am \/To: WALTER SIREN (Read 4 times) Subj: Some Thoughts About Blind Thanks very much, Walter, for sharing your point of view with me. WS>>I never thought I was being sent away because I was bad or anything Of course she said *some* children, not *all* children, but even then it was something I had never thought about and so it kind of surprised me to have to consider that aspect of sending a blind or deaf child away to a residential school. Your explanation was very thorough and made a lot of sense to me. Thanks again. Anne Page * SLMR 2.1a * HAVE A HAPPY DAY! --- QScan/PCB v1.16b / 01-0075 * Origin: PSL Online Houston, TX 713-442-6704 @psl-online.com (1:106/6256) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DCU00011Date: 08/24/96 From: ANNE PAGE Time: 01:46am \/To: LISA SALINGER (Read 4 times) Subj: Some Thoughts About Blind Hi, Lisa. LS>>Hi Anne. I don't know if these children who are sent away to school LS>>carry guilt feelings into adulthood. Of course, I can only speak for LS>>those individuals whom I know. Evidently you and Walter didn't go to the same school. You knew some like that, and he didn't know any. LS>>I was educated in public school, and that wasn't easier. My young friend is in public school. She just finished junior high and is now in her first year of high school. She is, once again, the only blind student in her school. Anne Page * SLMR 2.1a * Don't fear going slowly; be afraid of standing still. --- QScan/PCB v1.16b / 01-0075 * Origin: PSL Online Houston, TX 713-442-6704 @psl-online.com (1:106/6256) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DCU00012Date: 08/17/96 From: BONNIE AINSWORTH Time: 05:38pm \/To: RON DENIS (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: How Blind Is Blind? Hi Ron, Like you, I don't know what all of the fuss is about either. I am legally blind. I attended public school most of my life. I wasn't given the opportunity to use a cane too much while I attended public school. They wanted me to use what little vision I had to the best of my ability (heheheh). I really needed the mobility lessons but since O&M instructors are so scarce here in Wyoming, the most they could work with me was at least once or twice a week if we were lucky. That wasn't enough for me at the time. I use a cane now on VERY unfamiliar ground. RD> The d* stick scares the whatevers out of roller-bladers RD> though. Hmmmm, maybe they'll learn to give the right away to the people who really need to WALK on the sidewalk (grin). Take care. Bonnie Ainsworth ... I must be BLIND because I sure don't 'C' --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Electronic Library 28800 BPS In Denver, Co 303-935-6323 (1:104/810.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 238 VISUAL DISABILIT Ref: DCU00013Date: 08/20/96 From: BONNIE AINSWORTH Time: 04:58pm \/To: WILLIAM WILSON (Read 4 times) Subj: How Blind Is Blind? Hello Willie, I thought it would be best to follow the thread all the way before I even considered replying to your message. WW> Don't you realize how wrong it is to speak on behalf of all WW> "partials" like this? With my computer being down for the last month, I've followed this string the best I could. I'm also a partial and have read Tammy's message and didn't interpret her speaking on behalf of all of us who have partial sight. In fact, I did understand that she based this message on her own experience and observance of other people she has encountered. I have had positive experiences with people of all communities. I have never had any totals saying they were "jealous" of some of the sight I have. Sure, partials have some sight but we do have our limitations and most of us accept them. The thing to keep in mind is that we each have had our own experiences and opinions about treatment of others with varying degrees of sight (or lack thereof in this case). --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Electronic Library 28800 BPS In Denver, Co 303-935-6323 (1:104/810.0)