--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: E5E00008 Date: 05/10/97 From: CHRIS OGNIBEN Time: 11:56am \/To: TERRY MAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: go braves go TM>I believe the drainage system is automatic, and would be working from the fi TM>drop of rain. But yes, it would keep the field from getting too soggy or TM>having standing water on the field, so they only have to worry about the act TM>rain falling, and not what the rain left behind after it's done. I seen a behind the scenes story of this machine. And as far as i remember they had sensors to indicate the areas where the most water builded up to be ready for drainage. So i think it could be automatic or perhaps run easily by a operator. TM>... Atlanta Braves - 1995 World Series Champions! TM>--- JetMail 0.99beta22 TM> * Origin: *[Rebel BBS]-[Las Vegas]-[HST/V.E]-[702/736-2822]* (1:209/745) --- OLX 2.2 TD Press any key to continue or any other key to quit * Origin: The "CyberVault" BBS System! - Bergen County, NJ! (1:2604/407) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: E5F00000 Date: 05/11/97 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 09:56am \/To: CHRIS OGNIBEN (Read 1 times) Subj: Radio The Braves traded CHRIS OGNIBEN to the Pirates for saying: CO> thing is to do is write or call your sports radio station in your area CO> and get them to find a way to carry it. You've got about as much chance of that suceeding as Rush Limbaugh has of ridding himself of 100 unslightly pounds. Tulsa has two teams being beamed into the area via radio - Texas and St. Louis. Texas is the parent club for Tulsa's AA team while St. Louis used to be the parent club for the AAA team. The Royals show up on TV but not radio (and they barely show up on TV these days). If there are a 100 Mariners fans in Tulsa, they've got NO chance of getting their favorite team being brought in. CO> But what about the damage it does to the stations in the area that CO> are being broadcasted to the rest of us through the internet. What damage? Remember, you're only repeating what the owners say. Don't forget that those same geniuses thought that CBS was right to limit the number of in-season telecasts and they lost a lot of fans because of their stupidity (Never mind the fact that the Braves were drawing in millions across the country with their 100+ games, CBS *had to* be right, right?). The owners in the NFL were almost unanimously against Monday Night Football because they felt that it would mean too many games on the air and it would hurt their Sunday telecasts. Of course, MNF was one of the biggest reasons why the NFL grew in popularity. Had Pete Rozelle listened to the owners and not gone for it, the NFL would have taken many more years to become as popular as it did. They talk about baseball being overexposed but that's not really the case. If you break down how local teams do during a telecast on ESPN, Fox or FX, you'll see that they do rather well. Telecasts of teams from outside the area don't do as well and that's to be expected. The NFL gave up long ago on the concept of going national with all of its broadcasts and they've regionalized most broadcasts. CO> Where their listeners probably end up listening through the internet CO> so they don't have to use radio's. But you labor under a false assumption, the Internet ISN'T taking away fans from the local market, it's ADDING them. I'm NOT a fan of the Cardinals or the Rangers (I've been a fan of the Braves and A's for many decades) and I could give a rat's butt about either St. Louis or Texas. With the Internet, I can keep tabs on both; without the Internet, I DON'T turn on the Cardinals or the Rangers and I imagine, a lot of other fans don't turn on the local teams for the very same reasons. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: Johnson and Norm, then pray for a storm (1:170/1701) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: E5F00001 Date: 05/10/97 From: PAIGE MILLER Time: 02:32pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: YOU BE DA UMPIRE! This happened on opening day, in a game between Seattle and Boston. Seattle has runners on first and second, one out. The batter hits a low pop-up (or high line drive) towards second base. Boston's Nomar Garciaparra (I love that name!) and John Valentin converge on the ball and both back off at the last second. The ball hits Seattle baserunner Edgar Martinez, who is touching second base at the time, but has not yet passed either Garciaparra or Valentin, who are slightly behind second base. After a few seconds of hesitation, second base umpire Ted Hendry declares the batter out because of the infield fly rule. Martinez, thinking he has been called out because the ball hit him, heads for the dugout, and a Boston player picks up the ball and tags Martinez, who is now off the base. Double play? Or is it? YOU BE THE UMPIRE! a) double play, Martinez is out because he was tagged off the base b) Batter is not out (no infield fly), Martinez is out because the ball hit him. c) Double play, but Martinez is out because the ball hit him d) Other (please explain) ... How was I gonna get an education, sittin right back of Bobbi Ann Mason ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- * KMail 3.10o Knight Moves --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0406 * Origin: Knight Moves - Rochester,NY 716-865-2106 (1:2613/313) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: E5F00002 Date: 05/11/97 From: PAIGE MILLER Time: 08:19am \/To: MARK YODER (Read 1 times) Subj: You be the statistician -=> Mark Yoder took a called strike three for saying to Paige Miller <=- PM> Okay, let's try one more time. Darkness can cause tie games, and so PM> these are replayed in their entirety. Curfew cannot cause a tie PM> game, because the game is suspended and completed at another time. PM> Thus, darkness or weather can cause a team to play more than the PM> 162 scheduled games, curfew cannot. MY> Since when is a game, which is a tie, called because of darkness, MY> replayed in it's entirety? It should be resumed from the point at MY> which it was halted. Any player (ie pitcher) who had already been in MY> the game and removed would not be able to re-enter in the resumed game, MY> etc... I agree with you, I think that MLB would be better off resuming tied games from the point of interruption, but that's not what they do. They replay tied games in their entirety, from scratch. This dates back to god knows when. Thus, as Alan Hess points out, Cal Ripken Jr. has a few 163 game seasons, and Cesar Tovar played in 164 games one year. Ty Cobb played in 156 games in 1909 when the season was 154 games long, and in fact that year Detroit was 98-54 (152 games), which indicates there were at least 4 tie games replayed that year. ... Chocolate: The other major food group. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- * KMail 3.10o Knight Moves --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0406 * Origin: Knight Moves - Rochester,NY 716-865-2106 (1:2613/313) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: E5F00003 Date: 05/11/97 From: PAIGE MILLER Time: 08:27am \/To: MARK YODER (Read 1 times) Subj: Laugh of the week -=> Mark Yoder took a called strike three for saying to Paige Miller <=- PM> My favorite poor wording is 4.09(b) which says, in part, "...the PM> umpire shall not declare the game ended until..." Now, that's not PM> exactly the same as saying "the umpire SHALL declare the game PM> ended when". Does one mean the other? If so, why didn't they write PM> it that way? MY> Makes you wonder, don't it... I can't prove this, but I'm guessing that a lot of the wording in the rule book dates back to the turn of the century, when the usage of the English language was different than it is now. The word "shall" is not generally used much anymore, but was popular back then. And anyway, 4.09(b) should be a strong declarative sentence, replacing "the umpire shall not declare the game ended until..." with "The game ends when..." ... A bird in the bush is better than one just overhead. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- * KMail 3.10o Knight Moves --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0406 * Origin: Knight Moves - Rochester,NY 716-865-2106 (1:2613/313) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: E5G00000 Date: 05/11/97 From: CARL FORTUNATO Time: 08:03pm \/To: JOSH PARKER (Read 1 times) Subj: go braves go -=> Josh threw a breaking ball to Terry. <=- JP> Do You like The Braves.. Cuz I LUV them.. They rule.. Well, they didn't rule last autumn. :) (A Yankee fan, in case you couldn't guess.) - Carl | carl.fortunato@moondog.com ... "It ain't over - till it's over!" - Yogi ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] --- PCBoard (R) v15.4/M 10 Beta * Origin: MoonDog BBS RIME NetHub Brooklyn,NY (1:278/15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: E5I00000 Date: 05/12/97 From: PHIL MUTH Time: 10:29pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 1 times) Subj: You be the statistician -=> Mark Yoder took a called strike three for saying to Phil Muth <=- PM> As I recall (I know my aging mind is not perfect), ... PM>The sequence of events: George Brett hit a two-out homer off of Rich PM>Gossage in the top of the ninth to give the Royals the lead. Now see? I told you my mind was not so perfect. I thought the incident took place in the top of the eighth. Paige sounds pretty convincing that it was the top of the ninth. I hate it that as I get older, I get less perfect =8*} Thanks, Paige for the insight. Honestly, what I vividly remember (I saw the game on Royals television) was George storming toward the home plate umpire in his road uniform, arms flailing as he went. Kind of an amusing picture in retrospect... --- * WR 1.31 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Hammer BBS (405) 376-0210 Mustang, OK (1:147/1039.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: E5I00001 Date: 05/12/97 From: MARK YODER Time: 11:50am \/To: PAIGE MILLER (Read 1 times) Subj: You be the statistician While threatening to strike, Paige Miller said to Mark Yoder: PM> I agree with you, I think that MLB would be better off resuming tied PM> games from the point of interruption, but that's not what they do. They PM> replay tied games in their entirety, from scratch. This dates back to PM> god knows when. Thus, as Alan Hess points out, Cal Ripken Jr. has a few I guess with today's lights and other modern amenities, tied games are fairly rare. That doesn't change the stupidity of replaying the whole game, though. 8-) -= .\\ark =- ... Bud Selig: A living example of Artificial Intelligence. --- GoldED/2 2.50+ 1547US3 * Origin: Rushmore II: Rockne, Leahy, Parsegian & Holtz (1:3634/22) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: E5I00002 Date: 05/12/97 From: JOSH PARKER Time: 04:02pm \/To: CARL FORTUNATO (Read 1 times) Subj: go braves go CF> Well, they didn't rule last autumn. :) CF> (A Yankee fan, in case you couldn't guess.) ^----------------------------------] Hey.. Thats NOT funny.. hehe.. But that IS.. | ..hehehe.. Sorry.. Coodnt resist that chance.. hehehe.. CF> ... "It ain't over - till it's over!" - Yogi ___ Blue Wave/386 "Well QUE the Fat Lady.. Cuz now its ALL Over.." -- Josh Parker.. hehe! JP!! --- TriToss (tm) Professional 11.0 - #172 * Origin: The Outer Limits BBS * Tarpon Springs, FL * (1:3619/37.0)