--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DBI00002 Date: 07/12/96 From: TIM REPINE Time: 11:25pm \/To: JAMES DUNLOP (Read 2 times) Subj: All-Star Picks -> MB> Chipper Jones is better than Ken Caminiti??? MB> -=- This year, -> yes. -> -> .309 average, 15 HR, 62 RBI (.372 OBP, .528 SLG) for Chipper, -> .289 average, 11 HR, 43 RBI (.353 OBP, .480 SLG) for Caminiti. -> -> Of course, Caminiti has been hurting, but Chipper Jones is among the -> top ten players I'd like to build a team around. Alex Rodriguez is -> probably first on that list. I have to agree with you on the fact that Chipper is a better player..But as to building your team around a young player, I would have to go with Griffey JR. He is still only 25!!! --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/M 2 * Origin: Resist the Dark Side! (1:133/7008) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DBI00003 Date: 07/13/96 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 09:06am \/To: JAMES DUNLOP (Read 2 times) Subj: All-Star Picks James Dunlop was seen kissing Large Marge and telling us: This IS the fans' game and I think that it should remain that way. I think that the league should expand the rosters to 40 with AT LEAST 3 and up to 5 of those as sentimental favorites like Ozzie Smith. Not everyone would play but at least they'd be able to get recognized. I get so tired of guys missing because of the politics and while this won't eliminate it, it will help keep the numbers down. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: Johnson and Norm, then pray for a storm (1:170/1701) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DBI00004 Date: 07/13/96 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 09:11am \/To: SCOTT ZOLNOSKI (Read 2 times) Subj: Ozzie Smith, an All-star!?!?!? The Braves traded Scott Zolnoski to the Pirates for saying: SZ> Am I the only one REALLY bothered by Ozzie Smith's selection to this I sure didn't mind it. Look, Ozzie EARNED his spot by being the best that I've ever seen and if the NL wants to give him one last accolade before he retires, who cares. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: Marge Schott, the cure for Baseball Fever (1:170/1701) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DBI00005 Date: 07/13/96 From: PAUL MCENANY Time: 12:24pm \/To: JAMES DUNLOP (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Al All Star Team Sounds like your picking the players you like the best not the ones with the best numbers. --- CNet/3 * Origin: [FidoNet] Christian \o/ Retreat * Lewisville, TX * (1:124/3266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DBI00006 Date: 07/11/96 From: MIKE SHEA Time: 09:15pm \/To: MARTY BLAISE (Read 2 times) Subj: Not in world series yet -=> Quoting Marty Blaise to All <=- MB> Other than the Houston Astros, are there any ML teams that have never MB> appeared in a World Series? yes, plenty.. ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Flying Grasshopper 350+ Megs of Doom & Heretic (1:103/400.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DBI00007 Date: 07/13/96 From: MILO GARDNER Time: 10:01am \/To: MILO GARDNER (Read 2 times) Subj: 1996 vs 1995 MVP statistics MG> A brief comparision of 1996 vs 1995 MVP type statistics, MG> runs plus rbi's divided by at bats reveals that 1996 MG> has 20 players producing over the .400 level while the MG> end of 1995 found 12 players reaching that MVP statistic. MG> Again, Mark McGwire leads the list, .549 in 1996 and .521 MG> in 1995. Hampered by injuries McGwire will probably not MG> AGAIN receive strong MVP consideration in 1996. MG> A complete list of the 1996 top 20 list follows: MG> 1996 1995 MG> AL NL AL NL MG> 1. McGwire .549 .521 MG> 3. Buhner .490 .440 note Buhner and MG> 2. E. Martinez .498 .457 E. Martinez's MG> 4. G.Vaughn .471 two year consistencies MG> 5. Gonzlaex,TX .468 MG> 6. Griffey .467 MG> 7. Thomas .466 .432 yes, always a big producer MG> 4. G.Vaughn .471 two year consistencies MG> 5. Gonzlaex,TX .468 MG> 6. Griffey .467 MG> 7. Thomas .466 .432 yes, always a big producer MG> 8. Bagwell .460 .390 yes, very solid. MVP year? MG> 9. Burkes .456 MG> 10. Belle .443 .452 again a solid producer MG> 11. Sheffield .433 MG> 12. Thome .433 MG> 13. Bichette .431 .397 (this one surprised me) MG> 14. Palmeiro .426 MG> 15 Canseco .424 MG> 16. Bonds .420 .421 again a solid producer MG> 17. Anderson .413 MG> 18. Williams,NY .411 MG> 19. Vaughn, Bos .405 .407 (MVP) solid, but not 1996 MVP MG> 20. C. Jones, ATL .400 MG> Note that 1995 plus .400 producers Edmonds, Valentine and Salmon MG> from the AL, and M.Williams, and Piazza from the NL have dropped MG> off the 1996 list. That is about it, any comments? Milo Gardner Sacrmento, CA --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: >> Ubik: Strike Four! << (1:203/289) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DBI00008 Date: 07/11/96 From: ISRAEL VELEZ Time: 03:38pm \/To: MARTY BLAISE (Read 2 times) Subj: Not in world series yet * Once apon a time, Marty Blaise was yacking away to All about: MB> Other than the Houston Astros, are there any ML teams that have never MB> appeared in a World Series? MB> --- MB> * SPITFIRE v3.5 The Longhorn BBS, Houston, Tx 713-937-8636 Hey. Houston has never been to the World Series? WOW!! I know for a fact that the Marlins and the Rockies haven't. I'm not sure, but I believe Seattle hasn't been there either. Not sure about that really. Cya . -Israel Velez --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: The Game Players BBS -- [DEMiSE] WHQ -- 86o.423.6894 (1:327/6894) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DBI00009 Date: 07/11/96 From: ISRAEL VELEZ Time: 03:42pm \/To: PAUL MCENANY (Read 2 times) Subj: Ozzie Smith, an All-star!?!?!? * Once apon a time, Paul Mcenany was yacking away to Scott Zolnoski about: PM> I couldn't agree more. Ozzie can't even start on his own team. He has PM> no business playing on the All-Star team. PM> Paul McEnany Dallas, Tx Hey. This was done, in my opinion, out of respect for a future hall-a-famer. This is his last year in the majors. Look at Wade Boggs! He had good enough stats to be picked as a reserve but not good enough to be voted as a started. He is most likely a hall-a-famer. It was done out of respect. That's all there is to it. -Israel Velez Willimantic, CT --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: The Game Players BBS -- [DEMiSE] WHQ -- 86o.423.6894 (1:327/6894) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DBI00010 Date: 07/11/96 From: ISRAEL VELEZ Time: 03:57pm \/To: VIRGINIA BLALOCK (Read 2 times) Subj: Mets suck again * Once apon a time, Virginia Blalock was yacking away to Caleb Kim about: VB> Caleb Kim tells Jared Walker about Mets suck again on 18 Jun 96 VB> 15:09: VB> CK> Mets can't do anything. They're always lacking defensive VB> fundamentals. VB> CK> They have lots of talent, but the manager just can't put 'em all VB> CK> together. How pathetic. I thought they were going to be decent this VB> CK> year and had lots of expectation for them, but they just can't VB> CK> figure out how to win. VB> The Mets counted on some pitching that isn't quite there yet. But VB> they are a good young club that will be better in the next few years. VB> That Alex Ochoa is something else so far, huh? Hey. It's true. I don't think Paul wilson should've been up here this early. They should've brought him up later on like Ochoa. I don't know what there record is right now, but they were on a roll after Ochoa was brought up. The Mets are also notorious for having .500%+ second halves so watch out! Mark Clark has led by example and others are starting to follow him. hopefully they can get into a groove the second half like the last few years and be in contention for the wildcard spot. Atlanta is dominating so there's almost no possibility that they'll be dethroned from the NL East at least this year. Oh well. -Israel Velez Willimantic, CT --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: The Game Players BBS -- [DEMiSE] WHQ -- 86o.423.6894 (1:327/6894) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DBI00011 Date: 07/12/96 From: ALAN HESS Time: 05:58pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: B-Yups vs. C-Yups? The Indians play in a new stadium, with skyboxes, quiche, relatively high ticket prices, etc., just as the Orioles do. One would thus assume that the fans at Jacobs Field are as white-collar as the fans at Camden Yards, yet Indian fans make noise and get into the games. So, why are their Yuppies different from ours (or are they?) Maybe the Indians simply play better in front of their fans? --- MsgedSQ/2 3.35 * Origin: Nerve Center - Source of the SPINAL_INJURY echo! (1:261/1000)