--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DAP00025 Date: 06/19/96 From: MARK YODER Time: 10:58pm \/To: GREG CALIRI (Read 2 times) Subj: You call It 2 -=> Quoting Greg Caliri to Jared Walker <=- -JW> But you see the ball didn't bounce directly over the fence. -JW> It was knocked over by the left fielder. GC> You have it right.... a few years ago (2? 3?) there was an incident in GC> which the ball bounced off of Jose Canseco's head, and over the fence. GC> It was a home run. -!- Hehe... you must be going for the triple crown. 8-) No, Jared is *wrong*. The difference here is that in the first situation, the fielder deflected a ball into the stands that had already *BOUNCED* in fair territory. In the situation you describe, the ball had not yet touched the ground in fair territory. Different rule. Different ruling .\\ark ... Sorry, the dog ate my Blue Wave packet. --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Pro Shop/2 :: USR v.34 28.8k :: (910) 864-8898 (1:3634/22) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DAP00026 Date: 06/19/96 From: MARK YODER Time: 11:29pm \/To: JARED WALKER (Read 2 times) Subj: You call It 2 -=> Quoting Jared Walker to Mark Yoder <=- MY> JW> But you see the ball didn't bounce directly over the fence. It was MY> JW> knocked over by the left fielder. MY>> The rule, in this case also specifically allows for a ball that is MY>> non-intentionally knocked or deflected over the fence by the defender. JW> OK I looked at it last night and I agree with you now I just thought I JW> had something going for a while there. (Thanks for the Tag-Line) Ah... finally someone who will heed the advice of "read" and "understand" the rulebook. 8-) You're welcome to all of the taglines you can lift. Some are pretty good. 8-) .\\ark ... "Don't mince words, Jared ... what do you *REALLY* think?" --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Pro Shop/2 :: USR v.34 28.8k :: (910) 864-8898 (1:3634/22) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DAQ00000 Date: 06/20/96 From: TRENT WOODRUFF Time: 05:02pm \/To: JAMES DUNLOP (Read 2 times) Subj: theBear -=> Quoting James Dunlop to Greg Caliri <=- JD> I'm sure whoever has the book, "The Ballplayers" (where's The Bear JD> when you need him!) would be able to tie it down better. He still doesn't have a FIDOlink (or any link, actually) yet. I think he must have moved to middle-Africa or something. ... I'm not avoiding the question. I'm avoiding the answer. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR] * Origin: PipeLine! Mid-Georgia Bound * Palm Bay Fl 407-728-7386 (1:374/147) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DAQ00001 Date: 06/20/96 From: TRENT WOODRUFF Time: 04:51pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 2 times) Subj: The "Curve" -=> Quoting Mark Yoder to Trent Woodruff <=- TW> Sorry buddy, but so long as I don't extend beyond the boundaries of TW> this echo's rules, I can preach all I want. In fact, I'll re-iterate, BW> Sorry for the attitude TW> You should be. MY> Ok... Ok... No need to be nasty. 8-) You're no fun. ... Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR] * Origin: PipeLine! Mid-Georgia Bound * Palm Bay Fl 407-728-7386 (1:374/147) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DAQ00002 Date: 06/20/96 From: TRENT WOODRUFF Time: 05:02pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 2 times) Subj: Topicality -=> Quoting Mark Yoder to Jon Vandenberg <=- JV> About 15 years ago, my son was on a local team, a good one. There were JV> a couple of pitchers with excellent curve balls, and he couldn't handle MY> While this was an interesting and humorous story, it lacks topicality MY> to Major League Baseball. "He coulda been in da' BIG LEAGUES!" ... So easy, a child can do it! Child sold separately. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR] * Origin: PipeLine! Mid-Georgia Bound * Palm Bay Fl 407-728-7386 (1:374/147) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DAQ00003 Date: 06/20/96 From: JAMES DUNLOP Time: 03:55pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 2 times) Subj: Belle In a message of to James Dunlop (1:3641/1.206), you wrote: JD> Steve Sparks. Knocked him all the way to the minors. MY> Thanks for the assist. I only remembered because a friend who had Sparks on his fantasy team hoped Albert would have knocked him senseless, and eliminate the misery. MY> BTW, took in my (almost) annual Cubs game last Saturday. Saw the cubbies MY> blow one to the Padres 2-1. Good thing it was such a beautiful day at MY> the friendly confines..... cuz the game was a real yawner. 8-( This weekend, it's my trip to "Met Life Fanny Pack Night" at Shea. I will be concentrating most of my attention to the shortstop spot: Barry Larkin and Rey Ordonez. MY> If it weren't for the "Lemon Chil" Dude, it would have *really* sucked. Ah, the luxury of free food and drinks in the left field picnic area. I've been saving up fat grams for a month so that I can go off my diet for one night for the hot dogs. No free Lemon or Cherry Chills, though. Carvel ice cream stand inside the stadium, though. --- The-Box Edit 1.10- PC * Origin: Dunlop Radial Point. Durham, NC. (1:3641/1.206) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DAR00000 Date: 06/18/96 From: ZACH SALTZMAN Time: 11:52pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: All Star Balloting Today I was listening to the radio and the commisioner or somebody important said that the same number of ballots were sent to each stadium. Personally, I don't agree with this. They say that they do this so each of the hometown players get an equal vote. I think that this is stupid. I say, "If the fans want to fill out more, then let them. I mean they're the fans, that are choosing the players in the first place, so why not let them vote as many times as they want. I would like another person's view of this. I don't know if I'm crazy or what. So if you want to reply I woould really apreciate it. --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/M 2 * Origin: Aurora, Co * 303.366.5515 (1:104/953) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DAR00001 Date: 06/19/96 From: PAIGE MILLER Time: 07:50am \/To: KAREN GARNETT (Read 2 times) Subj: BELLE, THE ASS -=> Karen Garnett took a called strike three for saying to Russ Paige <=- KG> And I guess it'a all right for a pitcher to intentionally hit a player KG> who crowds the plate? Especially if the player is Albert Belle? KG> Belle crowds the plate...the pitcher hits him with the ball...voila, KG> they're even? No, it is not all right to INTENTIONALLY hit a batter. It should result in an ejection. What happens to Belle is that he crowds the plate, and he gets hit ACCIDENTALLY more than most players. Let's keep the facts straight. ... Vice Versa; Mafia controlled poetry... ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- * KMail 3.10m Knight Moves --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0406 * Origin: Knight Moves - Rochester,NY 716-865-2106 (1:2613/313) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DAR00002 Date: 06/20/96 From: BOB KOHL Time: 05:05pm \/To: GREG CALIRI (Read 2 times) Subj: Rule Book -=> Quoting Greg Caliri to Bob Kohl <=- -BK> -BK> Paige is the umpire. I'm just a casual viewer. If I find -BK> the money, I'll -BK> get the rule book. Right now, my programming books and -BK> other hardware -BK> needs come first. GC> While the price may have gone up, the 1994 Official Baseball Rules was GC> available at bookstores and from The Sporting News. It goes for a GC> whopping $3.95. Not out of reach for anyone who watches the game, and GC> certainly a necessity for any umpire. I'll be looking for it. Bob Bob Kohl - Rio Rancho, NM, Tuesday, 18 June 1996 at 20:47. Fido : 1:301/1701 - Internet : bobakohl@abq-ros.com .!. Team ?? is now forming for those who couldn't get into any other Team. --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/M 2 * Origin: *Binary illusions BBS* Albuq. NM (505) 897-8282 V.34 (1:301/45) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: DAR00003 Date: 06/19/96 From: GREG CALIRI Time: 07:02pm \/To: ED GRINNELL (Read 2 times) Subj: Belle -EG> Come on, Greg, more than a few of those fans at the -EG> Meadowlands were season ticket holders and you didn't see -EG> management shaking in their boots when they cancelled their -EG> season tickets for hurling snowballs. Heck, I suppose -EG> Albert should go and sign some balls for those idiots in -EG> New York whether they're season ticket holders or not. Wait a minute. He asked a guy for a favor, the fan asked for a favor in return and was (according to reports) intentionally insulted. And revoking the Giants tickets was probably a very positive public relations gesture. It means that you're going to be careful about who you let use your tickets. I once let someone at work use my Celtics tickets. He raised a ruckus with someone in the area. Although I wasn't in danger about losing my tickets, I *DID* receive a call from the Celtics office -- "be careful who you let use your seats, because *YOU* are responsible." -EG> GC> If I received some type of verbal abuse from an employee of a -EG> company -EG> GC> which I patronized (such as the Texas Rangers Baseball Club or the -EG> GC> Cleveland Indians Baseball Club) - I would complain and expect an -EG> GC> apology. -EG> Even if you the butthead that started it? Was he? Do you know for a fact that the fan that caught the ball had harrassed Belle? Did *HE* start it? And if so, why would he want a ball or agree to graciously exchange the ball? --- * Origin: Computer Castle / 20 Lines / Newton, NH / 603-382-0338 (1:324/127)