--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: D5T00005 Date: 05/23/96 From: MARK YODER Time: 05:11am \/To: MILO GARDNER (Read 1 times) Subj: You call It 2 Milo Gardner was ejected for saying to Damian Stamm DS>> on. The catcher sees the runner break for the plate and just as the DS>> ball is pitched he steps out of catchers box and tags the runner DS>> (before he reaches the plate)..... Is the runner out or is he safe?? DS>> Nothign more than a pitch out. Runner is out. MG> Bull, there is a catcher's balk! That is if the catcher left the MG> box before the pitch -- the runner scores -- if he left the box MG> after the pitch --- an umpires decision --- the runner is out! Where on earth did you come up with "Catcher's Balk"??? It's not in my rule book... Damian is correct... this event amounts to nothing more than a pitchout. Runner is tagged out attempting to steal home. -= .\\ark =- ... "All humans things are subject to decay." --- GoldED/2 2.50+ 1547US3 * Origin: Rushmore II: Rockne, Leahy, Parsegian & Holtz (1:3634/22) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: D5T00006 Date: 05/23/96 From: MARK YODER Time: 09:47pm \/To: STEWART MCDONALD (Read 1 times) Subj: Hi While threatening to strike, Stewart Mcdonald said to 1:2410/817: SM> How ya doing, just wondering if you are out there, I don't even know if SM> this will get to you or not. If so write back. see ya Stuart, This is an internationally distributed echo for the discussion of Major League Baseball. Please make sure that you are in the correct area when entering your messages. Thanks. *********************** .\\ark Yoder Moderator - ML-BASEBALL *********************** ... Stewart's a self-made man, and worships his creator. --- GoldED/2 2.50+ 1547US3 * Origin: Fighting Irish Fan Club (1:3634/22) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: D5T00007 Date: 05/23/96 From: PAUL LOPEZ Time: 09:05pm \/To: PAIGE MILLER (Read 1 times) Subj: B*tch In Cincy, Part Iii Paige... > PL> That may be but how long can they operate in this manner under Bud > PL> Selig? PM>Most owners seem to be relatively happy, many are making money. What is Which does not include the "acting" commissioner himself. >going to push them into selecting a commissioner. If the players' strike >didn't push them into getting a commissioner, I can't imagine what kind >of crisis would push them into action. As long as there is an owner as an acting commissioner the decisions made will always be owner-biased. Paul *** * OLX 1.52 * PCDOS&MSDOS&CP/M&WINDOWSI'LLFIDDLEWITHOS/2WOULDN'TYOU --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: LOPEZVILLE BBS *Hydes, MD. USA* 410-592-2568 (1:261/1367) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: D5T00008 Date: 05/23/96 From: PAUL SEPPALA Time: 09:30am \/To: JEREMY MC MURRAY (Read 1 times) Subj: Myers -> > JMM> Having watched Randy Myers in the NL the past couple of years, -> I > JMM> doubt any team with him as their closer will win a -> championship. > > The Indians won the A.L. pennant with Jose' Mesa, -> who'd done absolutely noth > before last season. Myers at least has -> a track record. -> And that track record indicates he has been slipping in recent years. He hasn't really slipped, more like he's put up fair to good (but not great) numbers for a closer. IP H/9 IP BB/9 IP SO/9 IP ERA SVS ----- ------ ------- ------- ----- ---- 1992 79.2 9.5 3.8 7.5 4.29 38 1993 75.1 7.8 3.1 10.3 3.11 53 1994 40.1 8.9 3.6 7.1 3.79 21 (proj to 30 w/o 1995 55.2 7.9 4.5 9.5 3.88 38 (proj to 43) He really hasn't shown a decline in the number of hits he gives up or his ability to strike batters out. His control is slipping but not yet disasterously. I was alarmed enough by his poor 2nd half last year but it may have been just one of those things. --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/25 * Origin: Westonia Computer Systems 1:250/636 (416)241-1981 (1:3615/51) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: D5T00009 Date: 05/15/96 From: BILL MULLEN Time: 02:32pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 1 times) Subj: Al-O-Mar -=> Quoting Mark Yoder to David Lentz <=- MY> David Lentz was let go on waivers for saying to Mark Yoder: DL> Will have to wait to a trip to Borders to find a book on DL> statistics to explain the diffence between statistical, DL> conventional, correlation and my process, which I am tenatively DL> calling rank correlation. MY> First you say that your process isn't something that a MY> professional statistician would call "correlation", then you say MY> you're tentatively calling your process "correlation." PMJI, but I've been following this discussion, and I wonder if perhaps by the phrase "rank correlation", he means "correlation that stinks"? =) Bill Mullen ... 74% of all statistics are made up; heck, make that 80% ... --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 * Origin: Computer Castle / 20 Lines / Newton, NH / 603-382-0338 (1:324/127) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: D5T00010 Date: 05/18/96 From: ALLAN KAUFMAN Time: 05:15am \/To: JAMES DUNLOP (Read 1 times) Subj: Wade Boggs -=> Quoting James Dunlop to Allan Kaufman <=- JD> In a message of to James Dunlop JD> (1:3641/1.206), you wrote: Taking a walk helps the team, and will JD> almost always be superior AK> this is not always true, with the game on the line i want to see a AK> player up there swinging to win the game, not taking a walk. JD> And when he swings at a bad pitch, and makes out, what do you say JD> then? He choked? I won't. For instance in the game 5/17/96 vs Oakland, Canseco struckout late in the game after the count went to 3-0, i was glad he was swinging to win the game. Of course a hit would have been nice, but you see my point go up there and swing to win the game. AK> Boggs didn't always leadoff. Besides after 1st inning there was AK> always runners on base for the Sox during middle 80's. Boggs did AK> very little to help Sox win. What good is a leadoff hitter that AK> can't steal a base. Wade is a good on base man. He never was AK> clutch, Boggs only hit one homer to win a game. JD> Boggs has led off most of the time, or hit second lately with the JD> Yankees. With Dave Stapleton, Rey Quinones, Rich Gedman, Spike JD> Owen in the lineup, how many chances to drive in runs are there? JD> What good is a leadoff hitter that can't get on base? Boggs JD> scores more runs than those guys. Sure, it's nice to have a Tim JD> Raines or Rickey Henderson to leadoff, but then again, they are JD> two of the best leadoff hitters of all time. One home run? How JD> many OTHER base hits? Not many he probably took a walk {grin} AK> He could have hit for more power, but he would always protect that AK> batting average. Lets face it if most guys on this echo think Pete AK> Rose is not a Hall of Famer because all he did was hit for AK> average. We all know Rose was much more than that. JD> Who says he could have hit for more power, Boggs himself in a interview on the radio few years ago. JD>and would that have JD> been worth the resulting decline in his other numbers? I don't JD> think so. I do. ~~~~AK~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ ... 10...9...8...7...6... (Bo Derek getting older.) --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] * Origin: Computer Castle / 20 Lines / Newton, NH / 603-382-0338 (1:324/127) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: D5T00011 Date: 05/18/96 From: ALLAN KAUFMAN Time: 05:30am \/To: BRUCE MARSHALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Sandberg -=> Quoting Bruce Marshall to Allan Kaufman <=- AK> How's Sandberg doing? BM> Sandberg isn't even hitting his weight. I've said it before, and BM> I'll say it again, he's washed up and the Cubs are stupid for even BM> allowing him to come back. SAndberg isn't washed up . It was not stupid of the Cubs to "allow" him to come back. Bruce numbers aren't everything. How's defense? Can he stil run? ~~~~AK~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ ... I hit my CTRL key and I'm still not in control. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] * Origin: Computer Castle / 20 Lines / Newton, NH / 603-382-0338 (1:324/127) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: D5T00012 Date: 05/20/96 From: ALLAN KAUFMAN Time: 02:45am \/To: MARK YODER (Read 1 times) Subj: You Call It -=> Quoting Mark Yoder to Allan Kaufman <=- MY> I have a great sense of humor. I just have little tolerance for MY> someone who repeatedly breaks the rules, and you've been doing MY> that quite a bit lately. Mark i have only had a modem for 2 months or so, all this is new to me. I am 38 years old i have 3 children, one who is 14 so don't tell me about rules. I make them all the time. You asked me not to mention Strato so i stopped. You asked me not use a signature box I stopped. So tell me what rules i have broken lately. This is suppose to be fun and relaxation. (so i thought). I myself love baseball but its not my life. I don't and won't take it serious. So take your little tolerance and put you know where! Otherwise have a great day. AK ... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] * Origin: Computer Castle / 20 Lines / Newton, NH / 603-382-0338 (1:324/127) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: D5T00013 Date: 05/21/96 From: GREG CALIRI Time: 07:37am \/To: PETER HASSELBRACK (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Red Sox need everythi -PH> The only good thing the Sox have going for them -PH> now is Mo. He -PH> is really hitting the ball good and seems to be a "Little" -PH> mo patient -PH> at the plate than before. Well Jose is hitting. Yeah, the bullpen is lousy. No lead is safe. But when you score 12-13-18-19 runs a game, you can afford to have lousy pitching. However.... --- * Origin: Computer Castle / 20 Lines / Newton, NH / 603-382-0338 (1:324/127) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 234 BASEBALL Ref: D5T00014 Date: 05/20/96 From: ALLAN KAUFMAN Time: 03:30pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 1 times) Subj: yes master -=> Quoting Mark Yoder to Allan Kaufman <=- MY> Allan Kaufman caught a foul-tip in the mask for saying: MY> put it all on one line. === Cut === MY> Thank you. AK> so sorry master Mark. MY> Netmail to you and your sysop, on the way. Oh well life goes on. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] * Origin: Computer Castle / 20 Lines / Newton, NH / 603-382-0338 (1:324/127)