--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: E1E00000Date: 01/09/97 From: DENISE MACKENSTADT Time: 08:36am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: change of address From: dmacken@ix.netcom.com (Denise Mackenstadt) Subject: change of address Denise Mackenstadt at mack73den@aol.com --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: E1E00001Date: 01/09/97 From: PETE DONAHUE Time: 01:17pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: San Antonio Chapter January meeting From: Pete Donahue Subject: San Antonio Chapter January meeting Fellow FEderationists and Friends, The Greater San Antonio Chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of T^exas will hold it's January Meeting on Saturday january 18, 1997 from 10 a.m. to noon at 130 Camino De Oro road in the clubhouse. This is the same place whare our Christmas Dinner was held. just a reminder for members. Your 1997 dues will be collected at this meeting. Dues must be paid in order for you to be able to vote during meetings. And too remember that elections will also be held during this meeting as well. We welcome one and all to come to our monthly meetings whether you are a member, or if you are on the road and are passing through San Antonio during your travels visitors are always welcome. For further information you can contact Jim Sofka our president at 210-921-2530 E-mail: jsofka@texas.net Yours truly, peter Donahue Secretary, Greater San Antonio Chapter National Federation of the Blind of Texas --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: E1E00002Date: 01/09/97 From: ANN SABONAITIS Time: 06:04pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: HONOR AN ANONYMOUS MEMBER OF MY NFB CHAPTER DONATED $10 IN MY NAME TO NFB. I DONT ATTEND MEETINGS BUT I DO A GREAT DEAL OF BEHIND-THE-SCENES WORK TO PROMOTE NFB ACTIVITIES. SO THIS WAS AN HONOR FOR ME. ONE STRONG ACTIVITY I DO IS PROMOTE BRAILLE. WHAT WILL TPES DO FOR TOTALLY DEAF-BLIND PEOPLE LIKEME? NOTHING--JUT HURT US. IF YOENJOY HURTING US WE WONT TALK TO YOU. SO PLEASE RE-CONSIDER IT. M --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #66 * Origin: Keystone BBS * Shrewsbury,MA * 1-508-753-3767 (1:322/743.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: E1E00003Date: 01/09/97 From: CURTIS CHONG Time: 07:41pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Computer Science Update Greetings and felicitations: The Winter, 1996, edition of Computer Science Update is now available on NFB-NET, the electronic bulletin board system of the National Federation of the Blind. The name of the file to download is CS96WINT.TXT. The format is plain ASCII text. Plans are under way to make the newsletter available via other electronic distribution systems. At this point, the NFB in Computer Science will be discontinuing the distribution of cassette editions of the newsletter. A general mailing to our members will be going out to that effect. The print edition will still be distributed, however; and disk copies will be made available to NFBCS members upon request--drop a note to me at chong99@cris.com or leave me a voice message at 612-379-3493. If you are on the Internet and are unable to retrieve the file from NFB-NET via TELNET, get in touch with me and I will e-mail you a copy. If you have any questions or concerns about this, please get in touch with me using the information shown above. Yours sincerely, Curtis Chong, President National Federation of the Blind in Computer Science E-MAIL: chong99@cris.com --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: NFB NET St. Paul, MN (612) 696-1975 (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: E1F00000Date: 01/10/97 From: DAVID ANDREWS Time: 05:18am \/To: ALAN & RUTH ANNE WHEELER--DA2OFUS (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Another JEWEL in the crown of discri05:18:5001/10/97 -=> Quoting Alan & Ruth Anne Wheeler--da2ofus to All <=- A&RA> From: Alan & Ruth Anne Wheeler--da2ofus A&RA> Subject: Another JEWEL in the crown of A&RA> discrimination A&RA> Dear Federationists and friends, A&RA> I realize that this incident took place on a local scale, but I am so A&RA> mad that I think that I need to share it with all of you. A&RA> Today my wife and I went shopping for groceries at a A&RA> chain in the Chicago area named Jewel-Osco. Just as we were getting a A&RA> cart and proceeding to start shopping, a cart-boy physically stopped A&RA> us and said to my wife (who is sighted) that if I would prefer I could A&RA> sit on a bench at the front of the store and wait. (as if I didn't A&RA> have a tongue to speak for myself or could hear) Well, my wife, being A&RA> stunned and rather shocked by such a comment said, "No. My husband A&RA> would prefer to be with me," in a most indignant tone of voice. The A&RA> cart-boy responded, indigantly, "Well, I'm sorry, I just thought he'd A&RA> be more comfortable." A&RA> The only reason we didn't turn on our heels and leave the store is A&RA> that we needed to make this particular shopping trip and had a limited A&RA> window in which to do so. This incident, obviously, A&RA> was all we could talk about during the whole shooping trip. By the A&RA> time we left the store, we were pretty angry. However, our anger A&RA> increased when we discovered that this bench where I would be "more A&RA> comfortable" was outside, in an area where the outdoor temperature was, A&RA> at that time, in the low 40's. I certainly understand your anger and hurt at this incident. It has happened to all of us in one form or another, unfortunately. We must educate people one person at a time. It sounds like the act of an individual, not an institutional act on the part of the store. What would you have the store manager do, fire the guy, give you a $100 etc.? His response and action seems appropriate to me. David Andrews ... ll Bugs? What bugs? *MY* code doesn't have any bugs. ll --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: NFB NET St. Paul, MN (612) 696-1975 (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: E1F00001Date: 01/10/97 From: SHERYL BURGSTAHLER Time: 06:07am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Potential DO-IT Scholars (Forward) From: Sheryl Burgstahler Subject: Potential DO-IT Scholars (Forward) Applications to be DO-IT Scholars and participate in the 1997 summer program at the University of Washington are being accepted through January 31, 1997. Encourage someone to apply who is a Sophomore or Junior in high school, has a disability, plans to go to college and is interested in science, engineering, mathematics or technology. Information about the program and the application process can be obtained from DO-IT. http://weber.u.washington.edu/~doit doit@u.washington.edu (206) 685-DOIT --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: E1F00002Date: 01/10/97 From: PRIMO CADAWAS Time: 09:05am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Digest setup From: primo@cyberia.com (Primo Cadawas) Subject: Digest setup Hello Folks, Do anyone can tell me how to set this list to digest? I keep trying to set it to digest by sending to the listserv this command. " set blind-talk digest " But every time I send a command, It will reply an error message back to me. Thanks in advance. primo --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: E1F00003Date: 01/10/97 From: ALAN & RUTH ANNE WHEELER--DA2OFUS Time: 09:09am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Another JEWEL in the crown of discri09:09:1101/10/97 From: Alan & Ruth Anne Wheeler--da2ofus Subject: Re: Another JEWEL in the crown of discrimination On 10 Jan 1997, David Andrews wrote: > What would you have the store manager do, fire the guy, give you a $100 etc.? How about a *genuine* apology instead of an attitude of "I don't care"? It would have been *nice* had he acknowledged that something wrong was done. Instead, the store manager had a sense of apathy. I have noticed, that in the Midwest, blind people are treated like dirt. Where I used to live in California, these things like the incident I mentioned Jewel practically never happened. By contrast, I have had many, many more such incidents in the approximately 4 months I have been in Chicago, than I had the *entire* time in California since losing my sight. (I had one whole incident in California in over four years.) I might also add, that in California, in every store, I was another friendly face to say "hello" to. I can't remember a single incident of being ignored. In the Midwest, I am ignored in every store, except one. That *one* stands out because it is the exception to the rule. It is the only store where when I check out, I am spoken to, as if I exist. 4 + years, vs. 4 months. It's a sorry thing to say about the Midwest. By the way, had the store manager responded to the complaint with genuine concern, there would have been an opportunity to educate him about the equality of the blind, but since there was no concerned response, the opportunity for education was lost. You may as well have thrown the concept of equality for the blind up against a brick wall with this guy. That is where our anger *really* came in. It was his attitude of apathy that is so common in the Midwest and uncommon on the West Coast. Alan and Ruth Anne Wheeler alanw@gbx.org da2ofus@techinter.com ******************************************************************* | FUR Station #298--Run by Love does not consist in gazing | Erich, Tabitha and Mandy-- at each other, but in looking | Lots of cat food, birds, and outward together in the same | enchanting wildlife to view direction. | through large windows with --Antoine de Saint-Exupery | big window sills! ^. .^ | = " = ******************************************************************* --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: E1F00004Date: 01/10/97 From: HARVEY HEAGY Time: 02:38pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: exit row seating Well, I thought we had this battle won, but something always comes along once in a while to remind me that we don't. On Jan. 2 a friend of mine and I were flying from New Orleans to Oakland California. After being delayed due to weather at L.A.X. for over 2 hours we boarded the plane for oakland. We were moved from our original seats because we were seated on an exit row. When I asked my friend if she knew anything about this, she who is also a federationist said that a law was passed a few years ago allowing the airlines to remove us from exit rows without fear of reprisal and that there wasn't anything we could do about it. Since I was not sure if this was the case I gave them the benefit of the doubt and moved. We were also told that because she had a dog guide it was an F.A.A. regulation that she sit on the bulkhead. Even the head flight attendant conceided later that this was not true but nothing was done to change our seating assignments as the flight was full to overflowing and we couldn't do anything about it. And frankly, it was also due in part to the fact that the person I was traveling with chose to wimp out. I would like to know what is the current status as to our allowability to sit in exit rows? I already know that bulkhead seating is not required for dog guide users or for any other blind persons to my knowledge. A question I would like to pose to everyone is: In my travels, I haven't ever heard the airlines say that because a person or persons is seated in an exit row they may not be served any alcoholic beverages due to safety reasons. Has anyone else heard this? I think the reason may be that there are millions of business travelers who would howl in protest if such a rule were inplimented while there are only thousands of blind persons who travel. And yet they claim it is for safety reasons that we can't sit in exit rows. Harvey --- msged 2.07 * Origin: The Metairie Point -- New Orleans, LA (1:396/1.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: E1G00000Date: 01/11/97 From: DAVE ANDREWS Time: 03:17pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Another JEWEL in the crown of discri15:17:5601/11/97 From: Dave Andrews Subject: Re: Another JEWEL in the crown of discrimination Well, I visit California, but don't shop there much, so haven't noticed a difference. If you think the midwest is bad, you should go to the east coast. David Andrews David Andrews (dandrews@visi.com) or BBS: (telnet to nfbnet.org) or call (612) 696-1975 Net-Tamer V 1.07 - Registered --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045)