--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: DGC00000Date: 12/07/96 From: PETE DONAHUE Time: 09:07pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: San Antonio Chapter Christmas Dinner From: Pete Donahue Subject: San Antonio Chapter Christmas Dinner Fellow FEderationists and friends, Thje members of the Greater San Antonio Chapter of the National federation of the Blind of texas cordially invite you to our first annual Christmas Dinner to be held on Saturday December 21 from 11 a.m to 4 p.m. at the Camino De Oro Appartments; 130 Camino De Ororoad in San Antonio Texas.The dinner will be held in the clubhouse at the apartment complex. We will be serving up a fine turkey dinner with all the fixings along with Christmas music fellowship and a good time for all. Members that receive this message are reminded that your 1997 membership dues must be paid at this time. Our dues are $6 per year. If you happen to be in the San Antonio Area we once again want to invite you to be with us for this festive occasion. In addition, our monthly chapter meetings are now held the third Saturday of the month from 10 a.m. to noon at the above address. So if your travels take you to our city we encourage you to be our guest at one of our monthly chapter meetings. We will post reminders on nfb-talk and blind-talk to this effect as well. For further information contact: Jim Sofka President, Greater San Antonio Chapter National federationof the blind of Texas 130 Camino De OrroadApt. 408 San Antonio, Texas 78224 (210) 921-2530 E-mail: jsofka@texas.net Peter Donahue Secretary, Greater San Antonio Chapter National Federation of the Blind of Texas --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: DGC00001Date: 12/07/96 From: PETE DONAHUE Time: 09:17pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: jobs and decorations (fwd) From: Pete Donahue Subject: Re: jobs and decorations (fwd) Fellow Federationists and Friends, I thought you might enjoy some more holliday cheer; especially when it makes a statement about the absolute normality of blind persons. Our interests span the spectrum from playing musical instruments to decorating with lights for the Christmas season. Enjoy this holliday magic from Olga Espinola. Happy Hollidays, Peter Donahue ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:16:21 -0500 (EST) From: Olga Espinola Reply-To: access-l@io.org To: access-l@io.org Subject: Re: jobs and decorations Don and I, mostly he did the work, put up lights all across the front of the porch and up the sides of the posts on the porch, up over the porch swing and over the door. Our door has a wreath on it too. And we have a live xmas tree (a Norwegian spruce) which we will plant in the ground after xmas, sitting also on the porch. It's all lit up and decorated with a lighted star at the top and lots of tinsel. Even my flower bed in front of the porch on the lawn has lights around its border, and we put up a star in one of the side windows since our house is on a corner, and some other lights in the back yard strung all over the trees there too. What's more interesting than anything else about all this is that we are among the very few in the neighborhood who have already put up their decoarations. And this whole neighborhood knows we're blind. So I guess by doing it all ourselves we made a statement, huh? One neighbor said to a friend of mine recently, "Oh, yes, I have seen that woman but I didn't think she was blind because when I saw her she was working in her garden. Guess a blind person isn't supposed to be able to do that or something. Live long and prosper. Olga --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: DGC00002Date: 12/06/96 From: MIKE FREEMAN Time: 10:10am \/To: ".DAVID FAUCHEUX" (Read 1 times) Subj: TBT/BBR AND MONITOR TROUB David: I'll grab the Nov-Dec TBT from Marvel and zap it your way. I'll send it as straight ASCII as dunno whether you can handle UUENCODEd binaries. Man, I should think it'll cost you a pretty penny to receive that thing on Compu$erve! Mike Freeman --- PCRR QWK 1.60 --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Pacifier Online Data Service (1:105/101) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: DGD00000Date: 12/07/96 From: PETE DONAHUE Time: 11:19pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: holiday lights From: Pete Donahue Subject: holiday lights Fellow federationists and friends, As we know our interests span the gamet of human experience. We share many common interests such as sports, music, computer hobbies, and so on. But one does not think that blind persons would involve themselves in such persuits as decorating with Christmas Lights. Yet that is what I and my family has done over the past 30 years. In the next few moments I'll tell you how this passtime developed with me and how I as a bline person manage to do this un aided by a sighted person. My biological father was not the kindest of fathers. In fact he physically abused both my mother and I. But occasionally he somehow managed to do something right and acquainting me with a Christmas Tree and it's many decorations, including Christmas Lights was one of them. Actually he almost failed as he tried to come towards me with a string of lights wich to my fragile mind were another instrument of torture and I became very frightened and mother finally made him get away from me with those terrible things. But, mom didn't want me to think of Christmas as a time of year to dread. She told my grandmother, (Nanny) what had happened and leave it to Nanny she knew just how to fix the situation. She put my uncles Ed and Leo to work to help me get over my fear of the Christmas Lights. Slowly but surely this fear bvanished. Mom knew that Nanny's and her work paid off when we were sitting at breakfast one rainy morning and she hung a string of lights in the kitchin and since I can see light and colors I went over to investigate after she plugged them in. I styed near the light string all day long; even when mom turned out all of the kitchin lights leaving only the Christmas lights running I was perfectly content to sit there and watch the lights. But the coup de graw came later when dad brought home our Christmas Tree. To keep my interest mom moved the lights in to the living room whare dad was busy putting the tree in it's stand and un known to me at the time he was also putting other strings of lights on that tree. Soon he took the lights from the lamp and placed them on the tree. After this he moved the tree in to it's posission whare itwouldstay for the Christmas Season. He told me to look towards the tree. and when I did what was at first an un interesting bush dragged in from no whare suddenly came alive and was transformed in to something enchanting and beautiful, straight from the land of sweets or some place like that. In addition to the lights there was a bright star at the top of that tree and a one-of-a-kind stand that also lit up. The stand contained bubble lights, a post war invention orriginally developed as a way to spruce up advertising billboards, but the are much more widely used as Christmas Decorations today. Whatever wrong dad dit to us seemed to be somewhat mitigated at Christmas time. Perhaps he too had a love for this season and wanted to pass it on to me. In fact in 1963 he made me a ceramicChristmas Tree that lit up. It was the type that had a lamp base and the tree fit ovber it. You could glue little plastic bulbs in toholes on the tree itself and when the tre lamp was turned on you would think that all of the individual lights lit up rather than them taking their light from the lamp. We have since had several of these trees. Mom still has one my stepfather bought her in the 1970s. Since that time we have always decorated with lights and I as a vlind person have always enjoyed this traditions thanks to dad. I can give any of yyou who would like to try it for yourself the following hints. Of courst one of the major issues whare we are concedrned is the challange of working with strings containing multi-colored light bulbs. Keep in mind that it is not un heard of tto just decorate using lights of a single color. This seems to be more popular than decorating with multi-colored light strings. More often than not clear or white lights are used since they approximate the light from candles. For someone who has little or no assistance in looking for the corect color bulb that blew out in order to replace it with the corect colored replacement this may be the best way to go. We too have used light strings of a single color when we've wanted to achieve a special effect. You could place a braille label on the string telling what color lights the string contains and lable the container in large print or braille that contains the replacements of that color. By the way, it is a good idea to separate bulbs of different colors and place each color in it's own separate container and label it either in braille or large print. In addition to knowing what color bulb you are dealing with it helps when you must find replacements fast. If you really want to use multi-colored bulbs and can not distinguish colors you can do one of two things. Either have a shighted person help you in replacing blown bulbs or simply just don't let it be a problem. Some people want to keep to a strict color pattern while others will just replace a blown bulb with what ever colored replacement theuy have on hand. In the end it reallydosn't matter. The C5 lights are the Minniature litghts are the most widely useed today, but after much experience and spending at least $100 or more to replace bad strings each year we finally decided to go back to using the c7, and c9 lights; the larger lights which many of us grew up with. Their bulbs are sort of egg shaped. actually they are shaped to approximate the shape of a flaim. And any one who has used these lights knows that they are much easier to work with and they last longer. However, they also require more electricity and if you're not carefull you may find yourself paying a rather high electric bill. The modern c7 and c9 lights have two new safety features that reduce the the wrisk of fires and accidents around the house. First they burn much cooler than they once did. In fact you can even place your hand on a bulb for a a short period of time without being seriously burned. You can tell if a bulb has blown out simply by feeling it. If the bulb feels warm and you know that the set has been running the bulb is working. If the bulb feels cold to the touch it's lown and you need to replace it. I have checked to see if entire light strings are working simply by just feeling a bulb. If it is warm the set is working, but if the bulb is cold something is wrong with either the connection you are using or the ligh string. This brings us to the second safetyy feature of modern Christmas Lights. Both Standard c7, c9, and miniature lights now come with a fuzze that prevents the string from receiving esxcess amperage. Should this happ, you guessed it; the fuze blows. The fuze compartment is located on the end whare the prongs are located for plugging the string in to an outlet. They are housed in a compartment that is accessed by opening a small sliding door on the body of the blug. most light manufacturers include a replacement fuze with each set of lights they sell. The fuzes are quite easy to change. So before you throw a presumed bad set of lights in the garbage try changing the fuze before giving them up as a bad job. We like to run lights along the ground along a border such as a walkway or a fenceline. You can use the border to help you keep a straight line as you streach the lights out along the border whare they will be positioned. Next it is a good idea to get the string up off of the ground away from moysture and mud. You can do this by placing the wire in the hooks of special steaks developed for this perpose and then pushing the steaks about half way in to the ground. When several strings of lights are connected together a gap in the string will appear whare the connection was made as ther are no lights in this area. This will give the string a broken appearance to those who view your display. You can corect this by looping the wire over itself whare the two sets are joijned together and then tying them together with a twistum. Now the string will appear as one continuous string of lights with no breaks. If the break occurrs on a large tree or in an inconspicuous area of your display you need not be concerned about it. The crowning glory of our holiday decorating is putting the lithts on the big peach tree outside of our appartment's master bedroom. It's quite a job climbing up as high as you can go and placing the lights whare you want them to be, but sometimes this too may not be high enough. I will sometimes grab a branch that is just out of reach with the cruck of one of my canes and gently pulling it down to me, placing the light string on it, and slowly letting it return to its normal place. If you let the branch go to fast you may end up either falling off of a ladder if you are on one, as well as a broken branch and ligh string. Be very carefull in doing this. One more note about the peach tree. Several days ago one of our neighbors told us that there was a birds nest up in the tree near whare I had placed one of the light strings. I told them that we'll have to see if ther are birds using it and if they roost there at night when the tree is lit we'll have to get a photograph of that one. That would be a great picture for a Christmas Card for next year. I give you all of that to say that when we as blind persons let our tallents be known either by telling others about them, or simply by showing what we can do whether it be playing a musical instrument, working in a faborite material such as wood, meatle, clay, painting,or in our case working with Christmas Lights we can make visable statements as to what we can do if given the opportunity to proove our abilities and tallents. This is also true of those who work at a certain job, or are attending an educational institution in a course of study thought un immaginable for a blind person. remember that when a blid artist creates a paintingj alth he/she may not be able to see their handy work the blind artist takes satisfaction in the joy his/her creation can bring to a sighted viewer, or bbetter yet a prospective buyer. Likewise even if you yourself may not be able to see Christmas lights think of the joy they bring to your family members, your neighbors, and others who have the opportunity to see your holiday creations. If you have ever had an interest in dedcorating with Christmas Lights I strongly encourage you to do so. I will mention before I go that you can also get forms for various Christmas figures such as angels, Santa Claus, snowmen, and others. Just wind a string of lights or two around the outline of the figure and voalla, you have a holiday creation you can display on a wall, on your roof, or you can stake it in the ground. in fact you could erect a whole sceen using these figures. If you look hard enough you may be able to find a manger sceen that lights up too. Anyway let's take up the challange and let's go spreadsome holiday cheer Nfb Style. Take care and happy holidays. Yours truly, peter Donahue --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: DGF00000Date: 12/10/96 From: MICKEY QUENZER Time: 10:43am \/To: PETE DONAHUE (Read 1 times) Subj: holiday lights Hello Pete. Replying to a msg dated 07 Dec 96 23:19, from Pete Donahue to All. Thanks for that inspirational message. I'm glad to see that you got over that problem with the lights. Anyway, thanks again! ******* Mickey Quenzer ******* --- UNREG * Origin: Central Valley EchoHub (1:143/1300)-The S.C.B.U.G. BBS-( (1:143/237) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: DGF00001Date: 12/10/96 From: PETE DONAHUE Time: 05:36pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: NFB to EIN (fwd) From: Pete Donahue Subject: NFB to EIN (fwd) Fellow federationists and friends, I just wanted to share this message with those on these lists. I hope I am not sending you a duplicate message, but on the other hand i don't know why it wasn't posted here to begin with. peter donahue ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:20:13 -0500 From: Pittsburgh visually Impaired Computer To: Multiple recipients of list BLIND-L Subject: NFB to EIN The EIN will discuss blind access at its meeting Thursday night. Here is a letter from NFB to the EIN. The chairperson of the EIN is : Mary K. Biagini Associate Dean and Editor, School Library Media Quarterly School of Information Sciences University of Pittsburgh 135 N. Bellefield Ave. Pittsburgh PA 15260 Voice: 412-624-5230 Fax: 412-624-5231 e-mail mkb@sis.pitt.edu >From woods@dns.city-net.comTue Dec 10 12:04:13 1996 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:51:46 EST From: woods@dns.city-net.com Subject: NFBP resolution concerning EIN Connie Woods President, Greater Pittsburgh Chapter National Federation of the Blind of Pennsylvania Midtown Towers Pittsburgh, PA 15222 (412) 562-0372 woods@dns.city-net.com December 9, 1996 The Greater Pittsburgh Chapter is an integral part of the National Federation of the Blind of Pennsylvania. Our purpose is to promote the social and economic welfare of all blind persons. I have read the mission statement of the Electronic Information Network of Allegheny County which outlines a plan to provide equal access to electronic information for all county residents. In addition, I have read the EIN Report which illustrates the many benefits of Internet access, i.e. employment, education, social services, entertainment and health. One can only be impressed by the wealth of knowledge one can attain when afforded the opportunity to explore "the information highway". Like every county resident, we pay taxes and it is our right to expect service provided to "all" residents to include the blind as well. Providing electronic information access to the blind is readily achievable based upon the financial resources of the EIN, which exceed $10 million. A wide variety of assistive technology hardware and software is available, and the blind use a number of screen readers, speech synthesizers, print enlargement software, and Braille devices to access information on the screen. We suggest that you contact the National Federation of the Blind Technology Center co-ordinator, Richard Ring, for ore details. The number to call is (410) 659-9314. The attached resolution, passed at our recent convention, supports our view that such an enhancement of library services in Allegheny County is a critical issue to blind citizens. Neglecting this matter can only serve to further diminish the ability of blind people to work and participate in our society. Since the EIN was aware of this issue prior to this letter, it is not unreasonable to expect a response within 30 days. Sincerely, Connie Woods President, Greater Pittsburgh Chapter NFBP Whereas a group of individuals formed an organization called The electronic Information Network of Allegheny County, and whereas the purpose of this organization is to provide electronic access to under served residents of allegheny County with regard to all library services, and whereas through private and public funds they raised over $10 million and plan to use this money to place over 1100 computers in county libraries; and where as since 1994 the blind community has consistently expressed interest and concern about the need to make the entire system accessible; and Whereas to date the EIN has made no concrete plans, commitments or progress toward addressing the concerns of the blind community in this matter; and Whereas the Americans with Disabilities Act requires that public entities assure equal access to it systems; and where as funds were raised to benefit all under served residence in Allegheny County, and, blind persons surely qualify as "under served" given the difficulty of accessing the print media; now, therefore, be it Resolved by the National federation of The blind of Pennsylvania in convention assembled this 10th day of November 1996 in the City of Harrisburg that: 1. We support the efforts of the Greater Pittsburgh Chapter to do everything necessary to rectify this situation; 2. That a copy of this resolution and a letter be sent to the members of the board of the EIN and the county commissioners giving them thirty days to provide us with a plan to remedy the situation. 3. If they fail to respond in a positive way, along with our Greater Pittsburgh Chapter this organization will file a complaint with the Pennsylvania Human relations Commission and the US Department of Justice, alleging a violation of both Pennsylvania law and the Americans with Disabilities Act. and 4. This organization will do everything necessary to remedy this situation including acquiring an attorney to file an action in the courts. --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: DGF00002Date: 12/10/96 From: PETE DONAHUE Time: 10:39pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: setting an example From: Pete Donahue Subject: setting an example Fellow Federationists and Friends, Lillian Ackley's post of earlier today made me think of an insident that took place last spring when Mary and I along with Jim Sofka, our chapter president hosted a meeting of one of those, (Support groups for the blind) hosted by the San Antonio Indipendant Living Center, (SAILS.) At that particular meeting we showed the film, That the Blind mayread, a film that deals with the Braille crysis in America. One of those in attendance was a member of the Blinded veteran's Association, (BVA.) He was an 80-year-old man who kept telling us about the wonderfull training he was given by the V.A. The truth of the matter was that he did not know Braille, and he had to have his wife help him in to the room and find him a seat As the meeting dragged on he kept telling us about the great training he had from the V.A. When we had had enough we asked him if their training was so good why was he not taught Braille, and the proper use of a white cane? If their training was so good why was it necessary for him to have his wife help him find a seat. If he had had proper travel training he should have been able to get around by himself and let his wife go about her own persuits and not have to act as his guide dog? He refused to answer these questions. Finally we got around to talking about our training centers and about the quallity training they provide to blind persons; not just in blindness skills but training in developing a positive attitude towards blindness and learning that it's ok to be blind. He shot back byy offering to take any literature we could give him to other BVA members who might benefit from such a programme. He wasn't ready for our response to that idea. WE told him that rather than just take our pamphlets to his members he should really seriously think about enrolling in one of our centers himself, completing the training, and then sell the idea to his buddies. He would then be an example of they could become if they got this kind of training. He told us that he was too old. Boy, I wish he could have been in Anaheim last summer when the 80-year-old woman from Collorado spoke about rock climbing. Thos who were there will remember that this lady was enrolled in the Collorado Center for the Blind. I am sure she could have given him something to think long and hard about. After once more asking us for some literature to take to his friends in the BVA we decided we had had enough. We finally told him that the best thing he could do if he expected to convince his buddies that attending one of our centers was worth while that he needed to attend one of them himself in order to be a better ambassador for what can be gained by completing such a programme. We refused to give him any literature but told him that if he wanted to see blind persons obtain the highest quallity training he needed to get the training himself before trying to sell the idea to others. We told him, "Don't just be a pamphlet peddler. Go and get this training yourself and you will be better able tto promote our training programmes to others. Your example will say far more to them than all of the pamphlets he could give them!" After that meeting Mary told Sails that she would no longer host a group that was going to be noghing more than a place for blind peeople to come and cry the blues out. rather, she wanted to see such support groups do things that are worth while and will help blind persons get back what they may think blindness took from them. The group has since disbanded. We don't know what ever happened to this gentlemam but we hope he is doing well whare ever he is. Just some food for thought from South Texas. Take care and have a good evening. Yours truly, Peter Donahue --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: DGF00003Date: 12/10/96 From: VISUALLY.IMPAIRED.PITTSBURGH.AREA.C Time: 10:53pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: NFBP resolution concerning EIN (fwd) (Fo22:53:5112/10/96 From: Visually.Impaired.Pittsburgh.Area.Computer.Enthusiasts!@visi.com Subject: NFBP resolution concerning EIN (fwd) (Forward) The Electronic Information Network is in the process of installing 1,100 computers for public use in public libraries in our county. There is currently no plan to provide even one which is accessible by the blind. Here is a letter and resolution by NFB on the issue. This project is a national model and might be duplicated in your city. If you agree that blind people should have access to public computers, you can show your support by sending e-mail to the EIN using the address ein@clpgh.org or contacting the EIN board at : Mary K. Biagini Associate Dean and Editor, School Library Media Quarterly School of Information Sciences University of Pittsburgh 135 N. Bellefield Ave. Pittsburgh PA 15260 Voice: 412-624-5230 Fax: 412-624-5231 e-mail mkb@sis.pitt.edu The EIN has agreed to discuss this matter at its board meeting on December12, so we would appreciate your taking a few minutes to phone or write. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:51:46 EST From: woods@dns.city-net.com Subject: NFBP resolution concerning EIN Connie Woods President, Greater Pittsburgh Chapter National Federation of the Blind of Pennsylvania Midtown Towers Pittsburgh, PA 15222 (412) 562-0372 woods@dns.city-net.com December 9, 1996 The Greater Pittsburgh Chapter is an integral part of the National Federation of the Blind of Pennsylvania. Our purpose is to promote the social and economic welfare of all blind persons. I have read the mission statement of the Electronic Information Network of Allegheny County which outlines a plan to provide equal access to electronic information for all county residents. In addition, I have read the EIN Report which illustrates the many benefits of Internet access, i.e. employment, education, social services, entertainment and health. One can only be impressed by the wealth of knowledge one can attain when afforded the opportunity to explore "the information highway". Like every county resident, we pay taxes and it is our right to expect service provided to "all" residents to include the blind as well. Providing electronic information access to the blind is readily achievable based upon the financial resources of the EIN, which exceed $10 million. A wide variety of assistive technology hardware and software is available, and the blind use a number of screen readers, speech synthesizers, print enlargement software, and Braille devices to access information on the screen. We suggest that you contact the National Federation of the Blind Technology Center co-ordinator, Richard Ring, for ore details. The number to call is (410) 659-9314. The attached resolution, passed at our recent convention, supports our view that such an enhancement of library services in Allegheny County is a critical issue to blind citizens. Neglecting this matter can only serve to further diminish the ability of blind people to work and participate in our society. Since the EIN was aware of this issue prior to this letter, it is not unreasonable to expect a response within 30 days. Sincerely, Connie Woods President, Greater Pittsburgh Chapter NFBP Whereas a group of individuals formed an organization called The electronic Information Network of Allegheny County, and whereas the purpose of this organization is to provide electronic access to under served residents of allegheny County with regard to all library services, and whereas through private and public funds they raised over $10 million and plan to use this money to place over 1100 computers in county libraries; and where as since 1994 the blind community has consistently expressed interest and concern about the need to make the entire system accessible; and Whereas to date the EIN has made no concrete plans, commitments or progress toward addressing the concerns of the blind community in this matter; and Whereas the Americans with Disabilities Act requires that public entities assure equal access to it systems; and where as funds were raised to benefit all under served residence in Allegheny County, and, blind persons surely qualify as "under served" given the difficulty of accessing the print media; now, therefore, be it Resolved by the National federation of The blind of Pennsylvania in convention assembled this 10th day of November 1996 in the City of Harrisburg that: 1. We support the efforts of the Greater Pittsburgh Chapter to do everything necessary to rectify this situation; 2. That a copy of this resolution and a letter be sent to the members of the board of the EIN and the county commissioners giving them thirty days to provide us with a plan to remedy the situation. 3. If they fail to respond in a positive way, along with our Greater Pittsburgh Chapter this organization will file a complaint with the Pennsylvania Human relations Commission and the US Department of Justice, alleging a violation of both Pennsylvania law and the Americans with Disabilities Act. and 4. This organization will do everything necessary to remedy this situation including acquiring an attorney to file an action in the courts. --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: DGF00004Date: 12/10/96 From: PETE DONAHUE Time: 11:21pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: holiday lights From: Pete Donahue Subject: Re: holiday lights Hello Mickey, Yup, I whipped that fear in no time, and have been blessed many times over. Now if I can just catch some kids who like to steal light bulbs I will once more be picken in high cotton. When the bulbs are thrown on pavement they poplike a firecracker. The kids get a charge out of the noise. The least thing they could do is ask me to save them some spent bulbs for themto play this sick game. Decoration vandelism ws a big problem in massachusetts whare I am from and it seems to have made it's way here at last. If our appartment manager has her way and the same with me it won't last for long.j Take care and happy hollidays. Yours truly, Peter Donahue --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 233 NFB BLIND NEWS Ref: DGG00000Date: 12/11/96 From: DARRELL SHANDROW Time: 02:31pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: setting an example From: Darrell Shandrow Subject: Re: setting an example Don't you think this was a bit of a hard-line approach to this old guy? I do agree with attempting to get him to attend one of our centers. However, it would have been nice to go ahead and give him some literature on the NFB and our centers so that he would have contact info when he changed his mind. Now, he probably has a poor attitude about the Federation, thinking that we are radicals. If he does change his mind now, he won't know where to go for help from us. We might want to think about these things when we approach people out in this big old world. Let's try to take everyone at their individual levels of preparedness to change. Regards, Darrell Shandrow [http://www.qfi.org] Technology Specialist, Colorado Center for the Blind I am not representing the CCB. This is just me... Changing what it means to be blind every day and in every way! --- * Origin: NFBnet <--> Internet Email Gateway (1:282/1045)