--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EGD00003 Date: 12/08/97 From: PAUL KARPINSKY Time: 12:29pm \/To: HARRIET LEVY (Read 0 times) Subj: drugs Everyone I know drinks too much because it's supposedly "cool". It pisses me off. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: BitByters BBS, Rockland ON, Can. (613)446-7773 v34, (1:163/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EGD00004 Date: 12/08/97 From: PAUL KARPINSKY Time: 12:31pm \/To: HARRIET LEVY (Read 0 times) Subj: drugs You can be spiritual without believing in god. It's very easy. I don't want to get into explaining it right now, maybe later. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: BitByters BBS, Rockland ON, Can. (613)446-7773 v34, (1:163/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EGD00005 Date: 12/08/97 From: PAUL KARPINSKY Time: 12:32pm \/To: HARRIET LEVY (Read 0 times) Subj: Paul? Time will tell me what time it is and that's about it. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: BitByters BBS, Rockland ON, Can. (613)446-7773 v34, (1:163/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EGD00006 Date: 12/08/97 From: STATELINER Time: 10:10am \/To: MATRIKA (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: personal upheavals M> re - I have to be grateful that I quit drinking 6 years ago - I feel M> the same way, if I wasn't clean and sober now, I definitely would not M> be handling this stuff and the other challenges I've been facing in M> life well at all. Sobriety allows me to live life on life's terms - M> even when it's not what I would have it to be. I agree this illness can be bad enough without drinking.. Hey I finally got the Fibro base see you over there also. My Al-anon meeting is tonight not that I don't need one.. I was dealing craps Sat. and Sun. with lots of drinking going on. I drank coffee and water.. special@futureone.com http://www.futureone.com/~special --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: |14Acme Cafe BBS! (602)838-0712 (1:114/508) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EGD00007 Date: 12/08/97 From: STATELINER Time: 10:15am \/To: MATRIKA (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Paul? M> re - when things are calm, I believe something is wrong - and that is M> why I believe I was involved deeply with 3 alcoholic and/or drug M> addicted men, before my current sober husband. My early childhood with M> a mother who took prescription phenobarbitol like candy - and somehow M> never seemed to run out - and who got abusive, verbally and sometimes M> even physically about once a month or so, well the 3 previous men in M> my life were familiar chaos to me, which I mistook for love. Just like M> that old song "looking for love in all the wrong places", know what I M> mean? My mother has some mental problems and has been on drugs for about 30 yrs. Twice she had to be put in a straight jacket.. No wonder my step-father drank so much. Thank God I never married a alcholic, my wife is a work alcoholic, not as bad. special@futureone.com http://www.futureone.com/~special --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: |14Acme Cafe BBS! (602)838-0712 (1:114/508) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EGD00008 Date: 12/08/97 From: STATELINER Time: 10:16am \/To: PAUL KARPINSKY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Paul? PK> Nah. I won't need to remember any of this material when I am older. Believe PK> on this one. Yeah right.... special@futureone.com http://www.futureone.com/~special --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: |14Acme Cafe BBS! (602)838-0712 (1:114/508) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EGD00009 Date: 12/08/97 From: STATELINER Time: 10:17am \/To: MARIE WEIDEMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: drugs MW> Thank you...it was a good Thanksgiving..I have much to be thankful for.. MW> I hope yours was a good one too.. Yeah we had a great Thanksgiving also. I thought all week about what I had o be thankful for came up with a large list... special@futureone.com http://www.futureone.com/~special --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: |14Acme Cafe BBS! (602)838-0712 (1:114/508) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EGD00010 Date: 12/08/97 From: STATELINER Time: 10:22am \/To: HARRIET LEVY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: drugs HL> And then there are all of us for whom drinking was a right of passage HL> condoned by our parents. HL> HL> That sets up a whole 'nuther scenario Yeah, my grandmother used to make homemade wine and I use to steal some and would party with my friends.. I then graduated to beer, our parents would lets us have drinking parties on New Year's eve. Then of course the hard tuff came out.. I use to love Black Berry Brandy. special@futureone.com http://www.futureone.com/~special --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: |14Acme Cafe BBS! (602)838-0712 (1:114/508) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EGE00000 Date: 12/09/97 From: CHRISTINA FIELDS Time: 09:33pm \/To: EDWARD SOTT (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Paul? From out of the Darkness, Edward Sott spoke: HL> PK> Nah. I won't need to remember any of this material when I am older. HL> PK> Believe me on this one. HL> HL> Time will tell, won't it. ES> Boy I can remember saying similar when I was a teen. I can drink ES> without any problems. I know how to handle my liquor, This drug won't ES> do anything to me. ad nauseum. I don't have a drinking problem, I ES> drink, get drunk, fall down, no problem. ES> But As you have said it took time telling differently. I'll never forget the first time I realized I had a problem...I got up one morning and realized I was in my dorm room, looked out my window and my car was in the parking lot. I knew I had driven back to campus, but I couldn't remember where I had been, what I had been doing or how I got home. What a wake up call. --- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 * Origin: Stop by and Waste Away! (717) 957-3108 (1:270/715) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EGE00001 Date: 12/09/97 From: CHRISTINA FIELDS Time: 09:33pm \/To: STATELINER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Paul? From out of the Darkness, Stateliner spoke: M> re - when things are calm, I believe something is wrong - and that is M> why I believe I was involved deeply with 3 alcoholic and/or drug M> addicted men, before my current sober husband. My early childhood with St> My mother has some mental problems and has been on drugs for about 30 St> yrs. Twice she had to be put in a straight jacket.. No wonder my St> step-father drank so much. Thank God I never married a alcholic, my St> wife is a work alcoholic, not as bad. I'm glad I didn't marry an alcoholic or drug addict...however, I did marry a computer-aholic...sometimes those types of addictions can have the same effects on relationships that alcohol and drugs have. --- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 * Origin: Stop by and Waste Away! (717) 957-3108 (1:270/715)