--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EAQ00001 Date: 06/20/97 From: MATRIKA Time: 11:30am \/To: RICK BALDWIN (Read 0 times) Subj: Sponsorees re - mountains - YES !!!! I sure can agree with that. Or immerse myself in the Atlantic. --- TriToss (tm) Professional 11.0 - #66 * Origin: Keystone BBS * Shrewsbury, MA * 508-753-3767 (1:322/743.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EAQ00002 Date: 06/20/97 From: GAZOO Time: 03:28pm \/To: BETTY B (Read 0 times) Subj: Thank You ! ;-) Hello Betty! I'll be sure to call on whoever is willing to help. Thank you for your support Betty. TTYL GazOo --- * Origin: Ottawa,Ontario,Canada (1:163/403.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EAR00000 Date: 06/20/97 From: HAROLD DUGGAN Time: 05:22pm \/To: GAZOO (Read 0 times) Subj: Greetings... waz up GazOo? How has recovery been treating you and how has it changed? Me at that point, I was in about three hundered moods at the same time and no cork to jam them all down with. I don't know if your finding that a problem. I found that once I got rid of the drugs and booze I wasn't uch a nice guy when I was sober. I was getting down right mean infact because it seemed that everything was going against me. Then about ten or so minutes later I was in my super happy mood for abit and then I was depressed. if you are finding this a problem don't worry, it gets much better. I was at a meeting last night where we were talking about things we were grateful for in recovery. it was very good to sit and listen to all the things that people were grateful for and how their lives were turning around. As well a friend was celabrating a birthday, his seventh, and it was good to see everyone so inspired and happy for him. Thanks for writing back. I'm going to be here all summer, and I am going to try to get hooked up with this again in the fall when I go to school so we can corespond like this for a good while. One day at a time and keep coming back Gaz! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Communicate Now - Night Wolf BBS (78:519/400) (1:221/1002) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EAR00001 Date: 06/20/97 From: MICHAEL KASZETA Time: 10:28pm \/To: TREE WALSH (Read 0 times) Subj: WELCOME Hi Tree, interesting name youve chosen. Ever read the Celestine Prophecy. Lot of strentgh from trees and all of Gods creations! I was reading through the recent messages and saw your commwents on the humor of G. Having not read the "joke" itself I can and wouldn't make my opinion known. However, I agree with part of what you said in reference to checking motives. I was wondering at the strentgh of your response! Seems to have some resentment in there. Did this trigger a past event that is exorciseing this defect? The man did apologise for offending you. You don't seem to accept though that his opinion of the "humor" has not changed. I've found that there is only one that I have any ability to change and that's me. HP granted self will so others as well as myself can chose his will or ours. After years of trying Mikes program to change the world to fit me. I found I was the one who needed change. Only been at it a short while, this program works if I let myself take HP direction. Forgive and Let Go. Big hard pills to swallow but necessary for recovery. My two cents, so to speak --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: DelaMarPenn MicroNet -+- Newark, Delaware (1:150/115) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EAS00000 Date: 06/22/97 From: GAZOO Time: 03:10pm \/To: HAROLD DUGGAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Hi Harold Hello Harold! Thanks for taking the time to writh ! :-) It turns out that I find allot of confert in reading other peoples experiences and idea. I guess it's truw what they say; It takes one to know one... ... In your last posted message address to me, you were shearing the fellings you had when you first stoped using. And you also sayd something to the effect that things will get better... I can't see it any other way ! ;-) Don't get me wrong, I'm doing very, very well at this time. It's tommorow that scaires the day lights out of me!.. You see, I've falled at just about everything I've setout to accomplish in life. And so, I don't fell to sure about myself. Understandingly so! ;-) My sister and her husben are more then supportive, and I know that once I move into my own appartment, the very real questions will arise. Showing it's agly face(S). I fear that I will not have the strank and will to overcome those deficult times ahead. I've heard it sayd meny times before, " One day at a time". I can't see a better time to put that into practice! ;-) Sure hope my faith is going to be with me on this one. I know and belive that I can't do it alone. Never the least, I'm happy to have the challenge and I thank my lucky stars that I'm not alone to overcome my demons. So I really just wanted to say thanks for letting me know that you plan on being here for me... It may just prove to be the helping hand I need if I'm ever going to overcome. Thank You Harold ! :-) GazOo --- * Origin: Ottawa,Ontario,Canada (1:163/403.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EAS00001 Date: 06/22/97 From: GAZOO Time: 03:45pm \/To: TREE WALSH (Read 0 times) Subj: Hallo Hello Tree! Just wanted to say Hi and to see how you were getting along. I hope your having a good summer, and hope to chat somemore with you in the near future... Please fell free to express any idea or fellings you may have with me. I injoy hearing from other a great deal, and so, any indeference of oppinion you may have will be respected. Of course, anything you find command would also be excepted. I'll be looking for your reply. Thank You GazOo --- * Origin: Ottawa,Ontario,Canada (1:163/403.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EAT00000 Date: 06/22/97 From: STATELINER Time: 06:20pm \/To: MARIE WEIDEMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: First things first MW> Ah...well, I am not that big of a football fan so that is why I was not MW> aware of the location...I watch it once in awhile, but I much prefer to MW> watch baseball...:) I used to be a big Phillies fan.. I still followed them but waiting for the franshise here in Az to play next season.. MW> I am glad to hear that..These programs are so very helpful to people.. MW> they give them a chance to get the help they need, no matter what the MW> problem is...it just takes the effort to get to a meeting.. MW> Yeah I have a webpage and I have many links to recovery webpages. I was suprised by the # of recovery pages out there.. The Al-anon world service office is now running there own page, and they have some of the pamblets and the forum on it... Yes I keep coming back.. state@juno.com special@futureone.com http://www.futureone.com/~special --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: |14Acme Cafe BBS! (602)838-0712 (1:114/508) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EAU00000 Date: 06/24/97 From: MARIE WEIDEMANN Time: 12:12am \/To: GAZOO (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Something Clicked ;- Gazoo - The wind whispered your name to me... Ga> I just wanted to say thanks for your messages and for the way you Ga> sheared them with me... I also want to let you know that I'v not had a Ga> drink for two weeks now and that I'm doing very well. I have moments in Ga> the sun that I wonder if I really want to stop drinking... But I know Ga> that I'll also have moments in are cold winter were I'll have Ga> temptations, so I try not to give drinking to much thought... One of my Ga> sayings in life has been, ingnore it and it will go away ;-)... Of Ga> course I'm not sure if it apply's here. Ga> Take care and keep me in your thoughts. ;-) I am glad to hear that it has been two weeks since your last drink..that is great...Congradulations..and if you get temepted to drink just get on the computer and post away to all of us...it may help to curb the desire. And if ignoring the temptation helps, then by all means, do it..Whatever works for you... Good luck and remember, we are here to talk if you need us... Light, Love and Laughter Marie - Starwitch ... Noble deeds and hot baths are the best cures for depression. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Phoenix Rising*Wilkes-Barre PA*Starwitch (717)822-2017 (1:268/442) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EAU00001 Date: 06/24/97 From: MARIE WEIDEMANN Time: 04:05am \/To: TREE WALSH (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: WELCOME Tree Walsh - The wind whispered your name to me... TW> welcome... TW> I'm Tree and I have 47 months clean and sober. I't usually pretty TW> quiet around here I find...but I keep surfing by to see who's here. Welcome Tree...Congradulations on 47 months of being clean and sober.. I am sure you could tell us a few good stories about your recovery.. If you would like to, please feel free..this way, you won't have to stay quiet... Light, Love and Laughter Marie - Starwitch Moderator of Recovery Echo.. ... Reality is for those who can't handle Star Trek. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Phoenix Rising*Wilkes-Barre PA*Starwitch (717)822-2017 (1:268/442) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: EAY00000 Date: 06/24/97 From: MARIE WEIDEMANN Time: 10:19pm \/To: HAROLD DUGGAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hello Again Harold Duggan - The wind whispered your name to me... HD> Good to here from you! I'm a little short on time, but I am rather HD> compulsive about returning so here I am Glad to have you back...whenever you feel the need to talk. HD> I guess It might seem a little weird that somebody would focus HD> so much on God at a recovery channel. Actually to me it doesn't, but I HD> am not sure what others do talk about, I guess "other recovery issues. HD> I have become acutely aware that I have my recovery based upon my HD> spritual condition, and my spiritual condition is based upon my HD> relationship with God. It is only God that can right my spiritual HD> sickness. For me, the origin of every recovery issue , problem, HD> difficulty, defect, whatever is an unwillingness to practice step HD> three. Every problem I have with myself or others is a reflection of HD> my self will run riot. If acceptance is that key to all my problems it HD> is acceptance of God's will for me and others, not acceptance merely of HD> the situation. I have always felt that some people need to have a special relationship with their HP to help them stay sober...and since this echo is to be used to help in recovery, we talk about whatever is important to the person..the only thing I ask is that we accept each others view of the Creator..because we each see things differently..there are other things to talk about too and other people will prefer to talk them.. HD> I get some weird looks and comments like fanatical for my HD> beliefs, but it doesn't seem to phase me at all. I have been rocketed HD> into the forth dimension of existance of which we have never known HD> existed as the Bid Book says. I am driven by a new force today, I don't see you as fanatical because you seem to allow others to view their HP as they see it.. HD> inspired by a new force, governed by a new force. I'm not exactly sure HD> why I am telling you this except its what my fingers are typing. Then you have some need to share this...and that is what this echo is for... HD> At work the other day my boss was going on about how nobody HD> can prove the existance of God and that nobody knows for HD> sure...nobodies seen and I just turned and looked at him and I said HD> I've seen and I know. He said "what?" and I repeated myself because its HD> true.. I have seen his hand in everything I have done in my recovery HD> and much more still. My boss just stood and stared into my eyes as if HD> to check my sanity and I couldn't even look down or away if I had HD> wanted to. Its a good thing we have a good relationship and he knows HD> me abit or it might not have ended so uneventful, but thats the kind of HD> thing I get from people. Its a little disheartening knowing that there HD> is absolutly nothing I can do but live the Christian life for myself HD> and that nothing I ever say will convince anyone. Kind of like carrying HD> the AA message through the walk. I guess the convincing part is Gods HD> job. God Bless you and keep you well and thank you again for HD> providing this mailing service. I see relationships with the Creator in the same light I see recovery.. There are some that will accept the message and some that will not..It is all up to the individual...there are many people out there that are still drinking and will die that way..but that is the way it is..until *IF* and *WHEN* they decide to stop drinking...and it is the same with the HP...people will believe *IF* and *WHEN* they are ready..Sometimes the best thing is to teach by example...not with words.. Stop back in whenever you feel the need...There will always be someone here to answer your posts...Stay well..and keep coming back... Light, Love and Laughter Marie - Starwitch ... A thing of beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Phoenix Rising*Wilkes-Barre PA*Starwitch (717)822-2017 (1:268/442)