--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: E1C00002 Date: 01/07/97 From: MARIE WEIDEMANN Time: 02:41am \/To: TIM DILL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Can I MW> I am sure he's okay and Tom seems to be doing a good job as MW> co-moderator. First, let me apoligize for getting your name wrong...I have no excuse other than being me.....sorry, I meant that you, Tim, were doing a good job...... TD> okay, I may be mistaken but this is the latest update that I have TD> taken from the elist701.txt TD> | O | ECHOLIST TD> | O | | | The EchoMail Conference List TD> | | | O | MASTER REPORT TD> | O | | | TD> | | | O | 01 Jan 97 TD> ELIST701.TXT | O | | | TD> | | RECOVERY TD> !!! DELETE WARNING !!! TD> 12 Step Oriented Chatting TD> For chatting (and light sharing) among those members (or TD> others interested in a positive way) of 12 step oriented TD> groups. Much the kind of chatting one would hear before or TD> after meetings and/or during coffee breaks. TD> Origin: TD> Distribution: TD> Gateways: TD> Language: TD> # Nodes: Volume: Rules: TD> Flags: TD> Moderators: Rich Ward, 1;102/749.7 TD> Last changed: 11 Jul 96 by Richard Ward, 1:102/749 TD> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX TD> XXXXX TD> Now I am NOT a moderator here... and I have not been since the 11th of TD> July last year... if this listing expires I will pick up the reins and TD> promptly give it over to someone else preferably with a RELIABLE feed, TD> netmail ability and who happens to be in or aware of the 12 Step TD> recovery process... TD> but I still remain a "Moderator Emeritus" or _Former Assistant_ TD> Moderator here... That was not the person who sent me netmail...I wonder if it was my NEC Tom that sent something and I just *assumed* it was from the moderator of this echo....and you know what happens when someone assumes...:( TD> Tim... TD> BTW I sent you email via starwitch1@aol.com from my TD> tim.dill@278-320.usbbs.com address... have you seen it? Yes, and I answered it...You should have it by now..but if you didn't, I save your post so I can reanswer....the modem gods seem to be having fun.. Light, Love and Laughter Marie - Starwitch ... All people smile in the same language. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: PHOENIX RISING BBS *SYSOP STARWITCH* 822-2017 (1:268/442) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: E1C00003 Date: 01/07/97 From: DEAN POWER Time: 09:56am \/To: MATRIKA (Read 0 times) Subj: Seasoning hi,thought i was real alone feb. will be 9yrs. in rec. did it all but sec. just am put out to pasture!! now it's either go to district or die.hell of a dicision maybe a lots o first step meetings will help.now i'm babbleing so i'll dissapear again. hope to hear from all you good folks happy sober new year to all --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Covenant Family BBS, Tacoma, WA (206)846-3852 (1:138/228) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: E1C00004 Date: 01/07/97 From: MARIE WEIDEMANN Time: 06:01pm \/To: MATRIKA (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Can I Ma> re - I'm sure he's okay - I hope his hard drive didn't crash or some Ma> such horrible computerized fate. Computers, bah humbug. True, computers do tend to have a mind of their own....:) Things will work out with this echo, I am sure... Light, Love and Laughter Marie ... Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: PHOENIX RISING BBS *SYSOP STARWITCH* 822-2017 (1:268/442) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: E1C00005 Date: 01/07/97 From: MARIE WEIDEMANN Time: 06:01pm \/To: MATRIKA (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hi, Everyone. I'm new Ma> We were talking about other, lunar, New Years - Chinese and Jewish Ma> particularly - and I thought I was posting it on the interfaith echo. Ma> It sounds like you did have a fun, sober, New Year's eve - we went Ma> out to dinner on New Year's eve and I made my sober alkie's new year's Ma> drink for myself and him. He'd never tried it before and he liked it. Yep, it was a nice quiet evening spent with some good friends and family members... Ma> I like this particular drink because it's a grown up soft drink and it Ma> looks like a hard drink or close enough, that most folks won't bug you Ma> over your not drinking. What it is is 1/2 Welch's brand WHITE Grape Ma> juice mixed with 1/2 sparkling water - like Perrier's or Pellagrino's. Ma> It is not as sweet as normal soft drinks, which is why I call it a Ma> "grown up" soft drink. I love the stuff. I don't remember how I Ma> came up with the recipe - I believe from somebody else, but I don't Ma> remember who. Sounds neat. I like White Grape Juice.. I don't have a problem if people know I don't have a "hard drink"...My husband would order a soda and if anyone would give him a look, he would just say "I don't drink"..never had a problem, most of the people in the place we would stop in to play pool knew he didn't drink...Lots of times when I am out socially, I order just plain Orange Juice or Tomato Juice...You need to use whatever works for you.. Ma> Anyways, I've got some exciting news - I have my JUNO address. The Ma> one I gave on interfaith is actually my husband's account, but he has Ma> since set up another account for me - Matrika#Juno.com. I believe you Ma> had asked me if I had internet e-mail, well I FINALLY do have it. You mean Matrika@juno.com...must remember to use the @ in the address... Okay, kid, I will send a post your way and we can talk about all the things we can't here.....:) Light, Love and Laughter Marie ... I multitask ... I read in the bathroom. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: PHOENIX RISING BBS *SYSOP STARWITCH* 822-2017 (1:268/442) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: E1C00006 Date: 01/07/97 From: TIM DILL Time: 07:32am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Expiration Warning On (05 Jan 97) Southern Star was mumbling to All... I just saved the echo.. and relisted it with the elist.... However I will NOT be the moderator very long... The users here have exactly thirty days from this point to come up with a Moderator... Let the elections begin... Tim Dill Moderator Recovery Emeritus --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Trudging the road in Brooklyn N.Y. (1:116/3000.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: E1D00000 Date: 01/08/97 From: MATRIKA Time: 12:18pm \/To: DEAN POWER (Read 0 times) Subj: Seasoning re - now I'm babbling - well I do that all the time, so welcome to the club. I'm glad you're coming up on 9 years. The biggest challenge I've found facing me at this time in my sobriety is keeping it - my memories of my experience as an active alcoholic - green and "remembering when". You know what they say, "S/he who forgets the past is condemned to repeat it" And, for me, that would be easy enough to do as it seems like it was so far away and vague in the bad old days - almost like another life. Keeping myself willing to do what I have to do to take care of myself is essential - yet it becomes harder. I understand now why some old-timers I have heard speak say that with each year of sobriety, they consider themselves that much closer to their next drink, if they don't remain eternally vigillant. I know I still have to remind myself that it's the first drink - the very FIRST one - that would get me drunk and trigger the physical compulsion, no matter how many steps I've taken and no matter how much "recovery" I have in my life. If I'm an alcoholic, as I know I am, I still can't drink IN SAFETY ever. . This is more important than ever for me to remember right now. When I was drining, one of the times I used alcohol to comfort myself was when I was sick - and I have one heck of a "flu" now. In fact it is at these times that are just about the only times I even have a flashing thought pass through my mind of drinking in any positive light. But I used to comfort myself with Ginger Brandy and Wine and use a good cold as an excuse - right up until someone came up with Nyquil - or however it's spelled - and it's generic analogs that are loaded with alcohol, so I didn't NEED booze. I could do it with "medicine". . And, about Babbling, one more thing, in psychotherapy, "babbling" and other free-associative techniques are often employed to help a client get to the root of his/her problems because they often come up, unbidden, to the surface mind from the unconscious. In normal english, this means that babbling MAY be good for your recovery. (Anyway, us babblers have to stick together, right?) --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #66 * Origin: Keystone BBS * Shrewsbury, MA * 508-753-3767 (1:322/743.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: E1D00001 Date: 01/08/97 From: MATRIKA Time: 12:21pm \/To: MARIE WEIDEMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Can I I'm sure things will work out on the echo too - enough of us need recovery to keep it going. And, for me, it wouldn't be some noble purpose of saving the echo for all of you, etc. (GRIN) It would be an even more noble purpose of saving my own a**. (Another GRIN) --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #66 * Origin: Keystone BBS * Shrewsbury, MA * 508-753-3767 (1:322/743.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: E1D00002 Date: 01/08/97 From: MATRIKA Time: 12:27pm \/To: MARIE WEIDEMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hi, Everyone. I'm new re - put the @ in the address - I wonder if anyone knows what the @ is called? Maybe we need to put this on unsolved mysteries, if that T.V. program is still on. (GRIN) . re - white grape juice with perrier - well I don't care anymore if anyone knows I'm not drinking, but there was a time when I did.....so..... this came in handy. Now I just LIKE the taste of it, as a punch. . re - me - I am SO sick, if I don't make sense, just don't mind me. Never mind remembering the @ in matrika@juno.com. I'll be surprised if I remember my name, as in my name is WHO and I'm an alcoholic. But that's okay. As long as I remember the second part of that statement, I'll probably survive it. However, as I said to someone else, for me that's essential and the only time I ever think of booze in a positive way is when I've got a bad cold or flu. This is probably because my birth-mother gave me wine for a cold from before I can remember when, precisely. SO I definitely have to - absolutely have to - remember the latter part of the statment, you know, I'm what'shername and I'm an alcoholic (and an addict). --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #66 * Origin: Keystone BBS * Shrewsbury, MA * 508-753-3767 (1:322/743.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: E1D00003 Date: 01/08/97 From: TIM DILL Time: 07:02am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Expiration Warning On (07 Jan 97) Tim Dill was mumbling to ALL... TD> On (05 Jan 97) Southern Star was mumbling to All... TD> I just saved the echo.. and relisted it with the elist.... TD> However I will NOT be the moderator very long... Yeah less than one day.. seems that Richard changed the elist password on us and neglected to let anyone else know about it... so we are on the BONE exactly until Febuary 1st after that bye bye to the echo unless I can get Adrian Walkers attention via email... Keep ya posted.... --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Trudging the road in Brooklyn N.Y. (1:116/3000.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: E1E00000 Date: 01/09/97 From: MARIE WEIDEMANN Time: 05:26am \/To: HARRIET LEVY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Can I Ma> Oh where oh where has our moderator gone? Oh where oh where can he Ma> be? (I hope he's okay) MW> I am sure he's okay and Tom seems to be doing a good job as MW> co-moderator. HL> Tom???? Tom who??? I know. I made a boo-boo....:) The co-moderator is Tim...I have already appoligized to him.....(hope I got the name right this time).... Light, Love and Laughter Marie ... The Death Star plans are *not* in the main QWK packets... ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: PHOENIX RISING BBS *SYSOP STARWITCH* 822-2017 (1:268/442)