--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D4C00004 Date: 03/23/96 From: KITTY JONES Time: 08:38pm \/To: DANN BROWN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: The Wall DB>Battered and bruised and exhausted, I slowly walk away from THE WALL DB>to get a different perspective. Then I see it. It wasn't a wall DB>at all... DB>It was the end of the next STEP... DB>And as I look behind me, I see that each time my progress was DB>interupted by THE WALL, there was a new STEP to take me to the next DB>level of my Spiritual Journey. The worst that could happen was DB>ALWAYS the best that could happen. DB>I just couldn't see it from where I stood. DB>Moral of the story of THE WALL? DB>Get over it! Hi Dann, I'm an alcoholic and my name is Kitty. Thanks for the story. I got alot out of it, but I have a problem, how do I get over it? I do step back, I do try to do the steps to the best of my ability, but I still feel so depressed and alone. Any suggestions? ___ * POW 1.1 On Trial * GLYSDI --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: PC Emporium BBS * Boca Raton, FL * 407-994-3690 (1:3638/5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D4C00005 Date: 03/23/96 From: KITTY JONES Time: 09:09pm \/To: SHADOWCAT (Read 0 times) Subj: something you said... S >What is "ES&H"??? It's probably something so elemental and S >in front of my face I will groan, but I have thought and S >thought about it (offline) and have to ask. S >All that came into my mind was a silly formula from when I was a kid: S >F U N E X? S >S, V F X. S >F U N E M? S >S, V F M. S >OK, L F M N X! S >Now, I KNOW that isn't what you mean, but I was overcome S >with a need to share this. S >Anyhow, please let me know what ES & H stands for. I'm S >majorly curious, even though I shudder to think it's S >probably so obvious! S >(Que puedo sur ton tonto) S >arriverderci S >a bientot Hi Shadowcat. I'm an alcoholic and my name is Kitty :). ES&H means: Experience, Strength and Hope. Now, can you please explain what the letters you wrote stand for, please. :))). Thanks. ___ * POW 1.1 On Trial * GLYSDI --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: PC Emporium BBS * Boca Raton, FL * 407-994-3690 (1:3638/5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D4C00006 Date: 04/03/96 From: KITTY JONES Time: 10:47pm \/To: KURT J. TISCHER (Read 0 times) Subj: Hello KJ> Hi Kitty, Hi Kurt :)))). KJ>Haven't written or received any messages from you in a KJ>while, so I thought I'd write. I'm glad you did. :) I was having a problem w/getting messages. KJ> How ya doin'? I've been doing ok. I met this guy about 2 weeks ago and he seems really nice. I'm just afraid to get hurt again. I've been just taking it one day at a time. :) KJ>Me? I'm alright, life is getting tougher on some ends and KJ>easier on others. I will be going back to school next week. I'm KJ>pursuing a major in computer science. A friend in the program tipped KJ>me off to a job I might be able to get, in order to keep my head KJ>above water while in school, and it's right around the corner from KJ>where I live... I am going to see the guy today, talk to him, see if KJ>he would be willing to help me out and if I could help him by being KJ>in his employ... Good luck! please let me know. :)) KJ>As for that other thing we had exchanged so KJ>much mail about, there is not much good to say right now about that, KJ>except that we have been talking. We go to the same college and may KJ>have opportunity to see each other occasionally a couple days a week KJ>for coffee or lunch, but I'm not going to push it... I feel I have KJ>pushed way too hard already, though I feel my push is in response to KJ>her pull, if that makes any sense. KJ> Anyway, write back when you can, and take care... I'm sorry things aren't working out yet w/that problem. I'm sure you can find someone who will treat you so much better. You are a nice person and deserve so much more. Just don't drink. :)))) Your friend, J J ___ * POW 1.1 On Trial * GLYSDI --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: PC Emporium BBS * Boca Raton, FL * 407-994-3690 (1:3638/5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D4C00007 Date: 04/03/96 From: KITTY JONES Time: 10:57pm \/To: ANDREW DETTMAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Any body there? AD>Hello All , keep coming back... AD>Just to see if these messages are getting through :-) AD>Best wishes, AD>Andrew. AD>--- Terminate 3.00 AD> * Origin: A Bus Stop: a stationary Point for moving..... AD>(2:2502/28.4) Hi. Getting you here in Florida. :))) ___ X POW 1.1 On Trial X GLYSDI --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: PC Emporium BBS * Boca Raton, FL * 407-994-3690 (1:3638/5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D4C00008 Date: 04/03/96 From: KITTY JONES Time: 10:59pm \/To: KURT J. TISCHER (Read 0 times) Subj: Prayers Please KJ> * * * This message was from KURT J. TISCHER to ALL * * * KJ> * * * and has been forwarded to you by KURT J. TISCHER * * * KJ> ----------------------------------------------- KJ> Hello All, KJ> I just wanted to let you know that I'm having a relationship KJ>problem with someone who means a great deal to me. I won't drink over KJ>this, to be sure, but the serentiy prayer and the word acceptance KJ>have become a minute by minute thing... KJ> Letting go is not easy for me, though I do what I must do KJ>daily to keep on the road. KJ> This is just a humble request for prayers for myself from you KJ>all that I might cope more easily. KJ> Thank you all... KJ> Kurt I'm here for you Kurt. :))))) ___ X POW 1.1 On Trial X Make Now Always The Most Precious Time. Now Will Never Come --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: PC Emporium BBS * Boca Raton, FL * 407-994-3690 (1:3638/5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D4C00009 Date: 03/20/96 From: KITTY JONES Time: 05:11pm \/To: EILEEN KREH (Read 0 times) Subj: multi-program recovery EK>I really don't think my recovery from alcoholism or the emotional EK>effects of the disease could have been possible unless I was EK>introduced to the alonon program first. I, too, became interested EK>in 12 step programs to fix someone else in my life. After that blew EK>up in my face and all of my easier, softer roads were exhausted I EK>came to the conclusion that maybe, just maybe, this problem I was EK>having with regards to insane living did derive from (egads!) me. I EK>immediately jumped into a searching, but not quite fearless, persuit EK>of the 12 steps. I inadvertantly realized I was an alcoholic when my EK>sponsor(alonon sponsor at the time )read to me from AA when I also EK>began squirming in my seat and realized that I exhibited all the EK>behaviors of an alcoholic and definitely drank like one. goodbye EK>--- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.2f EK> * Origin: Dingle Delaware Austin, TX (512) 442-8145 (1:382/48) You just told my story :))). Hi Eileen, I'm an alcoholic and my name is Kitty. I hope you don't mind me replying, I just couldn't believe it when I was reading your message, I thought I had written it and just forgot til I saw your name in the From area :))). Actually, the only difference is I realized I am an alcoholic after hearing a woman speak at an open AA meeting. Hope to hear from you again. ___ * POW 1.1 On Trial * GLYSDI --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: PC Emporium BBS * Boca Raton, FL * 407-994-3690 (1:3638/5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D4C00010 Date: 03/23/96 From: KITTY JONES Time: 08:22pm \/To: TIM DILL (Read 0 times) Subj: All good things end TD>On (18 Mar 96) Andrea Fleishman was mumbling to Tim Dill... TD> AF> I tried to send you a grokenguru msg and it got sent back. I TD>figured AF> you must have opted out of AOL. Knew I'd catch up with TD>you here. TD> I dropped you another note at your aol address, shoulda got it TD> AF> Are you going to finish this year's school there? TD> Yes I am, however it get's harder and harder just to stay even TD>especially in the programming class that I am in.. should see the TD>amount of people that are no longer with the class.... TD> TD> AF> Hopefully I'm TD> AF> back in message business again. I did a reinstall of LiveWire TD>and AF> Blue Wave. i found if I run BW in window instead of full TD>screen it AF> seems to be keeping it's color stable so I can read my TD>msg's. TD> OS2 has a habit of chewing up and spitting out any dos application TD>that it finds, it's even worse with WIN95.... TD> TD> Af> I lost TD> AF> several msg's while I was getting things working. I'm in AOL as TD> AF> Svenska964 if you can send there. I'm no longer at Xerox (at TD>least AF> for now) so the other address won't get to me anymore. TD> I know I sent you a message from my other Inet address of TD>aj727@lafn.org shoulda received it by now.... TD> AF> over 30 cards to write and thought I'd use Corel to make my own TD> AF> instead of the usual store kind. Learning and making special TD>all at AF> the same time. TD> Corel? I could never master that one.. too many install disks all TD>at 360... TD> AF> I do....And I'm trying to use some of my time getting back to my TD> AF> writing too. I haven't been able to put the time on it while TD>working. TD> I know that deal, I never have time even to keep tabs on here.. TD>only been doing personal mail. TD> BTW: I did get your snail, just never did get around to reading it TD>and it's on the desk somewhere.... TD> Tim.... TD>--- PPoint 2.00 TD> * Origin: Nuclear Waste Software /*\ We Glow Too! (1:102/749.2) I thought this conference was to talk about alcholism or any other mind altering drug. ___ * POW 1.1 On Trial * A smile can never be kept, it can only be given away. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: PC Emporium BBS * Boca Raton, FL * 407-994-3690 (1:3638/5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D4D00000 Date: 04/07/96 From: DOCTOR Time: 05:57pm \/To: TREE WALSH (Read 0 times) Subj: HI TW>Doctor wrote: >DR*Sorry but just my opinion sounds like terminal uniqueness..... TW>Thanks for sharing. TW>I don't understand what you are saying.... TW>What I'm hearing is- just your opinion sounds like terminal uniqueness. TW>If on the other hand you are saying that you don't honour my process, >that's fine. TW>Acceptance is an essential part of *my* recovery process and of the 12 >step process too. Like I said just my opinion just seems like a lot of people now a days don't think they need to do it the way our founders did... they say it doesn't work for them.... I don't believe that I believe they still want to do things there way which is more comfortable for them.... TW> * 1st 1.11 ~Denial is not 'just' a river in Egypt! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ How true!!!!! --- QMPro 1.51 Redneck: (n); a person whose family tree doesn't fork. EVQWK 7.96.04 (Registered) Purple's Place * 609-893-2367 * 288v34 * Fidonet --- VFIDO 7.12 * Origin: Purple's Place - An Outhouse In The 'Jersey Pines (1:266/705) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D4D00001 Date: 04/09/96 From: KURT J. TISCHER Time: 02:17am \/To: KITTY JONES (Read 0 times) Subj: Hello KJ>KJ>Haven't written or received any messages from you in a KJ>KJ>while, so I thought I'd write. KJ>I'm glad you did. :) I was having a problem w/getting messages. Yeah, sometimes me, too. I get a lot of bad mail packets from my Fido HUB. KJ>KJ> How ya doin'? KJ>I've been doing ok. I met this guy about 2 weeks ago and he seems KJ>really nice. I'm just afraid to get hurt again. I've been just taking KJ>it one day at a time. :) "Nice"... Such a soft, flabby word. :) "Oh, he is so nice, and she's nice, too. Isn't that nice" - George Carlin - I don't blame you for that fear. Take it slow, keep your cool and pay strict attention to his words and actions. They can tell you much. Watch out for red flags! KJ>KJ>pursuing a major in computer science. A friend in the program KJ>KJ>tipped me off to a job I might be able to get, in order to keep my KJ>KJ>head above water while in school, and it's right around the corner KJ>Good luck! please let me know. :)) Well, that didn't work out. At least not yet, but there are good things ahead. I have some high paying sound work coming up for some national acts. I'll be working with Quiet Riot, Trouble, and L.A. Guns later this month. That'll be kickin'! KJ>KJ>As for that other thing we had exchanged so KJ>KJ>much mail about, there is not much good to say right now about KJ>I'm sorry things aren't working out yet w/that problem. I'm sure you KJ>can find someone who will treat you so much better. You are a nice KJ>person and deserve so much more. Just don't drink. :)))) She called me today. Said she had been crying all day. Was really flippin' out about her problems and said she wanted to drink. Talked about withdrawing from school and going out. Then while we were on the phone, her ex showed up at her place and she let me go, said she would call back. I called her back about half hour later, concerned about what she was telling me. She answered the phone crying. I asked her if she was okay, and of course she said "Yes" (BULLSHIT), and that she would call after he left. No call. Oh well, I can't save her from herself or from anyone else. I would hate to see her blow 8 years for some pointless usage, but hey, I gotta worry about me, right? Sounds selfish and it is, but I can't help her, lest she want it. Later, Kurt -=- * CMPQwk #1.42-R2 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- SLMAIL v4.5a (#4334) * Origin: 3RD EAR BBS - Middleburg Heights, Ohio - 216-234-6088 (1:157/438)