--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D3Z00008 Date: 03/26/96 From: ED KASKY Time: 07:10pm \/To: LINDA GLOVER (Read 0 times) Subj: DOS Quoting what Linda said [22 Mar 96 07:31] -=> LG> Well, for those in California who said I'd never make LG> it....PHETOOOEY!!!!!! Good thing I wasn't one of them }B->) Congratulations on the 8 years!!!!! Ed ... It gets better. --- Blue Wave/QBBS v2.20 * Origin: 12 Steps BBS via Hooray For Hollywood 213-653-7508 (1:102/749) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D3^00000 Date: 03/29/96 From: LINDA GLOVER Time: 07:02am \/To: TIM DILL (Read 0 times) Subj: X-country Trip So when is the big trip? Are you going to pass nearby? If so, we're definitely going to meet even if it's only on the highway!! I'll bring some coffee, we can get in the slow lane and pass it back and forth :-)!!! Hugs, Linda --- DB 1.54/004780 * Origin: The Bearly Bored HST 573-581-6717 1:289/1 (1:289/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D3^00001 Date: 03/29/96 From: ED KASKY Time: 12:17am \/To: JUDITH LABONTE (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Cure for Alcoholism? 00:17:0003/29/96 On 27 Mar 96 17:51 Judith wrote . . . JL> Love it! Can you send them to me net mail - anti-mac tags I mean. My JL> husband works for a computer co. and I want to pass them on to him. JL> Thanks. Been done-- Let me know if they make it or not... Ed ... Alcoholics have to be fed recovery with teaspoons... --- Blue Wave/QBBS v2.30 * Origin: 12 Steps BBS via Hooray For Hollywood 213-653-7508 (1:102/749) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D3^00002 Date: 03/30/96 From: MARY BETH PARISI Time: 06:05pm \/To: KURT J. TISCHER (Read 0 times) Subj: Prayers Please Kurt, my prayers are with you...know what it means to get all bunched up...the last couple of weeks have been unmannageble...for the first time since I came into recovery i have been feeling like drinking...I've talked with my sponsor, gone to meetings, tried to turn it over but this is still throbbing in my gut...I've tried to get into the swing of things in here by posting to people and hoping they'd get to know me like in a meeting and maybe that connection would help...I have faith it will...I will also keep you in my "prayers" in hopes that you find your serentiy too take care MB --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: The 3L's BBS - Latham, NY (1:267/124) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D3^00003 Date: 03/20/96 From: DAVID GOYETTE Time: 08:26am \/To: MARY BETH PARISI (Read 0 times) Subj: MARCH Rules Hello Mary! Monday March 18 1996 17:05, Mary Beth Parisi wrote to David Goyette: MP> I saw where you wrote that recovery effect every part of your MP> life...you have a good point...I am an alcoholic in recovery for 3 1/2 MP> years and believe it or not this is just starting to sink in...people I don't know why but I always seem to talk about this a my anniversary speech. I talk about commitment and responsibility. Commitment to myself, the program, and the world. A responsibility to make it better. David --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: 1st Nats Resource Netw sfuwki@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (1:3603/390) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D3^00004 Date: 03/20/96 From: DAVID GOYETTE Time: 09:16am \/To: EILEEN KREH (Read 0 times) Subj: multi-program recovery Hello EILEEN! Monday March 18 1996 21:58, EILEEN KREH wrote to ALL: EK> of the 12 steps. I inadvertantly realized I was an alcoholic when my EK> sponsor(alonon sponsor at the time )read to me from AA when I also EK> began squirming in my seat and realized that I exhibited all the EK> behaviors of an alcoholic and definitely drank like one. goodbye Funny. I was going through a divorce and went to a counselor. She read me the 10 questions for Adult Children of Alcoholics, and I said ,"That's me"! Went to an ACOA meeting a few times and they talked about alcoholics and I said the same thing. Next stop a 12 Step room. So here I am. David --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: 1st Nats Resource Netw sfuwki@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (1:3603/390) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D3^00005 Date: 03/23/96 From: DAVID GOYETTE Time: 09:15pm \/To: ELAINE LOVELESS (Read 0 times) Subj: dealing with it Hello Elaine! Fancy meeting you besides on na-*! I did something wrong and I've really had a hard time with it. We are responsible, we are honest in our program. I have to face what I did, yet when I do I am full of self recrimination. I WAS WRONG. I felt the feeling today of destruction that I had when I was using. That part towards the end when I was pushing the envelope, getting closer to that OD, using the max I could without dying and not really caring. Today I wanted that numbness I got from drugs and alcohol. I didn't, but that guilt really did me in. I double-timed it to some meetings. This whole thing slipped right past me and hit me hard. Scared the hell out of me too after realizing how close I came, I could have picked up. And I've got some time in the program. I prayed to let it pass, to live with myself and my faults, to fix what I broke. My sponser said the same thing," when we are done beating ourselves up, let it go. We will face what comes of our past actions in the future, they are past, you will be responsible. Don't try to "fix it", don't make it worse but live with it. Pray. What's done is done, what will be will be, we have no control over that". So simple. I can make mistakes. I am not in control. Still, damn. I better do better and keep a close watch on my program. Thanks, I needed to share this. David --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: 1st Nats Resource Netw sfuwki@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (1:3603/390) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D3^00006 Date: 03/26/96 From: DAVID GOYETTE Time: 12:05am \/To: ELAINE LOVELESS (Read 0 times) Subj: Day by Day Hello Elaine! You'll see from my last post I had a spot of trouble a couple days ago. I wish this had gotten out quicker, I needed some help. I did get through it, and got some help. I couldn't just stop it, it took a couple days, and I stayed clean and dry. I'm looking over what I missed now. I'm doing another 4th. That scared me to death. My question now is this. I've been in the rooms of NA and AA for 7 years. I've never met someone who had trouble with say over 5 years. Sure I've heard of it but nobody has EVER told me they were having a problem staying clean and sober over 5 years. NONE. I remember when I first got sober, meeting these people with 20 years and I'd think gosh how did they do it. I've heard them say take it one day at a time but I never heard them say they hurt or ask for help. Have you oldtimers out there let us know you hurt sometimes? Can you show us so we believe it? You see I thought it was lifted. At some point in my early recovery I prayed and the urge was taken away. Until a couple days ago. I got hit by a freight train of feelings and I wanted out. Why didn't I hear this? Tonight I met someone at a meeting, one of the oldtimers, one of the guys I talked to yesterday. He said,"Oh, you're 7? You have some feelings coming out again, you're learning about yourself again. You feel things now that you didn't before." I said," But I already did that!". Strtch said," So........., we always change, we always have more to learn about ourselves." He said he had similar trouble at 13 years," we will always be addicts or alcoholics and sometimes the sickness just blows you away, as long as you don't drink or drug you can recover. You can get through that hard spot if you don't use. You will." I guess I can't believe I got blown away like this. All my tools failed. I thank my higher power I'm here. David --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: 1st Nats Resource Netw sfuwki@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (1:3603/390) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D4100000 Date: 03/30/96 From: PURPLE BEAST Time: 02:14am \/To: WES FITZSIMMONS (Read 0 times) Subj: Area Rules Re: Area Rules I'm not the mod or even the asst mod, but handles are allowed here, just ask some of the folk like Shadowcat, fingerlakes Dave or Rain The basic rules are be openminded, take criticism with a grain of salt. Kind of take what you need and leave the rest. Thank you for the info..... I carry this conference for those who requested it. I wanted to comply with what the rules were so that is why the request for info/rules was made. Purple's Place * 609-893-2367 * 288v34 * Fidonet --- VFIDO 7.12 * Origin: Purple's Place - An Outhouse In The 'Jersey Pines (1:266/705) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D4100001 Date: 03/31/96 From: JUDITH LABONTE Time: 10:09pm \/To: RICHARD WARD (Read 0 times) Subj: chat re- I sit most of time on my electric scooter/wheelchair - well being disabled myself, I know that the echoes here that are recovery oriented are a big help to myself and others who are disabled -especially those of us with mobility issues. I am legally - not totally - blind and have arthritis in my neck, severely in my lower spine and in my knees too more recently. I really appreciate being able to get my recovery medicine when I can't get out - esp. this winter. Even those echoes I don't choose to use personally, I appreciate as I am sure they are helping others. Being disabled can isolate one a lot. So can being an addict, alcoholic, codependent or whatever addiction one has. To be both increases the isolation. But the nets really seem to be helpful in tearing down those kinds of walls. --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #66 * Origin: Keystone BBS * Shrewsbury, MA * 508-753-3767 (1:322/743.0)