--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CG^00001 Date: 12/27/95 From: RICH WARD Time: 06:20am \/To: THOM R. (Read 1 times) Subj: Miracles On (24 Dec 95) Thom R. wrote to Tim Dill... TD> On (29 Nov 95) Rich Ward wrote to Tim Dill... TD> TD> Resent 11-28...Higher power seems to have gone by the wayside.... TR> This is a bummer....... I liked that echo. TR> My dream is to have a Big Book Study echo... THAT would be cool! Well!!! ;-) When a couple of us wanted to share our East/West coast 12 step oriented message areas we talked to each other and the DID IT. It's amazing how things happen when you PRAY like it's all up to HP and then do the FOOTWORK like it's all up to you/me. ... Rule #69: Look, do we have to explain everything? :-) --- PPoint 1.92 * Origin: Steps of DC West! Long Beach, CA (1:102/749.7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CG^00002 Date: 12/28/95 From: RICH WARD Time: 07:40am \/To: TOM ANDERSON (Read 1 times) Subj: Is There A Healthy Limit On (26 Dec 95) TOM ANDERSON wrote to THOM R.... TA> Hello Thom! TA> In a message to Wagbag <12/24/95> Thom R. wrote: TR> If any of my sponsees drink NA Beer, they change their sobriety date. TR> Also, for the record, if any of them even GARGLE with listerine (52 TA> Careful, someone may kick that soapbox out from under you. Since Did you see me sneaking up behind him? I was just ready to kick that box! TA> when do YOU have a sayso, in a persons sobriety date? That is TA> take another look at what this program is about.... That statement could be made to many whose messages appear in this echo. ;-) ... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. --- PPoint 1.92 * Origin: Steps of DC West! Long Beach, CA (1:102/749.7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CG^00003 Date: 12/28/95 From: TIM DILL Time: 07:30pm \/To: TOM ANDERSON (Read 1 times) Subj: Nude Is Best, No Way To H On (26 Dec 95) TOM ANDERSON wrote to THOM R.... TA> Not difficult at all.... Just take off your clothes. (G) Tom, We discussed this once..... I see it again? Tim Dill Asst Moderator Recovery Echo --- PPoint 1.92 * Origin: Nuclear Waste Software /*\ We Glow Too! (1:102/749.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CG^00004 Date: 12/28/95 From: TIM DILL Time: 07:37pm \/To: PSAPPHO (Read 1 times) Subj: PAGAN 12-STEP On (26 Dec 95) Psappho wrote to Matrika... P > Then I would suggest you avoid pagan recovery. Hmmm, the Moderator has changed since you last logged in there.. We Shanghied John E. off the Spider's Web... I Asst here and there is soon to be another one elsewhere ;-) We be Jammin ;-) B*B Tim... --- PPoint 1.92 * Origin: Nuclear Waste Software /*\ We Glow Too! (1:102/749.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CG^00005 Date: 12/30/95 From: MARTIN WAXMAN Time: 05:31pm \/To: DEAN POWER (Read 1 times) Subj: RECOVERY !!! Dean Power wrote to Sharon Stevens on and announced .. DP> I MUST STOP FIGHTING ALL THINGS ALLOW ALL PEOPLE TO BE EXACTLY AS THEY DP> ARE.HUMILITY,TO BE ABLE TO STAY HUMBLE IN ALL SITUATIONS. DOESN"T ALWAYS DP> WORK,BUT I TRY.GOOD LUCK.HAVE A HAPPY !!! Hi Dean hope you are doing well. Happy new year. ps. Unless you are shouting, please turn off the caps lock on your keyboard. It is hard to tell by your message if you are or not meaning too. Marty --- msgedsq 2.0.4 * Origin: Marty's Place Mesa, AZ (1:114/136.4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CG^00006 Date: 12/30/95 From: TOM ANDERSON Time: 07:20pm \/To: PSAPPHO (Read 1 times) Subj: Is there a healthy limit for the alcohol19:20:0012/30/95 Hello Psappho! In a message to Tom Anderson <12/26/95> Psappho wrote: PP> I don't see how anyone could get high on it. I mean your going to piss it PP> out before there is enough in your system. After one I feel so full that I PP> don't want another. I can see where it could be used for an excuse to PP> start drinking for some, so I will admit that for many its not a good place PP> to go. Its up to the individual... like everything else in the program. So it would seem to me also. If I make the decision to drink, it sure wouldn't be any neer beer (G) I anyone is looking for an "excuse" to drink, they will find it wherever they look. Excuses can sometimes be easy to find.... Keep Commin Back !!! TomA ... This is pretty exciting for a Thursday!! --- GEcho/32 1.20/Pro * Origin: Michiana Online, Michigan City, IN (1:230/15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CG^00007 Date: 12/28/95 From: MIKE KAUFFMAN Time: 06:50pm \/To: ALL CALLERS (Read 1 times) Subj: Modems does anyone know about eva modems and if so what is the down load, files go were to z,x,y, modem or what it is vary puzzling thanks have a happy new year * SPITFIRE v3.5 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Psych Ward St Helens, Or. (1:105/762) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D1100000 Date: 12/31/95 From: RUFUS Time: 01:19pm \/To: PSAPPHO (Read 1 times) Subj: Is there a healthy limit -=>Psappho made a resolution to become a healthy limit in 1996. KS> "Non-alcoholic beer" is permitted by law to have KS> a small percent of alcohol in it. I don't remember KS> the amount, but if you ask you will find what I say KS> is true. KS> As to going to bars, the Big Book asks if we are KS> trying to steal a little vicarious pleasure from KS> those who are drinking. KS> I treasure my sobriety too much to walk along the KS> edge of the cliff, if you know what I mean. Ps> If you have a problem with it then I suggest you not do it ! Good advice. Thanks for the suggestion, but I already don't go to bars. KS> I hear a lot of rationalization here. What does KS> your sponsor have to say about all this? Ps> I hear a great deal of judgment in your statement what does Ps> your sponsor say about it? He does not object to my mentioning other fellow recovering alcoholic's risky behavior to them. If someone is standing on the railroad tracks with their back to an oncoming train, I have no hesitation about telling them that there's a train coming and they should consider getting off the tracks. If they don't, it's no longer my problem. Ps> Do what works for you and your program and leave others alone. No way. If other members of A.A. had left me alone I certainly would not be here passing the message along to you today. You are certainly free to take the message or leave it. They tell me to carry the message not the drunk. Ps> If its not broken don't fix it. My program works for me, Ps> and if there is anything I can do to help you in yours then I Ps> will. You already have helped me by reminding me that I have no business "having fun" in bars. Thanks. I do become concerned when I hear someone say they are working "their program." I prefer not to work "my program" but rather to work the A.A. program. That's all I have to say about the matter. You are certainly free to continue working *your* program. As they say, you may be the only copy of the Big Book other people might see. ... Success is no more permanent than failure. --- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 * Origin: Ruby's Joint BBS 904.777.6799 (1:112/129) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D1100001 Date: 12/31/95 From: DEAN POWER Time: 09:47am \/To: ANYONE (Read 1 times) Subj: Caps Sorry i affended anyone with the CAPS.Didn"t seem to important to me.Imust stop fighting all things. I"ll be careful in the future.Eight years of recovery and I still make mistakes [G.S.R. SPANAWAY GROUP} Happy recovery !!!! --- Maximus 3.00 * Origin: Covenant BBS Tacoma, Washington (1:138/228) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: D1100002 Date: 12/30/95 From: TIM DILL Time: 09:01am \/To: THOM R. (Read 1 times) Subj: Is There A Healthy Limit TR> If any of my sponsees drink NA Beer, they change their sobriety date. TR> Also, for the record, if any of them even GARGLE with listerine (52 TR> PROOF - 26% alcohol), they also change their sobriety date. If I had a hard ass as you as a sponsor I'd fire him in a hot second... It's up to me to figure out my recovery dates.. heck if we take it far enough NONE of us addicts that drink coffee are really clean and sober... Geez relax a little ;-) Tim.... ... Yeah, I do BBS. I can handle it, though. No problem. --- PPoint 1.92 * Origin: Nuclear Waste Software /*\ We Glow Too! (1:102/749.2)