--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CFC00005 Date: 11/05/95 From: BUD CARPENTER Time: 12:13pm \/To: TOM ANDERSON (Read 2 times) Subj: Nude AA...? ;) On (02 Nov 95) TOM ANDERSON wrote to BUD CARPENTER... TA> Hello Bud! TA> In a message to Tom Anderson <10/29/95> Bud Carpenter wrote: BC> On (26 Oct 95) TOM ANDERSON wrote to ALLYSON SANDS... TA> So I guess what I'm saying is that meetings in the nude are TA> pretty much like other meetings. We share E,S&H, and do our best TA> to stay sober for another day. TA> Amazing how the program works wherever you go.... BC> Yep, got a beach meeting in Hawaii called the Naked Truth. TA> Started a BC> young peoples group here by the same name, but it does not meet BC> nude...Yet. BC> Bud TA> So what are you waiting for ??? (G) TA> Keep Commin Back !!! TomA TA> ... Laetrile is the pits. I doubt that the meeting will ever be nude...There may be associated activities that are, but it's held at the Serenity Club, and the other folks just wouldn't understand. Bud ... 3 stages of sex: Tri-weekly, try weekly, try weakly. --- PPoint 1.90 * Origin: A place of madness, Fun though! (1:309/2.113) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CFC00006 Date: 11/06/95 From: ELAINE LOVELESS Time: 04:05pm \/To: ROSLYN REID (Read 2 times) Subj: RE: IS THERE A HEALTHY LI On 5 Nov 95 03:28pm, Roslyn Reid wrote to Elaine Loveless: EL>>Can't answer for other alcoholics, but for this alcoholic, any alcohol EL>>in my system at all is deadly. For me to drink is to die...... RR> good equation. A doctor told me that, and I believed him! EL>>... I tried to contain myself, but I escaped. RR> somebody rubbed the lamp? :D Yup! ... Frog philosophy: Time's fun when you're having flies! Bright Blessings, Elaine * Silver Xpress V4.01P SW12813 --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.03M1 --- Squish/386 v1.11 * Origin: The Crossroads BBS, Round Rock, Texas (512) 255-8985 (1:382/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CFC00007 Date: 11/06/95 From: MARGE CLARK Time: 08:06am \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: Grapevine for those of you who read/receive The Grapevine, there's an article in this month's issue entitled "From Cyber to Sober"...the story of a woman whose first encounter with recovery came thru an online steps and traditions study. The article is available on Promises as "Box459#4.txt", for File request or first time download...it's in file area 1. reading it made me REAL grateful to the friends online who held my hand through that first dreadful year of sobriety. --- msged 2.06 * Origin: Promises bbs, Nashville TN (615) 367-4410 (1:116/3000.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CFC00008 Date: 11/06/95 From: TOM ANDERSON Time: 11:56am \/To: ROSLYN REID (Read 2 times) Subj: Nude Aa...? ;) Hello Roslyn! In a message to Tom Anderson <11/05/95> Roslyn Reid wrote: RR> TA>Now, I'm just to darned old... (G) (and ugly) RR> too old to drink & too ugly to go nude, or too old to go nude & too ugly RR> to RR> drink? :D Fortunately, yes to one and no to the other.(G) Still spend a lot of time at our camp but just keep my clothes on... Mostly. I wish there was an age where drinking was never an option, knowing better, I keep workin at this crazy program. (G) Keep Commin Back !!! TomA ... Familiarity breeds. --- GEcho/32 1.20/Pro * Origin: Michiana Online, Michigan City, IN (1:230/15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CFC00009 Date: 11/06/95 From: ALMUSTAFA Time: 10:03pm \/To: ROSLYN REID (Read 2 times) Subj: New Member -=> Quoting Roslyn Reid to Almustafa <=- AA>Hi Roslyn, Did you ever read "The Prophet" by Kahlil Gibran?? Well AA>it's a great book and that is where I got my handle from.. RR> i must be one of the only people of my generation who never RR> has. i thought yer handle sounded rather turkish. Hi Roslyn, Actually Kahlil is Lebonese (SP)... Sorry that it has taken so long for me to respond to your post.. Was real busy last week with getting everything done for work so that I could take a long weekend and go to the Champlain Valley Area Convention of NA in Burlington, VT. This was my first Narcotics Anonymous convention and it was really great.. I must be the oldest newcomer to these things seeing that I'm in my 7th year of recovery.. I really know what I was missing now.. It has left me with a renewed sense of fellowship, faith and love for the program of Narcotics Anonymous. Since I spent the weekend with my sponcer, it has helped us to get to know each other much better and much more intimately.. For awhile I thought one of us was going to fire the other but by working the process I feel that we have instead streghtened that very important relationship. Hugs to you.. ` Yours in Recovery Joe... --- * Origin: Falconetti's (1:267/161) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CFC00010 Date: 11/05/95 From: TIM DILL Time: 09:40pm \/To: MARGE CLARK (Read 2 times) Subj: Sponsership On (03 Nov 95) Marge Clark wrote to Harriet Levy... MC> and what strikes me as the important thing here, gal, is that one has to MC> have the WILLINGNESS to explore the real hard stuff... MC> the stuff you don't want to look at, let alone talk about. Marge, I agree some what, however I will not justify anything that I have said here or there. I am just relating my experiences over the past few years. MC> seems to me that choosing to remain MC> sponsorless gives a wonderful option to 'hide out' Maybe I'll give you the history of my sponsors. The first one skipped out more or less upon more than one occasion when I set up a third step appointment with him.. so I fired him. The second got me through all my steps up to nine then tried to convert me to christianity, so I let him go. The next was an utter disaster that I won't even go into... The next was Tom K. he is forever working with newcomers and never returns his calls when I leave a message.. so I quit calling (useless eh?) The next person on my list is Joe K., he and I have a sorta working relationship. He gives me the encouragement to continue along my chosen path. As for step input I have Mike B. the guy I hang with at work. He gets me to explore the tough ones even if the relationship is not a formal one. I am not hiding out. I just shared with my Dad this weekend of what spiritual path I am on (Wicca.. yes Harriet except for my brother and my Mom, I am out of the broom closet and I left some excellent text files with my Dad that will prolly be shared with my Mom) A tough choice, but in order to be true to myself I had to let my Dad know why he saw so many changes in me the last year or so.. even if he does not understand it. MC> by asking someone to sponsor you, you are... MC> signifying your willingness to continue the process? I have asked around and so far no one who has made the commitment to help me along the way in the past year or so has kept the commitment to be available.. and it seems to be the norm in L.A. AA/NA.. It's a wonder that I never got disillusioned enough to drink again but for some reason I kept havin at it.. and stayed sober... Hugs Tim.... ... Questions? Comments? Resentments? --- PPoint 1.92 * Origin: Trudging the road in Torrance Ca. (1:102/541.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CFC00011 Date: 11/07/95 From: ESTHER LINDENFELD Time: 07:51am \/To: H-D (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Traditions? -=> Quoting H-D to Esther Lindenfeld <=- H-> RE: Re: Traditions? H-> BY: Esther Lindenfeld to H-D on Mon Oct 30 1995 08:59:03 H-> Go right ahead...that's what this is all about. Yes and thats why I did jump in. The asking if I was wright was more of a courtesy than anything else. H-> I couldn't agree with you more. It is hard at times but it works if H-> you do it. You understood exactly what we were talking about. I had H-> never been told about the 2 weeks part...I may have to try it . I H-> can be a very judging person and very hard headed. I don't know about H-> you...but I need all the tools I can get. The two week part is in the big book somewhere I think that it is near page 449 if I remember correctly. Well I too need the tools and use them quite frequently. Especially when I am going through a hard time and want to drink. I have been fortunate though I came into the rooms and haven't picked up a drink or a drug since then. Sometimes the only thing that stops me is my time that I have in the program but whatever works don't fix it. Anyway maybe we can talk some more. You take care of yourself and have a good 24. Esther ... PROGRAM: People Relying On God, Relaying A Message. --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The World's End BBS 914-298-0158 (1:2624/610) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CFC00012 Date: 11/07/95 From: ESTHER LINDENFELD Time: 07:51am \/To: ROSLYN REID (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: surrender -=> Quoting Roslyn Reid to Esther Lindenfeld <=- RR> oh, tell me about SLOW! 3 years ago, i gained 20 pounds on a medical RR> regimen & havent been able to lose *any* yet. what really pissed me RR> off was that the doctor knew this weight gain was a possibility, but RR> said nothing... :( Yeah don't you just love Dr's. that play God and make decisions for you. I was lucky, I found one that is really cool and talks to me about everything and anything. We are more friends than Dr./Patient. I even know where she hangs out, but it is in a bar and I am not likely to go there, but I have a friend in the city and she was there and wants to go back there so I told her I would go with her but only on a Friday night when my Dr. wasn't likely to be there as she works on Sat. and has to be there at 9AM. Well anyway not to get off into a tangent here. I was put on meds when I was a kid and gained over 100 lbs on it and no one told me either that the pills were apetite increasers and I wasn't exactly thin when I started to gain the weight. Well when I was taken off of them I starved myself and I lost the weight but gained it back plus some and then went on a yoyo syndrome, now I am working with a nutritionist and loosing it again. RR> i have the softcover edition, which i got thru my book club. (i think RR> it ran about $15.) the author is clarissa pinkola estes (she's a RR> therapist) & the publisher is ballantine. ISBN 0-345-37744-3. RR> estes wrote this in 1992, & it's a collection of folktales she uses to RR> illustrate woman's true nature & how to survive in life. i highly RR> recommend it. I have no memory at all I don't remember the name of the book and of course it would have been to easy to write it down so could you give me the name of it again as well. I will see how much it is and if it is here in the bookstores or I have to order it. I just bought a book surviving sexual abuse. It is called Reaching for the Rainbow and the strange thing is that my alias name is Rainbow. I felt that the book was meant for me and I have gotten some things out of it all ready and I just started the book. Well you take care and maybe we can chat some more. Esther ... No Thought Found: Reformat Brain (Y/N)? --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The World's End BBS 914-298-0158 (1:2624/610) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CFD00000 Date: 11/06/95 From: LORI CURRAN Time: 07:40am \/To: ROSLYN REID (Read 2 times) Subj: PAGAN 12-STEP Roslyn Reid wrote to Lori Curran about PAGAN 12-STEP on 11-04-95 LC>If you find anything would you be kind enough to pass along any info LC>to others? :) RR>sure will--there used to be a "pagan recovery" echo, but i dont know RR>what happened to that. havent seen it in years. Thank you very much. :) The Pagan Recovery Echo, was it a FIDO? Lori 11/06/95 07:30AM CMPQwk 1.42 8079 * To learn, you must listen to that which is not spoken. --- Renegade v10-05 Exp * Origin: Alternate Reality BBS * RGSNet HQ * (619) 251-0609 (1:219/800) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CFD00001 Date: 11/06/95 From: ROSLYN REID Time: 10:07pm \/To: HARRIET LEVY (Read 2 times) Subj: PAGAN 12-STEP HL> TD> Ok, next rather ignorant question, who is selena fox? HL> HL>Oh Gods....I see I have a lot of work to do! rofl! ok, you can take this one... --- MegaMail 2.10 #0 --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: The Back Door BBS Richmond VA V34+ (1:264/165)