--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CDM00000 Date: 09/16/95 From: LARRY HORTON Time: 12:22am \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: recovering hi. my name is larry and i am an alcoholic and drug addict. and also an adult child of an alcoholic. i was wondering if anyone knows where any alanon or acoa meetings are at in meriden. i would appreciate it. been in recovery for 3+ years now, and i am new in meriden. please post meetings here as a private message to me. thanks larry --- Renegade v5-31 Exp * Origin: The Pharmacy Bbs! (1:141/814) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CDM00001 Date: 09/17/95 From: OWEN Time: 05:21pm \/To: LYNDA NUSSER (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: reply to open letter --- Renegade v10-05 Exp * Origin: Pandora's BBS - Phila. Net273 NEC *215-739-9508* (1:273/80) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CDM00002 Date: 09/16/95 From: DREAMER Time: 08:39pm \/To: MUNCHKIN (Read 2 times) Subj: Help -=> Quoting Munchkin to Bob Knowles <=- Mu> After that....the ball is in his court. If he denies his level of Mu> addiction or tells you to MYOB then, back away....he's not ready yet. That's for sure...I tried to get my husband to quit....I knew he had a problem, but he wasn't ready. Mu> enable his drinking and, sit back and wait for him to find his bottom. Mu> Then, try to be there to help him pick up the pieces. Mu> Until an addict reaches the point where HE (or she) wants Mu> sobriety more than he wants the drink then, no one can help him Luckily he found his. And I was there to pick him up and suggest treatment and meetings. I've been there myself and now he understands that. Mu> As soon as the Mu> desire to drink becomes more important than the desire not to drink Mu> then....the addiction will take control again. That is the one fear that I have for myself....and for him, but I've been through enough to know that if he falls, all I can do is to be there for him when he's ready to get back up again.... ... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- TriToss (tm) Professional 1.0 - (Unregistered) * Origin: Dreamer's Lot BBS (1:322/758.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CDM00003 Date: 09/16/95 From: ELAINE LOVELESS Time: 05:24pm \/To: JUDITH LABONTE (Read 2 times) Subj: RE: SEVEN YEARS OF GRATIT On 15 Sep 95 06:26pm, Judith Labonte wrote to Elaine Loveless: JL> Yes you are right, sobriety does get easier. And that sometimes scares JL> me. I've seen oldtimers with 35 years picked up for drunk driving and JL> others with time under their belts relapse too. It used to shock me, JL> but as I stay sober, I can see why. When I go to speak these days, JL> it's really HARD to remember what it was like when I drank actively. JL> It is almost like describing another person or looking at a movie of JL> someone else's life. Yet I know intellectually that, yes, that was me. I have absolutely no problem remembering my last drunk. I had been dry for over 5 1/2 years. Instead of working the program for me, I was doing it to "help others." I went way overboard on service work and did very little step work on me. I drank for about a year, got divorced, joined the Navy, and ended up in Hawaii. The military doctor there told me that I was a helpless alcoholic and I was going to die drunk! I was 34 years old, had been married and divorced four times, lost custody of my two sons, and had gone through more jobs than I could even count. But when that doctor said that to me, the Big Book came back. I had reached that hopeless state of mind and body and I either had to work this program or I was going to die. I had a major problem with the God of my childhood, and chose Madam Pele, a Hawaii Goddess, as my Higher Power. I got a tough old bird for a sponsor and worked the program one day at a time. JL> I heard one person say that in a way, the further he got from his last JL> drink, the closer he was to his next one. This is one reason I try to JL> stay close to the program. Especially if you ever forget that last drink. Sharing what it was like reminds us of how bad it really was. JL> My current life and life-style are millions of miles away from where I JL> used to be. I know this is the magick or the program - I am a JL> "miracle" as they say. I know there is a greater power at work in this JL> than my own. You don't get to where I am from where I was without a JL> miracle. I have the psychology degree to tell me so. I know what you mean. Here I am 11+ years later, still sober one day at a time, been married almost 11 years to my husband who is also a recovering alcoholic. I regained custody of my kids, matter of fact I leave in the morning to go visit the boys and my grandkids up in Colorado. I went back to college and got a BS in education and a MEd in special education. Been through a lot, but fortunately only have to do it one day at a time. JL> One thing I am doing is taking a service job to force me to get to one JL> specific meeting weekly. Another thing I am doing is starting to JL> sponsor. I hope this will help me with it. But as you've been sober JL> longer than I, I'd like to hear anything you could give me for feedback JL> - how do you do this? I do some sponsoring, chair meetings, was a Intergroup Rep for my home group. Put my name on the calling list down at Intergroup. I work the steps on a daily basis, and I make daily contact with other drunks. I try to keep it as simple as I can....mostly because if I let myself I could intellectualize myself right back out there drunk, and I already know that the disease is progressive and I would be dead real soon. ...  There is more to reality than meets the eye  Bright Blessings, Elaine * Silver Xpress V4.01P SW12813 --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.03M1 --- Squish/386 v1.11 * Origin: The Crossroads BBS, Round Rock, Texas (512) 255-8985 (1:382/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CDN00000 Date: 09/17/95 From: TIM DILL Time: 05:06pm \/To: THE WATCHMAN! (Read 2 times) Subj: Hi On (16 Sep 95) The WatchMan! wrote to Tim Dill... TW> Guess I won't waste anymore of my good sarcasm on you. :-> The Mod of this conference -=may=- appreciate tho ;-) B*B Tim, ... Abstinence and Celibacy...Politically Correct ways of not getting any! --- PPoint 1.92 * Origin: Trudging the road in Torrance Ca. (1:102/541.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CDN00001 Date: 09/17/95 From: TRACY MOLITOR Time: 04:56pm \/To: LARRY HORTON (Read 3 times) Subj: recovering On 16 Sep, 00:22 Larry Horton wrote in a message to All: LH> hi. my name is larry and i am an alcoholic and drug addict. Hi Larry, welcome. Try St Vincent De Paul shelter or look in the phone book, front pages for AA LH> please post meetings here as a private message to me. There is no private echomail. ** Tracy ** ... I read it in the Big Book so it must be true. --- timEd 1.10.g1+ * Origin: Nude Beach Party, 28.8 V Everything, Milford CT (1:141/356) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CDN00002 Date: 09/18/95 From: ED KASKY Time: 12:11am \/To: ROSLYN REID (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: surrender Ed was thinking about what Roslyn said [14 Sep 95, 04:41pm]. . . EK>> RR> i hear ya...and like they say, you dont need to play those old EK>> RR> childhood tapes any more. they are no longer useful. EK>>It took me a second but I now remember the original message and why I EK>>wrote that ;-) You're right, they are no longer useful and I'm getting EK>>better at not listening to them. RR> good for you! it's a hard thing to do! we have to remember RR> that what our parents told us about ourselves was only their RR> *opinion*. Since last we chatted much has happened in this area. You're right about it being their opinion. I just didn't know how not to take it personally. Anyway, I was driving into work 2 weeks ago and was listening to an interview with a famous actor, a man ho described his recovery from drugs, alcohol and his drunk father's abuse. he went onto detail on how he developed a character within himself to deal with life at a very young age. How he became a _junk yard dog_ so he could fight everybody off because if anyone came too close, his dad would become insanely jealous and take drastic measures to ensure that the attention would come back to him and not his son. He described how his _junk yard dog_ began to rule his life as he grew older so much so that upon waking up every day he would figure out with whom he was going to fight that day. It became a way of life for him until he came into recovery. I cried all the way into work that day thinking of the memories he sparked. Of the character I had created to deal with my surroundings and how that character has to continue to change so that the true me can finally come to the surface. The person I was not allowed to be until now. EK>> RR> really?? you must be a HELL of a biker! EK>>Nah, just obsessive. He was stopped at a light just long enough. RR> just goes to show ya what anger can...er..."drive?" RR> you to! :) heh heh EK>> RR> the time. you cant go around screaming at & beating up EK>> RR> everybody! (and around here, you never know who's gonna be EK>> RR> packing heat in their car!) --- EK>>I used to think it was my job to do just that. I then realized that the EK>>behavior was going to get me killed eventually or at least real well EK>>bruised. Thank God reason prevailed! RR> was it ever diagnosed as a "rage disorder", or didn't you bother RR> with such formalities? Never bothered. It's just what everybody did I thought. Obviously I couldn't have been further form the mark on that one! ;-) I will say though that some well placed step work has brought a lot of clarity to the subject and much needed surrender . . . EK>>LA is not much better I'm afraid to say . . . RR> it seems to be the same everywhere. :( Some places worse than others. Parts of LA can be very nice. Peace Ed ... AA Virus, only lets you run 12-step programs. --- Via Silver Xpress V4.3P RB10238 * Origin: The Spider's Web, El Segundo, CA, (310) 416-9901 (1:102/541) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CDN00003 Date: 09/18/95 From: ED KASKY Time: 12:11am \/To: ROSLYN REID (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Traffic jam? Ed was thinking about what Roslyn said [14 Sep 95, 04:41pm]. . . EK>> EK>... "Kiss her where it smells! Take her to Jersey!" -- Carlin EK>> RR> yeah, that secondhand pollution from noo yawk is just awful... EK>>_Especially_ in Raritan!!! ;-) RR> rofl!!! fortunately i live upwind, in bernardsville! You got me on that one. Have no idea. I do remember as a kid going to Long Island from the Jersey Shore to visit cousins and crossing the Raritan Bridge. The joke in the car was over who cut the cheese _this_ time. One of the good memories and from the stink hole too! ;-) Peace Ed ... Dishonesty is the second best policy. - G. Carlin --- Via Silver Xpress V4.3P RB10238 * Origin: The Spider's Web, El Segundo, CA, (310) 416-9901 (1:102/541) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 231 RECOVERY Ref: CDP00000 Date: 09/18/95 From: LYNDA NUSSER Time: 09:24am \/To: RICH WARD (Read 2 times) Subj: Tel msg from wes Hi Rich! In a message (09-06-95) to All you wrote: RW>Arrived home this evening to find 7 PM tel msg from Wes. Thanks for posting that... it's good to know. And in case no one's told you yet today -----------------------I__L_O_V_E__Y_O_U__!----------------------- (((Rich))) Lynda === * SLMR 2.1a * Kindness is like snow-it beautifies everything it covers. * KMail 3.00y --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: The Idea Link - Technologies for Society (301) 949-5764 1:109/432)