--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DEQ00004 Date: 10/16/96 From: MARTIN CUKJATI Time: 08:43pm \/To: BRYAN BANKHEAD (Read 3 times) Subj: A Few things. BB>MC>What I am searching for is a minimal care tank. I don't mind keeping my BB>tanks serviced but I don't want to make too many stops at my doctors BB>office. The way to do this is with minimal stocking densities. One commonly BB>quoted figure for a normal tank is 1 in. of fish per 10-12 sq. in of tank BB>surface. If I were you I would halve this figure. Pick something BB>interesting that doesn't reproduce in the tank. Hi, I did a clean up and restocked with 4 sward tails and 4 tiger barbs. I called the office today and all are doing fine. I just have to get out there and service it more often. Thanks for the interest! Marty. --- OLX 2.2 If you don't like it here, go jump in the Internet! --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0182 * Origin: Balmy Beach Toronto 416-690-9641 (1:250/422) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DEQ00005 Date: 10/20/96 From: DON BELL Time: 11:34am \/To: RON MAGED (Read 3 times) Subj: Amonia Problem! Re: Amonia Problem! > I think his major problem of waste is the fact that he has too many fish > for the size of his tank and the waste that is being produced due to too > many fish may be resolved if he either get a bigger tank or thin out the > number of fish he has. Also try vacuuming the gravel with a siphon setup which picks up the gravel , sucks out the waste and drops the gravel back to the bottom. Then replace the water with new fresh water, this should help the ammonia level drop. They also sell a net bag filled with ammonia attracting stones in it which you lay on the bottom of the tank until the toxic level subsides. I know these ways work as I just cured a pals tank with ultra high ammonia levels using these techniques! --- VFIDO 7.12 * Origin: The Black Bass BBS from Greater Downtown Moonachie, NJ 1:2604/124) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DEQ00006 Date: 10/18/96 From: ADRIAN WORLEY Time: 02:37am \/To: JOHN MORSE (Read 3 times) Subj: Chinese Algae Eaters. Hi John, 13-Oct-96 18:45:00, John Morse wrote to Adrian Worley Subject: Chinese Algae Eaters. JM> Yes Adrian. Most good Aquarium Stores will tell you that Algae Eaters JM> suck the slim that protects the fish from getting sick! I have been JM> told of this by more then one person and this is why I use Pleco's in JM> my tanks! AW>> Does anyone out there have any evidence to support this behaviour? JM> You can go and talk with the people at your local Aquarium store JM> and I'm sure they will tell you the same thing. Yes, I'm sure they would. Trouble is, these stories have been drifting about for some years now, so are the people in the shops passing on good advice, or old wives tales. What I was actually after was some evidence, ie. someone who has actually /seen/ this happen, so far, no one who has told me about this, has had it happen in their tank, it was something they /heard/. Incidently, your first sentance talks about good aquarium stores, in England, the specialist aquarium shop is rapidly becoming a thing of the passed. Two things seem to have killed all but the most persistant places. Firstly, the boom in mail order. All of the hobby publications carry adverts, often several pages, from the large mail order places which can purchase in bulk, at discount from the equipment etc. manufacturers, and hence can offer prices that the smaller shop just can't hope to compete with. Secondly, and IMHO bizarrely, there has been an enormous influx of tropical fish outlets in garden centres. In most cases, the stock is of poor quality, badly kept, badly displayed and sold by spotty herberts who haven't the faintest idea what they are doing. I'm glad you still have good local shops, if you want to keep them, use them, otherwise you'll end up in the same boat as us. :-( All the best, Adrian... --- Terminate 3.00 * Origin: Adrian's point. (2:252/820.9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DEQ00007 Date: 10/20/96 From: RON MAGED Time: 09:23pm \/To: DON BELL (Read 3 times) Subj: Amonia Problem! DB>Re: Amonia Problem! DB>> I think his major problem of waste is the fact that he has too many fish DB>> for the size of his tank and the waste that is being produced due to too DB>> many fish may be resolved if he either get a bigger tank or thin out the DB>> number of fish he has. DB>Also try vacuuming the gravel with a siphon setup which picks up the ravel DB>sucks out the waste and drops the gravel back to the bottom. Then replace DB>water with new fresh water, this should help the ammonia level drop. They DB>also sell a net bag filled with ammonia attracting stones in it which you DB>on the bottom of the tank until the toxic level subsides. I know these ays DB>work as I just cured a pals tank with ultra high ammonia levels using hese DB>techniques! Good advice but I didn't write this. * OLX 2.1 TD * meter of interest: --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: The Mad Hatter's Tea Party * (602)220-9045 (1:114/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DEQ00008 Date: 10/20/96 From: RON MAGED Time: 09:23pm \/To: DONALD WAHL (Read 3 times) Subj: Aquarium stand DW>I just purchased a 38G All Glass Aquarium (36"x12"x20") and a stand made DW>from what looks like 2x4s. When I put the aquarium on the stand and put DW>water in it the bottom of the aquarium is not touching the stand in DW>several places. In fact I can run a sheet of paper between the top of DW>the stand and the tank in several places. Is the aquarium designed for a DW>stand like this or am I tempting fate? Try putting a large piece of styrofoam between the tank and the stand. Most aquarium stores not only recommend this but also sell the styrofoam as well. Let me know if this helps, OK?? * OLX 2.1 TD * Sysop: The guy laughing at your typing. --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: The Mad Hatter's Tea Party * (602)220-9045 (1:114/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DER00000 Date: 10/21/96 From: JAMES MCGRAIL Time: 02:15am \/To: DONALD WAHL (Read 2 times) Subj: Aquarium stand DW> I just purchased a 38G All Glass Aquarium (36"x12"x20") and a stand made DW> from what looks like 2x4s. When I put the aquarium on the stand and put DW> water in it the bottom of the aquarium is not touching the stand in DW> several places. In fact I can run a sheet of paper between the top of DW> the stand and the tank in several places. Is the aquarium designed for a DW> stand like this or am I tempting fate? Sounds like the top 2x4s are warped. If possible take it back and get a replacement. But a 38 gal tank should be able to take the slight stress, this may cause and the stand may fix itself, under the weight of the full tank. Esp if the clearance is only the thickness of a sheet of paper or so. The big thing is, are the for corners of the tank supported? --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.00t * Origin: Xanth BBS - Wildcat - Sacramento CA 916-264-1826 (1:203/996) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DER00001 Date: 10/21/96 From: JAMES MCGRAIL Time: 02:19am \/To: SHAWN VANDERBURGT (Read 2 times) Subj: Breeding Zebra Danios SV> I was trying to breed a pair of Zebra Dannios that I had. I put SV> marbles down on the bottom, to protect the eggs and waited. Well I SV> eventually noticed that there were tiny little white things swimming SV> around on the surface of the water. They were very very small. I bought SV> some liquid food to feed them and have been feeding them that for about SV> 1 month. The thing is, they haven't grown at all. Now I'm not sure if SV> they are actually baby fish or not. How fast do Zebra Dannio frye grow? SV> Any help here would be appreciated, thanks. Use a magnifying glass and see if they look like fish. They should have at least doubled or tripled their size by now. They may be micro worms or other small pest. Normally, for most egg layer fry, they fry stay on the bottom or find a hiding place, not swimming on the surface. --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.00t * Origin: Xanth BBS - Wildcat - Sacramento CA 916-264-1826 (1:203/996) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DER00002 Date: 10/21/96 From: JAMES MCGRAIL Time: 02:26am \/To: LARRY DORMAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Chinese Algae Eaters. LD> I think I can agree with all of this... I had an angel in my tank that LD> wasa quite large and had been put in the tank at the same time as my LD> chinese algae eater. I'd never seen them even close to each other... LD> However, one evening I saw the CAE chase the angel and thought it was LD> quite strange... the next morning the angel was dead... I didn't LD> examine it closely to see the circles, but would feel pretty confident LD> that is what happened. I'm starting to wonder, hearing 2 different stories about their behavior. Plus having one very large C A eater in the past, that never did this. 1. Are we taking about 2 different fish, sold under the same name? or 2. The possibility, that the fish is only going after a sick fish, to begin with? Depending on the sickness/problem the attacked fish may have, it may be producing excessive slime and the CAE is just attracted to a fish that is dieing to begin with. Jim --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.00t * Origin: Xanth BBS - Wildcat - Sacramento CA 916-264-1826 (1:203/996) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DER00003 Date: 10/21/96 From: JAMES MCGRAIL Time: 02:39am \/To: DON BELL (Read 2 times) Subj: Convicts DB> I was given a 1/2 dozen convict fish from a friend of mine from work and th DB> seem to be doing quite well in the tank and growing. The problem I am havin DB> is that I want to add color to the tank besides the black and silver stripe DB> of this breed. I have asked at pet stores in the area, but haven't gotten a DB> real responses as to what can co-exist in the same tank as these fish. I wa DB> told they were cichlids or fin nippers and are pretty aggressive so I had t DB> be careful as to what I put in with them. If given enough room, convicts can be pretty peaceful, as cichlids go. Many medium fish may be put in with them, as long as they are sturdy fish. Even though many of the more common cichlid that can be placed with them tend to be the same colors. But there are the cichlids with the blue color like jack dempseys or blue acaras etc. Plus some of the medium size tetras etc can be kept with convicts, fish 3 to 5 inches long or so. Delicate fish are a no no, I've seen convicts, slowly pick the scales off of gold fish, that were three times there size. :-) Was given a few 5 to 7 inch long gold fish and not having a tank set up for them, I put them in with a few 2 inch convict while I got a tank ready. The gold fish didn't think it was funny. cichlids have a thing for gold colored fish. --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.00t * Origin: Xanth BBS - Wildcat - Sacramento CA 916-264-1826 (1:203/996) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DER00004 Date: 10/18/96 From: ADRIAN WORLEY Time: 10:07pm \/To: JEFF WRIGHT (Read 2 times) Subj: Chinese Algae Eaters. Hi Jeff, 15-Oct-96 15:00:18, Jeff Wright wrote to Adrian Worley Subject: Chinese Algae Eaters. AW>> Does anyone out there have any evidence to support this behaviour? JW> I had a Chinese algae eater attack and kill a large male blue JW> gourami JW> (Trichogaster trichopterus) and two large dwarf gouramis (Colisa chuna). JW> When JW> I came in near the end of the attack, the algae eater had attached itself JW> to JW> the gourami. The gourami itself had sustained several large circular JW> wounds, JW> and shortly died. The two dwarf gouramis were both severely spooked, and JW> both JW> wounded; one had a circular injury on it's caudal peduncle, and the other JW> had JW> one on it's flank. Both died within the week. Thanks Jeff, that was exactly the kind of account I was after. I tend to be a little sceptical of 'stories' which I hear from people who have 'heard' things, from people who 'read something'...etc. All the best, Adrian... --- Terminate 3.00 * Origin: Adrian's point. 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