--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DCS00000 Date: 08/22/96 From: PHYLLIS WOO Time: 12:23pm \/To: NICK LENARDON (Read 2 times) Subj: Fish Tanks Hi Nick Sorry for taking so long to respond to your message and yes I still have the tanks and what size are you looking for? Phyllis --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The Ghost Hotel (819)682-2618 (1:243/84) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DCS00001 Date: 08/21/96 From: NICK ENGELS Time: 08:55pm \/To: ANNE MCREARY (Read 2 times) Subj: angelfish AM> Probably a lot less than you are willing to sell to me for :-) When AM> George comes out of my wallet he brings out a Cross and yells "Bright AM> Light, Bright Light" I understand that big time...the bank owns more of me than I do right now. AM> There was a series of messages that Sam McDaniel posted a few days ago AM> that were all about raising Angel Fish. MOST HELPFUL in my time of AM> "need". I got it, thanks...it was very well written. I have raised angels but not in the scale he is talking about, his system looks very good for making a few dollars along the way. ttyl Snubber --- Ezycom V1.20 * Origin: Snubber's Spot (206)841-2692, Puyallup WA (1:138/210) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DCS00002 Date: 08/22/96 From: DAN LAFLIN Time: 01:39pm \/To: JOHN DAILEY (Read 2 times) Subj: Tin Foil Barbs On (20 Aug 96) John Dailey Rambled On To Adrian Worley... JD> I dunno if I wanna do that, after all the water-treatment JD> chemicals I've stuck in this tank! :) Uh..... how many "water treatment" chemicals are used to purify that tap water you drink all the time? ;-) Ah Tin Foils, I miss the 8 and 9 inch pair i had in a 60 gal years ago. ... Darth Moderator: LEEAVE THAAT TO MEE. ___ Messenger V1.2 [Unreg] --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: No CAT'S Allowed Area!! (1:374/46.4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DCS00003 Date: 08/22/96 From: DAN LAFLIN Time: 01:42pm \/To: CALVIN LITTLEFIELD (Read 2 times) Subj: A great new area... f On (19 Aug 96) Calvin Littlefield Rambled On To John Dailey... -=> Quoting John Dailey to All <=- JD> I've been hunting for freshwater books at the local petstores without JD> much luck other than a 12-page, two-color informational doo-jobbie. CL> Try your local used book stores, especially the warehouse-style CL> ones. I dropped about $20 in one recently and came home with an CL> armload of good refernce works...almost $150 worth if purchased new! Even New book stores can have bargains, book stop, books a million, b dalton, Waldens, etc every now and then sell Hardbacks of stock not moving/old at low prives, recently picked up some Trek books in Hb, for 1.99 where cover was 19.95-24.95, and NEW condition. It pays to look all over, of course the cheapest place is the public library ;-) JD> Ps. - Strange, my Fancy Angel fish aren't agressive at all... in fact, JD> they're the most peacful in the tank! :) Is this odd? CL> Depends on what else is in the tank, water conditions, etc. I've CL> been told that you shouldn't put more than one type of fancy-finned CL> fish together...I've had bettas in community tanks succesfully, but CL> I'd never put one in with a fancy angel. In my 20 I have a large CL> angel (4" long and about 5 1/2" tall) with a few guppies, an Fancy angels can be put with other fish, if their not the type to Fin Nip, also tank space is important. I had 4 angels in with gouramis, pleco, head and tail lights, and 2 Tin Foil Barbs w/o any problems. Danios, and other fin nippers should be left out. CL> Angel gets along with everyone except the female tetra who CL> occasionally has delusions of being a Jack Dempsey. I named her CL> Rosanne. :) Angel gives her a wide berth in spite of being 5 or 6 Hah! I aviod tetras with the long finned fancy angels, regular angels do ok with tetras, but those longer finned fancys seem to bring out the nipping in some tetras. ... "Did ya put the cat out?" "I didn't know it was burning" ___ Messenger V1.2 [Unreg] --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: No CAT'S Allowed Area!! (1:374/46.4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DCS00004 Date: 08/22/96 From: DAN LAFLIN Time: 01:50pm \/To: SIMON WOODLAND (Read 2 times) Subj: HELP On (20 Aug 96) Simon Woodland Rambled On To ALL... SW> Hi ALL, SW> I have a Tank about 1 and a Half foot by a foot SW> I have 12 platys and 3 cherry barbs in there at the moment SW> Being new to to tropical fish I read somewhere that I should SW> put salt in the water for the platys. SW> Will that harm the cherry barbs ? It will KILL them. DO NOT put salt in with freshwater fish, whoever told you to put salt in is a ignoramus. The only use for salt in freshwater is in a desperate try to clear up parastics in Fw, and it is tricky, some FW fish can stand a little salt, others will belly up with a little salt. My air pumps on all the time. ... ***** WARNING ***** Brain cramp in progress! ___ Messenger V1.2 [Unreg] --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: No CAT'S Allowed Area!! (1:374/46.4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DCT00000 Date: 08/23/96 From: GREG KUBEJA Time: 06:12am \/To: BOB BRINSFIELD (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Cichlids BB> The size of the tank had everything to do with it. Imagine someone BB> trying to force you to live in a shoe box. That'd make you a bit cranky BB> I'm sure. I wouldn't recommend anything less than 55g for one oscar let BB> alone 2. They grow very fast and eat as much as you want to feed them. BB> BB> Oscars are not normally aggressive with the people taking care of the BB> tank. Especially when kept alone in the tank, or with other fish. BB> I had one Oscar in a tank with gouramis and 2 silver dollars. The BB> Oscar never bothered his tankmates and never tried to bite me. The only BB> aggressive behavior I ever saw out of him was towards his food. BB> BB> All I had to do was walk in the room and he would swim to the top of BB> the tank looking like a dog whose master has come home. They do tend to BB> rearrange the tank decor to fit their needs, dig up the gravel bed a bit BB> and make a mess of the water while eating but beyond all of that they BB> are wonderful fish. BB> that sounds just like mine, does the exact same thing. I have 1 Cichlid and o sucker fish that have been together since i first got him and every so oftern he will "play" with them kids will be kids --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: |04F.F.I.A. We like it wet and hot (717)838-8515 (1:270/330) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DCT00001 Date: 08/22/96 From: SAM MCDANIEL Time: 02:00pm \/To: CAROL BURKE (Read 2 times) Subj: Angelfish my way Page 1 ship away... ill publish sam --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Data Resource Independence, Missouri 816-254-8146 14,400 (1:280/112) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DCT00002 Date: 08/22/96 From: SAM MCDANIEL Time: 02:43pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: aquatimes 1 Aquatimes Publisher/Reporter Sam Mcdaniel Data Resource BBS Page 1 Editor/Reporter Allisanne Fleitman Self Help BBS Editor/Reporter James McGrail Xnath BBS Editor/Reporter Bob Hall InterNet/Mark & Anna's Place II BBS Aquatimes First Edition (c) copyright 1994 All Rights Reserved (sm) 12/20/1994 AQUATIMES --------- Let me welcome you to our news letter and congratulate you on becoming a member of the FIDONET ELECTRONIC AQUARIUM ECHO SOCIETY. Since this is a first time experience for myself, editors and our lectronic society, we would like to hear from you with ideas of what topics this letter should cover. Post them on the echo please. Each month we will try to include columns "short info bursts" if you will, on diseases, equipment, water treatments, plants etc and a fish species of he month, saltwater and freshwater. ICHTHYOLOGY a little History **************************** by Sam McDaniel Written history of Ichthyology "Study of fish" goes back a long way. In fact it coincides with Zoology which claims its start with Aristotle round 384-322 bc. Aristotle himself had a fairly accurate knowledge of the general structures of fish. In fact he correctly distinguished them from aquatic mammals and other sea life. The information he wrote down on their methods of propagation, time of propagation and special characteristics was quite accurate. His only apparent downfall was he used local names, gathered from fishermen and they change from generation to generation. In the end he gathered information on 115 species living in the Aegean Sea. For about the next 1800 years those who followed Aristotle seemed to be content to copy his methods spiced up with tales of their own. The first real works of observation started in around 1517-1575 with a man named Pierre Belon and several others. His observation of fish and written records were almost entirely limited to the species of the Mediterranean Sea. In 1628 two men, John Ray and Francis Willoughby made the first real attempt to bring things together by arranging animals into groupings on the basis of their structure. The most important investigative writings of early Ichthyologists was that of Peter Artedi 1705-1735. This is the man known as the father of chthyology. This man had an uncanny understanding of the relationships of the species and concepts of the groups above the species. His papers published after his eath in 1778 was titled Artedi's Ichthyology. School Aquarium Science Project an Echo First! ********************************************** A few months ago Pat Wright, an echo member and school teacher introduced his science class to our echo. The intent being, to promote an Aquarium Science project and expose his students to the power of the telecomputing. A class project was launched with Mandy requesting answers and uggestions from our echo. Since this was a first time try on our echo, I'm glad to eport that the project was a success. Echo and Society members responded and First Prize in the school science fair was won. On to district! Good Luck! --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Data Resource Independence, Missouri 816-254-8146 14,400 (1:280/112) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DCT00003 Date: 08/22/96 From: SAM MCDANIEL Time: 02:43pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: aquatimes 2 Hook Line & Sinker Page 2 ****************** "Read the books before you buy your fish!" Fresh Water Species of the Month ******************************** By Sam McDaniel Guppies, one of the most popular aquarium fish is also known as the mosquito or millions fish. Anyone whom has raised this fish can testify that two fish can turn into hundreds in a very short while. Guppies were one of the first fish to be raised in captivity and bred up, from a rather mundane species hat live in drainage ditches, to the very fancy and colorful fish we have today. Bright gaudy colors streak around the tank and never seem to rest. The males with long fancy feather like tales court females while you watch. The original guppies in nature some guess, were found in the islands of the southern Caribbean Sea and as far south as southern Brazil. As early as 1927 Olaf Winge and Johannes Schmidt were the first scientists to deal with the guppy and color gene transmission. Winges paper described 18 genes for various cadual fin variations and color patterns. With selective breeding programs, even the bland female now shows her colors when she reaches breeding age. Diseases of Guppies: Worms can be a big problem in a guppy population. Camallanus especially, a red orange intestinal round worm or nematode can be a problem. Lernaea cyprinacea, the anchor worm attacks guppies also. Other common diseases in guppies include Popeye, internal fungus, bacterial kidney disease and Piscine Tuberculosis. Another disease common to guppies is another protozoan called Oodinium or VELVET. The most common disease of the guppy however is ICK. Requirements: Temperature 75-80f pH 6.6 to 7.6 DH hardness 4-5 Filters UGF, Outside power filters, or UGF's with power heads Water changes weekly 10% to 25% and gravel cleanings Community Tank Environment Live plants are a nice touch with water sprite offering maybe the best conditions for guppies. References: Guppies by Jack Harris, Fish Diseases by Dr. Gottfried Schubert --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Data Resource Independence, Missouri 816-254-8146 14,400 (1:280/112) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 229 AQUARIUMS Ref: DCT00004 Date: 08/22/96 From: SAM MCDANIEL Time: 02:43pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: aquatimes 3 Salt Water species of the Month Page 3 ******************************* By Sam McDaniel Clown Fish and Demoiselles These small fish are found in tropical seas everywhere, in the shallows and around the reefs. The are closely related to the Cichlids and have one ostril on each side of their head. Many of their mannerisms are observed in their freshwater cousins. They can be extremely territorial and defend their homes with great ferocity. Most can be found by themselves or in shoals above the reef head, and can quickly disappear when predators come around. Others like the Clown fish use the poisonous sea anemones and maintain a symbiotic relationship. For the beginner saltwater aquarium they make an ideal fish, as they uickly settle into the aquarium life style and they are inexpensive. If you house more than one they can become combative among themselves, though serious damage seldom occurs. They are highly colored and can range from apple green, red, o violet including a striped coloration. Tank: Saltwater Food: Dried commercial foods supplemented with live food on occasion. Environment: Community Tank live rock, coral and anemones are ideal Water: There are several excellent prepared sea salt mixes on the market Equipment: Protein Skimmer, heater, thermometer, ultra violet Sterilizer, Ozone Reactor Lighting: Quartz Halogen is recommended, Florescent is not as over the long term they may be harmful to the fish and inverts. Nitrates: A close watch is recommended Base Medium: Crushed Shell, aquarium gravel non colored, Crushed coral, Silica sand or Coral Sand Filtration: UGF, power filtration, Omnilogical filtration natural filtration Disease: Nitrate poisoning common in new setups. Genera includes: Abudefduf Dascyllus Microspanthadon Pomacentrus Amphiprion Eupomacentrus Neopomacentrus Chromis Glyphidondontops Paraglyphidodon Reference Material: The Tropical Marine Aquarium By Vincent B. Hargreaves --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Data Resource Independence, Missouri 816-254-8146 14,400 (1:280/112)