--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 228 GRAND ROUNDS Ref: D5K00009 Date: 05/09/96 From: SCOTT TAYLOR Time: 05:40pm \/To: GABI FORD (Read 3 times) Subj: Warm Iv Fluids I work in central New Hampshire - not sure of your location - maybe we're just more prone to colder pts!!!! C-ya! --- * Origin: Granite State EMS Cooperative BBS 603-529-1948 (1:132/260) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 228 GRAND ROUNDS Ref: D5K00010 Date: 05/09/96 From: CHRIS JONES Time: 06:29am \/To: BERT QUILLIN (Read 3 times) Subj: Grand Rounds BQ>Yes, the circumcision "pony" did have its interesting points. It just got BQ>to the point where it seemed so many people thought it was on the best BQ>seller list, or something, and just couldn't get to the last page. BQ>An interesting thing happened to a friend of mine recently. He is just a BQ>kid in his early seventies, but I still can't fathom how it could happen. BQ>While taking a shower, he was washing the foreskin, as any half smart BQ>uncircumcised male would do, when the darn thing got stuck in the cocked BQ>position. That is an interesting story! When I was working at a state institution for the mentally retarded I had a profoundly retarded young male suffer the same problem. He had been "cocked" for 72 hours before the higher ups decided to send us to the county hospital (Miami, Fl.) Since we couldn't get pants on the poor man we had to wrap him in a blanket. Normally Jackson Memorial has about a four hour wait even if you are dying. But, I told the aide with me not to interfere with our young patient and that I would take care of things. In about two minutes, he was jumping on the chairs and taking his blanket off. What should have been a 4 hours wait turned out to be 4 minutes! The doctor in this case, decided to remove a valve in the one of the man's veins. The good side was that his problem would be solved. The bad side was that he would never "cock" his gun again. Well, his mom was beside herself! What if her 24 year old, profoundly retarded son, who was living in a state institution do if he decided to get married and have children?! After the doc. promised if that ever happened, sonny boy would get an artificial valve implant at no cost, did the operation proceede! BQ> CJ> I'm a health services assistant in a day program for mentally BQ> CJ> handicapped children and adults. I mostly do motor therapy for adults BQ> CJ> with physical handicaps. BQ>Quite a mix. Must be very interesting. Not sure what motor therapy is, but BQ>a few years ago, I had extensive therapy for a back problem. Even though BQ>it was later learned that the difficulty was Spinal Stenosis. While the BQ>therapy should really have had no beneficial affect, (according to the BQ>doctor) certain portions of the treatment did reduce the pain level a reat BQ>deal. At that time for extended periods, but now I hurt all the time. It is an interesting mix. The motor therapy is range of motion and gait training and strengthening exercises mostly. I do the same work as a Physical Therapist for about 1/5 the pay! BQ> CJ> I pass BQ> CJ> medication, do first aid, and serve on the in-house medical crisis BQ> CJ> team. I am a Red Cross CPR and First Aid Instructor. BQ>Never got past what was then called an Advanced First Aid card, but it BQ>really didn't make all that much difference. Seems like I was always aking BQ>care of someone, or doing some radical medical procedure (for a layman) BQ>out of necessity. When you were a state policeman in the foot hills of the BQ>Cascade Mountains in the mid forties, this can happen with fair gularity. I'll be you did some radical sorts of things out on the road like that! So far the most interesting to me was helping remove sutures. Probably the smartest was to make sure that a woman who had just falled wasn't improperly moved. She had a broken femur and would have bled out otherwise. BQ> CJ> When I'm not playing at medicine at work, I also try to keep myself n BQ> CJ> line as a diabetic of 23 years and have had coronary artery disease BQ> CJ> for the last 5 years. BQ>I can relate to that Chris. While I am not a diabetic myself (yet), my BQ>father was for nearly 40 years. His father, my paternal grand father, died BQ>of the disease in 1914. Dad was diagnosed as a diabetic back in the days BQ>when the medical profession was still treating the disease pretty much on BQ>an experimental basis. Couldn't begin to tell you how many times I had to BQ>help him when he had an insulin reaction, but it began when I was still a BQ>young boy and continued till the day he died at age 70. That was 34 years BQ>ago. 1914 wasn't a good year to be diabetic! It's still pretty experimental, as things go. I'm taking a combination of oral medications, and two different insulins. Sounds like you got passed by on the diabetes though. COngratulations!! BQ>Sound like me. I also search for and disseminate information to friends nd BQ>acquaintance that have physical problems. So it keeps me busy searching or BQ>things anywhere between chelation therapy and Guillian Barre'. Ah chelation! That would start (in the beginning) some interesting message threads! --- * OLX 2.2 TD * I don't have the solution but I admire the problem. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: 3-Angels bbs Covington,Oh 513-473-5465 1:110/725 (1:110/725.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 228 GRAND ROUNDS Ref: D5K00011 Date: 05/04/96 From: KURT ULLMAN Time: 09:51am \/To: GABI FORD (Read 3 times) Subj: Le Grand Hoax GF>want any more cards...and wishes people would forget about him. As does most of cyberspace(g) * SLMR 2.1a * World coming to end; on-line time will be adjusted. --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/M 10 * Origin: IBMNet Connection BBS, Indpls.,IN 317-882-5575 All nodes v34+ (1:231/875) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 228 GRAND ROUNDS Ref: D5K00012 Date: 05/08/96 From: GABI FORD Time: 04:05pm \/To: WALTER MITTLER (Read 3 times) Subj: BLOOD COUNTS WM> GF> they ever discover what made you anemic? WM> With 900 mg of iron there has been some improvement. But all of WM> a sudden I am puffing again. No they have not found anything WM> yet. for the time being I am balking at the thought of WM> exploratory abdominal surgery. Any clue what they suspect? Are they saying anything about spleen? Bone marrow? Kidneys? WM> GF> BTW... Erika sends her best. WM> I reciprocate and hope she will pick up a thread in Deutsch. She will be happy to hear. Do you remember Heinz Engler? * SLMR 2.1 * Santa Claus is drunk -- in the ski room. --- * Origin: (1:152/28) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 228 GRAND ROUNDS Ref: D5K00013 Date: 05/10/96 From: GABI FORD Time: 06:50pm \/To: DICK HAFER (Read 3 times) Subj: WEGENER'S GRANULAR MYATO DH>@SUBJECT:Wegerner's Granular Myatosis N DH>We agreed to (actually requested) an autopsy, in hope that it would add to t DH>fund of information and perhaps help others in the future. I'm sorry you lost your daughter. It's a terrible thing to have to bury one's child. This happened to my sister a couple of years back, and I don't think she will ever recover. As to Wegener's -- I have no new information for you. But I am curious what was found during the autopsy. In what ways did it confirm the diagnosis, and were you given a report? Or was the diagnosis not sure until after the autopsy? Also, I think your attitude about the autopsy is commendable. I recently observed a couple of those...and am aware what a great teaching/learning experience they are for everyone. DH>(We do not blame the doctor, even though several people suggested that we su DH>for malpractice, since he didn't recognize the disease. That is nonsense. He DH>human, like all of us. His knowledge is finite. We have been led to understa DH>that there are only about 25 cases a year in the U.S.. He had never seen a c DH>and the hospital had never seen a case. How can we blame him?) How refreshing to see this kind of attitude. As you know, the symptoms of Wegener's tend to be, especially at first, rather vague and resembling the flu. Like you say, doctors are not infallible, and they feel terrible when they make a mistake or error in judgment. All health care workers do. And the pressure to be perfect is tremendous. I think you have reconciled your terrible situation as best as anyone could. I'm sure you gained the respect and admiration of anyone who became aware of your situation and the way you handled it. * SLMR 2.1 * I'd rather be on-line --- * Origin: (1:152/28) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 228 GRAND ROUNDS Ref: D5K00014 Date: 05/11/96 From: GABI FORD Time: 08:54pm \/To: KURT ULLMAN (Read 3 times) Subj: LE GRAND HOAX KU>GF>want any more cards...and wishes people would forget about him. KU> As does most of cyberspace(g) heheheheheh Yes....except, every so often somebody falls for it...and it's a kind of virtual communal feeling to do the "oh, nooooooo" - knowing people all over the globe are doing it, too. :) * SLMR 2.1 * It's A Big Old Goofy World --- * Origin: (1:152/28) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 228 GRAND ROUNDS Ref: D5K00015 Date: 05/13/96 From: GABI FORD Time: 10:40am \/To: DAVE RAY (Read 3 times) Subj: ALIENS & HEALTH DR> Well, he did provide a copy of the article afterwards to back up his DR> facts, but his use of the racist term "wetback" showed his real DR> motives. I know damn well the paper where he got the article didn't use DR> that word! They probably have a good reputation to uphold. :) DR> GF> * SLMR 2.1 * It was Christmas Eve, babe, in the drunk tank DR> Gotta know where this came from. hehehe The Pogues * SLMR 2.1 * Keep On Rocking in the Free World --- * Origin: (1:152/28) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 228 GRAND ROUNDS Ref: D5K00016 Date: 05/14/96 From: GABI FORD Time: 10:58am \/To: CLAYTON DAVIS (Read 3 times) Subj: PACEMAKERS CD>I have a Medtronics 7070 pacemaker implanted. How often should I expect o CD>have it tested? I would also like to hear from anyone else wearing one. I don't have a pacemaker - yet. :) But I am a nurse on a cardiac unit, and we have many, many pacemaker patients. You should have been given a booklet at the time of the procedure, detailing the type of pacer you have and the kind of testing schedule recommended. There are so many types of units pacing the heart in different ways, it's hard to give a universal schedule. You should call the doctor who implanted the pacer. His nurse can likely look up the information for you. * SLMR 2.1 * The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing --- * Origin: (1:152/28) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 228 GRAND ROUNDS Ref: D5K00017 Date: 05/14/96 From: MATT SMITH Time: 10:05pm \/To: ROBERT KEITH (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: HEALTH INSURANCE RK> Now you're being foolish. Of course I haven't talked to all RK> Canadians. I RK> said that I have yet to meet a Canadian who would trade their system RK> for RK> ours. What investigative processes have you conducted to support your RK> position? You say "there are plenty who would choose....", and there RK> are RK> plenty in this country who would not trade...". How can you make RK> such an assertions without some data? There are millions in this RK> country RK> who would trade the system, or lack of system, that we have for RK> almost RK> anything else. What you are doing is parroting the hackneyed RK> propaganda RK> that the insurance industry and medical profession have been throwing RK> at us When you, like me, are a _daily_ listener to the foreign broadcasts of a country (Israel) with a health-alliance style health-financing system, you will be more credible in your assertion that such systems "work"...after you are aware of the Israeli system's perennial strikes, patient-service cuts, and cost overruns!! --- Simplex BBS (v1.07.00Beta [DOS]) * Origin: NighthawkBBS, Burlington NC 910-228-7002 HST Dual (1:3644/6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 228 GRAND ROUNDS Ref: D5K00018 Date: 05/15/96 From: MATT SMITH Time: 06:49pm \/To: DAVE RAY (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Aliens & Health DR> DR> MS> The principal cause of the epidemic: 80% of the plants' 900 DR> Mexican DR> DR> MS> immigrant workers were unvaccinated. DR> DR> MS> Either most all of the workers involved are wetbacks or DR> there DR> DR> DR> This is a demeaning and racist remark. Kinda blows the whole DR> point of DR> DR> what you are trying to say. All of this sounds anecdotal anyway. DR> DR> Well, he did provide a copy of the article afterwards to back up his DR> facts, but his use of the racist term "wetback" "Wetback" is not a racial slur. It applies only to illegal aliens, but is inapplicable to Mexican-Americans born in East L.A. People on other echoes even point out that Mexican-Americans use the term for illegally-here Latinos. DR> Or a more open mind. It is true that illegal immigrants do bring DR> their DR> health problems with them. In health care facilities here and in DR> Texas I DR> have encountered TB, Rubella and a host of other diseases not DR> normally DR> seen in our "resident" population. Look at N.Y.C. for an even bigger example of how illegal immigration (and legal immigration with no real medical checks) brings in nonresident iseases. I favor having every immigrant have his shots again the first day he is here! --- Simplex BBS (v1.07.00Beta [DOS]) * Origin: NighthawkBBS, Burlington NC 910-228-7002 HST Dual (1:3644/6)