--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: E5^00000 Date: 05/29/97 From: FRAN WARWICK Time: 09:48pm \/To: LINDA WATKINS (Read 0 times) Subj: Hi LW> Stopped to say hello. LW> All the birds I have left are fine. Blue Front are on 3 eggs LW> so far. LW> Life has taken a traggic turn for me and I've been out of my mind. LW> My youngest son passed away Aug. of 95. I've been gone that long. LW> I'm in the process of moving to Erie and hope to get back on line LW> then.Send me your address and I'll explain. Linda, Claire is trying to get hold of you but doesn't have your phone umber. I gave her your mailing address, so she will be in touch. Fran --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Wings Over Texas (1:382/92.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: E5^00001 Date: 05/30/97 From: FRAN WARWICK Time: 01:28pm \/To: LINDA WATKINS (Read 0 times) Subj: Mealy Linda, LW> Thanks for your help. The birds have helped to a certain LW> extent. I have 4 eggs now and am anxious to hand feed again, LW> It will keep my mind focused on other things. I had planned to mov LW> sooner, but with these eggs it will push me up to the end of July. Handfeeding will definately do that. I am handfeeding some Red Head chicks and some Moustache. I have waited a loooog time for those little Red Heads. Are you Still working at the same place? Claire doesn't have access to a BBS anymore and so she hasn't been here in a while. She didn't want her phone number posted, but if you want to me and get it you are welcome. It is 512-281-2090. TTYL, Fran --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Wings Over Texas (1:382/92.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: EA100000 Date: 05/30/97 From: TRAFFIC V. 2.00 Time: 10:10pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Traffic Report ********************************************************************* * Birdsoft Poster Record for Area: PARROTS * * Messages received by Birdsoft Online (1:135/907) * * Sun, May 18, 1997 - Fri, May 30, 1997 * * TRAFFIC v. 2.00 Alpha Version for OS/2 * ********************************************************************* Posts Name Average Size Address ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 4 Linda Watkins 576 1:129/112.0 4 KATHY JOHNSON 1024 1:2410/400 3 Chris Roedocker 1706 1:213/742.0 2 Trace Gerard 2560 1:2255/250 1 Cindy Spangler 768 1:2700/117 1 Fran Warwick 512 1:382/92.5 1 TRAFFIC v. 2.00 1024 1:135/907 1 Klaus Bosch 2048 2:2471/1071.13 1 Christine Labont 2304 1:163/551.0 Total = 18 by 9 authors. * Origin: Birdsoft Online, North Miami, Florida, USA (1:135/907) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: EA300000 Date: 06/02/97 From: CHRISTINE LABONT Time: 03:29pm \/To: TRACE GERARD (Read 0 times) Subj: birds TG> Your lovebird sounds adorable. I would love to have one if we TG> didn't already have a zoo. Do they grow out of the chewing stage? TG> My cockatiels haven't. I was told that the chewing phaze is an adolescent thing, but obviously not all outgrow it. My boyfriend's cockatiel still chomps down on a lot of things. They seem to be attracted to brightly coloured objects, as I have found out whenever I felt like putting on a bit of nail pollish (myself, not the birds! :) Almost got my thumb chewed off by an african grey at one of the pet shops! TG> In the den, and other places that they can get to, we have plastic TG> tubing on all of the electrical cords. Plus, in the bathroom, TG> I've had to remove some silk plants because the birds keep triming TG> them. I haven't had to do that yet, thankfully! I don't let my lovebird loose in the apartment, because of the cats, but she does get some time to fly around my room, with the door closed, of course. As for plants, the 'tiel does like chewing on them, so we make sure that any plants are non-poisonous. TG> They love to chew paper. Seems to be a favorite here too. If I'm at the computer, Cricket will jump off my shoulder and start munching on any stray piece of paper around. She also likes to climb up on the keyboard, and gets very upset if I try to use it! TG> We keep a squirt gun in the rooms they normally go in to TG> discourage them being bad. I'd read that using squirt-guns on birds might make them shy away from having a shower. I tell Cricket "no" firmly, and if she insists on continuing, she goes back into her cage. TG> I thought that I had read that you could not keep parakets or TG> parrots in a cage with cockatiels, because they're too agressive TG> (especially the parakets), and can physically harm the tiels? Have TG> you read anything about this? I had been told this, but had also read they were compatible. So with this little bit of conflicting information, I talked to a few people, got the budgie, and just watched them carefully. They get along quite well, and the cage is more than large enough for the both of them. I asked about putting the lovebird in with them, but was told that since lovebirds can be very aggressive, in a parrot-like fashion, that it was best to keep them seperated. Depending on their personnalities, I might try to introduce Cricket to my Princess-Of-Wales parakeet, when I get it (heck, the parental pair haven't even layed yet, so I don't know when the heck I will be getting it! :) Chris --- timEd 1.10 * Origin: Acoustic Plains BBS. Gatineau, QC (1:163/551) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: EA300001 Date: 06/02/97 From: KLAUS BOSCH Time: 12:00am \/To: CHRIS ROEDOCKER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: gotta rant for a minute Chris Roedocker@1:213/742 ... 26.05.97 ... "Re: gotta rant for a minute" > > leg chain, KB>> may be possible! (in special cases) > NOT! A simple scare and opps! Broken leg! Leg chains are dangerous! > plain and simple! I have got other experiences. Its a question of person, who does it. > >cold wheather. KB>> how cold? is the question. Some Parrots live in nature in cold KB>> habitats. > From the story it is Montana? No, it is Michigan. Beside that: Parrots in the local zoo (Germany) can be visited in cold winterdays with snow in their outside aviary, although they have a warm house. They are used to the cold weather. > Parrots can live happy lives without the ablity to fly. What would YOU say, if "mars men" would attack the earth and would catch you and cut off your legs? You'd live a happy life??? > Oh, so if [...] my budgie is clipped [...] Budgies and parakeets never are to clip. When to clip, then a big parrot. But to clip is out!!! > Parrots are like children Parrots are animals, no children. KB>> no one should sentence about the other, > Sorry but I don't like this message at all! And I can't like your opinion. cu klAUS! --- CrossPoint v3.11 R * Origin: an elecTRONical mail from (2:2471/1071.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: EA500000 Date: 06/04/97 From: CHRIS ROEDOCKER Time: 08:49am \/To: KLAUS BOSCH (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: gotta rant for a minute -=> Quoting Klaus Bosch to Chris Roedocker <=- KB> minute" > > leg chain, KB>> may be possible! (in special cases) > NOT! A simple scare and opps! Broken leg! Leg chains are dangerous! > plain and simple! KB> I have got other experiences. Its a question of person, who does it. My opinon is simple. How would you lie it if you were chained on a clif and something scared you? Fall off the clif (mabey about 10ft not really that dangerous) and you broke your leg? > >cold wheather. KB>> how cold? is the question. Some Parrots live in nature in cold KB>> habitats. > From the story it is Montana? KB> No, it is Michigan. KB> Beside that: Parrots in the local zoo (Germany) can be visited in cold KB> winterdays with snow in their outside aviary, although they have a KB> warm house. They are used to the cold weather. Parrots can adapt yes, but it is still not a good idea to do it. > Parrots can live happy lives without the ablity to fly. KB> What would YOU say, if "mars men" would attack the earth and would KB> catch you and cut off your legs? You'd live a happy life??? Exuse me? One simple diffrence, bird fethers grow back legs do not. That part depends on person's prefences realy but to take it out it will be cliped or I won't take it out. > Oh, so if [...] my budgie is clipped [...] KB> Budgies and parakeets never are to clip. When to clip, then a big KB> parrot. But to clip is out!!! I think budgies are OK to clip. I had a favorite Budgie in the living room once, it wasn't cliped. It few away into our goffin's cockatoo's cage and got a nasty bite. It took a good 2.5 days to die. It experinced a long and painful death. All because he wasn't cliped! The chances for escape are mutpiled by hundreds if the bird is not cliped! > Parrots are like children KB> Parrots are animals, no children. to many people their animals are more than just animals. They are life-long compainons, friends, and children! I consider all of my birds family and they are all my children (Isn't that a day time Soap?) and I would give the world to keep them safe. KB>> no one should sentence about the other, Mabey not but still we can't let people abuse their animals. If you skin a cat in the US you have about a million people hating you for doing it, I'm one of them. We can't just let birds be mistreated like that! Plain and simple! > Sorry but I don't like this message at all! KB> And I can't like your opinion. Shure fine, whatever you feel. I'm shure that your bird needs some avacado and cola about now! Chris Roedocker chris.roedocker@libcom.dps.com The Bird-Brained BBS 674-1601 9p-10a PS: If you wan't me to give you my full opinons write me E-Mail, I don't want to step on any Moderator's toes. ... "Could you continue your petty bickering? I find it most intriguing." --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] * Origin: Library COM -* Reno, NV USA *- (702) 785-4191 (1:213/742) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: EAA00000 Date: 06/05/97 From: MIKE BOGER Time: 04:54pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Mini Bird Mart Hello Everyone! If you are going to be in the Tucson area, I'd like to invite all of you to our Mini Birt Mart. It is run by the Avicultural Society of Tucson, and will be held at the Christopher City Recreation Center, Tucson Room, June 15th, 1997- 9AM to 3PM. The Address is 3401 N. Columbus Blvd. (North of Ft. Lowell) Admission is just $2.00 for adults, free for children 15 and under if accompanied by an adult.... If you'd like to set up as a vendor, or would like more information please e-mail me at mike.boger@druid.playcom.com or mikeb5380@aol.com. Thanks! Mike Boger Avicultural Society of Tucson! --- Druid's Den BBS! * Origin: Busy "B" Aviary, Tucson AZ (520) 747-4841 (1:300/406) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: EAC00001 Date: 06/06/97 From: TRAFFIC V. 2.00 Time: 10:16pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Traffic Report ********************************************************************* * Birdsoft Poster Record for Area: PARROTS * * Messages received by Birdsoft Online (1:135/907) * * Sat, May 31, 1997 - Fri, Jun 6, 1997 * * TRAFFIC v. 2.00 Alpha Version for OS/2 * ********************************************************************* Posts Name Average Size Address ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2 Fran Warwick 896 1:382/92.5 1 Klaus Bosch 1536 2:2471/1071.13 1 Chris Roedocker 3328 1:213/742.0 1 Christine Labont 2816 1:163/551.0 Total = 5 by 4 authors. * Origin: Birdsoft Online, North Miami, Florida, USA (1:135/907) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: EAI00000 Date: 06/09/97 From: KLAUS BOSCH Time: 12:00am \/To: CHRIS ROEDOCKER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: gotta rant for a minute Chris Roedocker@1:213/742 ... 04.06.97 > My opinon is simple. How would you lie it if you were chained on a clif > and something scared you? Fall off the clif (mabey about 10ft not really > that dangerous) and you broke your leg? You cannot compare 1,80 m human with a 0,30 m animal. See child fall to the ground and an elderly man or woman... Parrots are so light, they effectively do not break a leg when flying off, leashed, and the keeper's reaction is well. [cold weather] > Parrots can adapt yes, but it is still not a good idea to do it. Yep. But consequently it would be not a good idea to take them to other countries like USA, Germany and so on. As we do so, we should let them adapt to our weather. KB>> What would YOU say, if "mars men" would attack the earth and would KB>> catch you and cut off your legs? You'd live a happy life??? > Exuse me? One simple difference, bird feathers grow back, legs do not. *But you will clip again* after the moult, won't you? By the way: there have been instances where amazons began to pluck their feathers after wing clipping! Clipping must be frustrating if the animal has been accustomed to flying a lot. KB>> Budgies and parakeets never are to clip. When to clip, then a big KB>> parrot. But to clip is out!!! > I think budgies are OK to clip. As far as I know, in Germany the clipping of budgies is not used at all! The reasons: Budgies can fly free in the living room without danger of pushing things down. They also cannot destroy furniture like bigger parrots do. > > Parrots are like children KB>> Parrots are animals, no children. > I consider all of my birds family and they are all my children Don't you (mis-) use your birds as children ersatz? KB>>> no one should sentence about the other, > Mabe not but still we can't let people abuse their animals. The person who points an outraged finger at other parrot keepers should remember that four fingers of his hand are pointing back at him. > We can't just let birds be mistreated like that! Plain and simple! And we shall admit when you clip budgies? Do you also clip flys, bugs and bees? To let them crabble on your shoulder? > I'm sure that your bird needs some avacado and cola about now! :-( How can you mean this??? Just those persons who keep parrots as children give them human food and drinks! Not me. > Chris Roedocker The name Chris is in Germany used male and female (Christian / Christiane). May I ask you what you are? > The Bird-Brained BBS ;-) Birds have small brains... > PS: If you want me to give you my full opinons write me E-Mail, I don't > want to step on any Moderator's toes. I don't think that Kathy has anything against our thread, as long as it is on topic. With your opinion you only step on my toes. ;-) have a nice day klAUS! --- CrossPoint v3.11 R * Origin: TRON-Box (2:2471/1071.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: EAJ00000 Date: 06/13/97 From: TRAFFIC V. 2.00 Time: 10:06pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Traffic Report ********************************************************************* * Birdsoft Poster Record for Area: PARROTS * * Messages received by Birdsoft Online (1:135/907) * * Sat, Jun 7, 1997 - Fri, Jun 13, 1997 * * TRAFFIC v. 2.00 Alpha Version for OS/2 * ********************************************************************* Posts Name Average Size Address ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1 Mike Boger 1024 1:300/406 1 Fran Warwick 512 1:382/92.5 Total = 2 by 2 authors. * Origin: Birdsoft Online, North Miami, Florida, USA (1:135/907)