--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: CEZ00002 Date: 10/29/95 From: PEGGY ENAX Time: 09:31pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Grey Cheek Parakeets Hello All! I was wondering if anyone had any information about Grey Cheek Parakeets and their legality in the US.. I used to own one several years ago, but have ben unable to locate one for quite a few years now. Someone told me that they are no longer legal in the US, but had no details as to why. Anyone know?? I am very interested in acquiring another one of these beautiful miniature parrots. Thanks in advance! --- * JABBER v1.2 * * Two things I hate: People that can't count. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: A DOG NAMED TAR HOUSTON TX. (713) 784-8731 (1:106/8731.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: CEZ00003 Date: 10/28/95 From: TOM WEISS Time: 11:42am \/To: ELLEN KESSLER (Read 4 times) Subj: Breeding question pairing On 10-2295, ELLEN KESSLER wrote to TOM WEISS: EK> Some female birds can act like drunken sailors too if they've been EK> without male companionship for too long! I've heard that ... but my 'male' has been DNA'd. EK> Then again, there's always incompatibility no matter how hard you EK> try! My Goffin's cockatoo male is working on his second mate and EK> they're incompatible as night and day.. Same with the first one (who EK> was returned to her real home after three months of trying....) EK> EK> I also have a pair of Greys I think are incompatible, but I have to EK> be sure of that by putting up the nestbox. EK> EK> My spectacled amazon pair tolerate each other. They've been together EK> for nearly three years and rarely sit on the same perch, much less EK> explore the nestbox. Actually he chases her into the box when he's EK> annoyed with her. Fortunately they've never hurt each other. My 'pair' sit on the same perch. He feeds her at the box hole when she sits on eggs. He calls (vocal coos) to her when she is in the box apparently to get her to join (?) him on the perch. He does not bite nor force himself on her that I've observed. EK> And I have numerous cockatiels who just won't mate with anyone. EK> Period. EK> EK> On the flip side of the coin, I have quite a few "drunken sailor" EK> types..... Any drunken (males) AG's? === * Freddie 1.2.5 * --- DB B2300sl/002493 * Origin: Wolverine (1:239/1004) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: CEZ00004 Date: 10/28/95 From: TOM WEISS Time: 11:42am \/To: CHERANE TRAJERE (Read 4 times) Subj: Breeding question pairing On 10-2395, CHERANE TRAJERE wrote to TOM WEISS: CT> I have a pair of six years old Congo Greys since they were three CT> days of age. Both are my pets. (were) CT> CT> THey are female and male (by chance) so thus they have been together CT> since they were months of age. THey are devoted to one another, CT> plus great talkers, singers. I cannot hold, play or touch either of CT> them now for they truely are bonded to one another. But, Nyagha CT> gives me infertile eggs all the time. I do believe it takes the CT> male to be at least seven years of age for I had Kunta scoped....he CT> is inmature...still. Yes, I've heard that ... tho Claire Conner reports that Domestic Greys may breed at an earlier age than 7. CT> December the 19, he'll be six..... My birds are mature ... for sure. === * Freddie 1.2.5 * --- DB B2300sl/002493 * Origin: Wolverine (1:239/1004) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: CEZ00005 Date: 10/28/95 From: TOM WEISS Time: 11:44am \/To: KATHY JOHNSON (Read 4 times) Subj: Breeding question pairing On 10-2595, KATHY JOHNSON wrote to TOM WEISS: KJ> I eventually sold KJ> Red, and kept Cherry & George together--they are my breeding pair of KJ> cherry-heads now. Hmmm good thoughts. The best male is not always an aggressor ... but on the other hand maybe the best one can hope for an unwilling female? KJ> But with my cockatiels, the bond seems to be stronger, and I have KJ> never been able to split up pairs and re-pair the birds with other KJ> mates. Go figure.. Another good point, repairing may be very difficult so I should give my AG pair sufficient (what ever that is) time to prove themselves. === * Freddie 1.2.5 * --- DB B2300sl/002493 * Origin: Wolverine (1:239/1004) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: CEZ00006 Date: 10/28/95 From: EILEEN BROWN Time: 10:38am \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Orange Wing Hello all:> I just had to write and let you all know that I have been reading this echo for sometime now, and i have gotten tons of good advice. now I would like to share something that happended to us... I live in the Ft. Walton Beach area of Florida..several months ago we got hit with hurricane erin..we had several days notice that erin was comming, so evacuating was not a big deal then...I took my birds and all their food, cages, toys, ect..to a friends house.they were fine..Erin didn't do much to us...I thought I had it all under control, and that I took great care of my birds..I also thought that since we had been hit with hurricane erin, we were not goona get slammed again..stupid me.. I read an artical in Bird Talk about preparing for disasters when you have to leave your house in a hurry..keeping extra food and toys for your birds..the one thing I didn't think about was water for the birds..thankgod I read that artical and put bottel of water in our storage room just in case.. Guess what..hurricane Opal decided to become a catagory 3-4 over night....I went from thinking I was spending th night in a hotel again, to being told that I would prob not have a home to come back to, and that I had to leave the area...so I grabed the birds from my friends house..their travel cages..and the emergancy supplys I had..(most of which I didn't replace from erin)..It took 8 hours to drive to tallahassee, which is usally a 2 1/2 hour drive..we didn't get a hotel untill 1 am..the birds were very stressed, not eating..not drinking..we were stressed...the next morning we got up and fed the birds..and Roger my orange winged amazon ate like crazy..everything he saw he wanted, this was very encouraging, or so I thought..not an hour after we got back on the road, I looked over at Roger and he was shaking his head up and down, with his beak wide open..I pulled off the road and grabed him, he was choking, then he started throwing up everything he ate that morning.this and he also developed very runny stool..so I hit the next exit and started looking for a vet, I ended up not finding a vet, but I gave Roger some waterdown gatorade (the low sodium kind) and he perked up..by the time we got where we were going to stay for the duration, Roger was not at all happy about anything..when we got his cage setup where he was gonna be, he slept for 6 hours, woke up, and he was fine...the only other trouble we had was finding the bird food he and my tiel eat, none of the pet stores I went to had the pellets for my tiel..when we got home, we still had a home:) I have already replenish the emergancy supplys..including a bottle of gatorade.... --- * Origin: MCM E-Mail System, Mary Esther, FL - (904) 581-3227 (1:366/44) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: CE^00000 Date: 10/29/95 From: DIANE WINER Time: 08:44pm \/To: CHUCK SUDDS (Read 4 times) Subj: BEAKERS cs> Diane cs> Somehow, I misplaced your address!! I am very sorry. Please cs> send it to cs> me again and I will see that your subscription gets cs> credited. Let me cs> know which issue you received last. cs> Somewhere in the shuffle with this bird fair and all, I must cs> have cs> forgotten to post it. Again, please accept my appoligies. cs> Chuck Sudds cs> --- cs> SLMR 2.1a I love my Macaws! cs> --- FLAME v1.1 cs> * Origin: Bird Info Network (303-423-9775) (1:104/234) No apology needed. I spoke to Monica and gave her the address the other day. If she has misplaced it let me know. June was the last issude I got. Thanks, hope this finds you all well and happy. I know how busy you must be but good luck to you and I know it will do fine. We miss seeing you on the board so get back in here now. diane --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: The Back Door BBS Richmond VA V34+ (1:264/165) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: CE^00001 Date: 10/27/95 From: DAVID EMANUEL Time: 10:08pm \/To: DAN FOLK (Read 4 times) Subj: Birds In Vets Offices Dan Folk in a Peter Murphy-esque way of wretching to Cherane Trajere said DF> Unfortunately, I've seen far too many facilities where neither of the DF> above practices are up to my standards. That's sad, my old vet(the one that casts $50 a visit to tell me very little, but is an EXCELLENT avian vet) has wonderful boarding facilities, of course they ;et you see what they look like before oyu send your little friend into the dungeons, but it's very nice. I guess I'm used to seeing a good clean area that is kept up and everyone is trained to work there. RAvER Internet ravertkk@aol.com ... New Mail not found. Start whine-pout sequence? (Y/N) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] --- FMail 0.92 * Origin: Stepping Stone BBS, Tulsa, OK (1:170/901) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: CE^00002 Date: 10/29/95 From: FRAN WARWICK Time: 08:59pm \/To: ELLEN KESSLER (Read 4 times) Subj: MY OPINION ONLY > inbreeding. EK> Okay. I certainly go along with that. Do you agree, then, that line EK> breeding and/or inbreeding should not be considered, especially if the EK> species is fairly easy to come by? Huummmmm? When I think of all the mutations out there I realize that there is a LOT of line/inbreeding going on for it is hard to get mutations without breeding back into the same family that the mutated gene came from. Let's put it this way. I can only operate my own breeding program, and it has never called for line breeding or inbreeding. I have looked long and hard to get pairs that were unrelated so the I would have a decent gene pool within my own breding program. So, I can only say that I do not consider inbreeding/line breeding...even when I had cockatiels and lovebirds. --- PPoint 1.92 * Origin: Wings Over Texas (1:382/92.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: CE^00003 Date: 10/28/95 From: GEORGE DESTAFFAN Time: 12:10pm \/To: RICHARD SZAJKOWSKI (Read 4 times) Subj: I HAVE A WEB SITE! RS> Dont woory about not knowing how to DL :) RS> hold of a good colour scanner, RS> Its a lot of fun 'surf'n ' around the internet and I'm going to learn this download soon. It sounds like fun to be able to create a WWW page. In having Internet access, I really wanted to stay away from a somewhat large monthly bill. My sister seems to think that she would be able to sell her babies easier. I more apprehensive. It sounds like it could be fun to create though. Thanks for the info, George --- Maximus 3.00 * Origin: ~\/~ (*) Paradise Isle (*) ~\/~ Syracuse, NY (1:2608/5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 225 PARROTS Ref: CF100000 Date: 10/30/95 From: FRAN WARWICK Time: 10:17am \/To: BOB BRADSHAW (Read 4 times) Subj: Hello From The Tarheel St KJ> >One more thing is there any chance i can put the Mini Macaw and KJ> Oscar KJ> >in the same cage with out worrying about them killing each other. NO! --- PPoint 1.92 * Origin: Wings Over Texas (1:382/92.5)