--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E5S00049 Date: 05/23/97 From: THE REAL TOM MARKS Time: 12:01am \/To: CHARLES HUNTER (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Ukraine / GSM-900 CH> TR>On our Pacbell system, we got 6 phones. We have an ericcson, it's prett CH> >small but I don't like it because the antenna is perm. up. Kinda gets CH> >annoying, but it has a calculator in it :) I had a STORE require a cred CH> >card because I had to put a deposit on the phone, and if I didn't keep CH> >the service for 6 months they'd charge me the full price of the phone in CH> >of the rebate price. CH> CH> Is your system cdma? My GTE system is CDMA, the pacbell is PCS. --- Renegade * Origin: LOTL/2 * 412 746 3592 * lotl2.slip.lm.com * USofA (1:129/230) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E5S00050 Date: 05/23/97 From: GEORGE ERDNER Time: 12:01am \/To: LEN MORGAN (Read 3 times) Subj: Cell Accessories LM> Hello All, LM> Recently, I was given a used Nokia 100 portable cell phone. I already av LM> bag phone. When I activated the Nokia, I priced a car power/battery harg LM> carrying case and drop in charger. Wow! No wonder these phones are iven LM> away, they charge a fortune for accessories. Does anyone have a source f LM> or used accessories at reasonable prices? My company is a little far away from you to shop at, but we sell the cigarette lighter adapter or leather case for the Nokia 101 for $19.95 each, or $29.95 for both. We don't carry a charger stand for the phone, but a simple plug-in charger is usually supplied free with the phone. A generic AC to DC transformer from Radio Shack will work, and they cost under $15. BTW, one of the phones Radio Shack used to sell under the Tandy brand name was a Nokia 100. They have all the accessories, though Radio Shack has a well-deserved reputation for being over priced. * OLX 2.1 TD * At a nude wedding everyone can see who the best man is. --- Renegade * Origin: LOTL/2 * 412 746 3592 * lotl2.slip.lm.com * USofA (1:129/230) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E5S00051 Date: 05/23/97 From: THE REAL TOM MARKS Time: 12:01am \/To: LEN MORGAN (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Cell Accessories -=> Quoting Len Morgan to All <=- LM> Recently, I was given a used Nokia 100 portable cell phone. I already LM> have a bag phone. When I activated the Nokia, I priced a car LM> power/battery charger, carrying case and drop in charger. Wow! No LM> wonder these phones are given away, they charge a fortune for LM> accessories. Does anyone have a source of new or used accessories at LM> reasonable prices? LM> Regards, Over here, you can get a new battery, case, and CLA for $39.95 I think, it comes in a VIP package. I think for the CLA and the case it's $29.95, maybe it's $49.95 with the battery, I can't remember. Don't know about the desktop charger though, what's wrong with your standard charger? I think thoe nokia 100 does come with a base charger though, my friend has one and his came with it. ... It's Ensign Pillsbury.... He's bread, Jim. ~~~ ReneWave v2.00+ --- Renegade * Origin: LOTL/2 * 412 746 3592 * lotl2.slip.lm.com * USofA (1:129/230) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E5S00052 Date: 05/23/97 From: THE REAL TOM MARKS Time: 12:01am \/To: ALEJANDRO CROVETTO (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: External Antenna for house -=> Quoting Alejandro Crovetto to All <=- AC> Hello All. AC> Anyone have experience with external antennas for a portable phone AC> [0,6 watts]. The house is 10 km from the cell, and sometimes the phone AC> didn't work properly. AC> Alejandro I need one of those too, for digital mode. My analog strenght is 4 bars of 4, but my digital is 0 of 4. ... When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~~~ ReneWave v2.00+ --- Renegade * Origin: LOTL/2 * 412 746 3592 * lotl2.slip.lm.com * USofA (1:129/230) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E5S00053 Date: 05/23/97 From: THE REAL TOM MARKS Time: 12:02am \/To: GEORGE ERDNER (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Ukraine / GSM-900 -=> Quoting George Erdner to The Real Tom Marks <=- TRTM> When I bought my phone dealer direct, they didn't have anything like tha TRTM> there was no requirements for the reduced price phone. GE> Are you sure you don't mean when you bought direct from the carrier? GE> Dealers and agents are the same thing -- third party middlemen. The GE> carriers pay them commissions to activate new phone lines, the GE> commission pay for the cost of the phone. But when you buy dealer GE> direct, the dealer doesn't have to pay an agent of dealer a GE> commission. Therefore, they can afford the risk that a few of taking a GE> loss on a few phones sold to deadbeats. I meant to say I bought my phone from a GTE Factory Store, and GTE is my service provider as well. ... Pure drivel tends to drive away ordinary drivel. ~~~ ReneWave v2.00+ --- Renegade * Origin: LOTL/2 * 412 746 3592 * lotl2.slip.lm.com * USofA (1:129/230) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E5S00054 Date: 05/23/97 From: THE REAL TOM MARKS Time: 12:02am \/To: GEORGE ERDNER (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Re^4: This echo -=> Quoting George Erdner to The Real Tom Marks <=- GE> Digital phones transmit at only 200 mWatts, portale cell phones GE> transmit at 600 mWatts. To put out more power, it takes more power, so GE> the battery runs down faster. Also, most digital phone makers use more GE> expensive Nickel Metal Hydride batteries instead of the old GE> Nickel-Cadmiums. NiMH packs more juice into a smaller space than GE> NiCad. Yeah, my phone came with a Lithium Ion battery. Those kick some serious ass in the wieght vs capactiy department. My old Motorola had a LI-Ion battery that weighed .13 lbs and it got more talk time than a NiMH that weighed .26lbs :) So all in all my phone weighed .31 lbs :) Not too bad :) Li-Ion batteries seem to have problems with standby time though, considering a fully charged Li Ion will drain in 7 days nearly all the way, even when not in use. TRTM> On digital I get 48hr standby 4hr talk time, on analog I get 15hr standb TRTM> and 2 hr talk time. GE> It because of transmit wattage. Check this out though. Nokia 2190 PCS: Page 62 - Transmitter Output Power = 1 Watt Page 55 - Battery Length w 1500mah NiMH 300min talk, 68hrs standby w 550 mAh NiMH 110min talk, 25hrs standby CMD-500 (Sony CDMA) 1200 Mah 300min talk, 48 hrs standby (digital) 120min talk, 15 hrs standyb (analog) But that is with a 200mW output versus the 1watt output of the PCS. What gives on that length of talk time and standby? GE> Yes, it does. But it works. Everywhere. It's old, proven, mature, GE> robust technology. Digital offers great promise. But it also offers GE> great confusion. Right now, the TDMA vs. CDMA battle looks a lot like GE> the Beta versus VHS wars of the early days of VCR's. Even though the GE> carrier I'm an agent for is in the CDMA camp, that doesn't mean I'll GE> bet the farm that they'll win. VHS beat Beta, even though Beta was much GE> better. TDMA could end up becoming the dominant standard. So true. They still sell SBETA VCR's, I think they have pciture quaitliy and sound quality on par with SVHS. VHS always sucked, but I'm pretty sure CDMA should prevail, considering how much better it is. The TDMA system in my bay area already overflowed and had to stop allowing free nikghts and weekends. ... You tell 'em Dentist, You've got the pull. ~~~ ReneWave v2.00+ --- Renegade * Origin: LOTL/2 * 412 746 3592 * lotl2.slip.lm.com * USofA (1:129/230) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E5S00055 Date: 05/17/97 From: BRIAN LINGARD Time: 12:51am \/To: TOM COLE (Read 3 times) Subj: talk and drive 17 may 1997 Ottawa Canada Well I contend it is more dangerous to use a phone than a radio mike. The mike does not have to be held to your ear to work. The phone does. ... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done. --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Vision Information Systems (1:163/266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E5S00056 Date: 05/17/97 From: BRIAN LINGARD Time: 12:58am \/To: CHRIS FARRAR (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: PUC for Cellular 17 may 1997 Ottawa Canada The Windsor/Detroit roam free zones were established due to a steady barage of adjustment requests from customers of the various carriers getting roaming charges while on their own side of the river. There may soon be such a zone with Rochester Cellular Mobile which has a great signal into Port Hope Ontaio. And I wasn't even near lake Ontario when I picked up the signals from some cellular carrier in NY state around Brockville Ontario. I called the firm's customer service and advised they were loud and clear in Ontario and could cut back on the plower of their antennas pounting out at the lake. Actually I can hit the Toronto cell site for a while due to a bend in the lake then go back to long distance then am right in the Toronto area. ... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done. --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Vision Information Systems (1:163/266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E5S00057 Date: 05/22/97 From: AL FEYEN Time: 03:09pm \/To: WILLIAM HARGRAVE (Read 3 times) Subj: talk and drive -=> Quoting William Hargrave to Paul Young <=- Hi, I just have to jump in here, hope no one minds. WH> Paul Young wrote to Brian Lingard in cellular: BL-> it just is not safe to drive in heavy rush hour traffic or for BL-> that matter to drive period with one hand on the wheel and a cell BL-> phone at your ear. PY> are you saying that you drive at all times with both hands on the PY> wheel and dont talk to others in the car ????/ PY> because thats the same ? I think it is the same. Some people have a tendency to look at the people they are talking to in person. That could be more dangerous then talking on a phone in your hand. WH> No it isn't. When you're talking to other people, you're not holding a WH> lump of plastic in your hand. What if you suddenly needed both hands on WH> the wheel? You drop it! What do you drive, a truck? I can drive my car through most situations with one hand. WH> Apart WH> from the fact it is illegal to drive in some countries while talking WH> on the phone. The problem is that some people can't handle their car with one hand, so they want to prohibit everyone else from doing it. If you can't handle it, keep your cell phone in the glove box, and park your car before making a call. Most everyone I know can drive, and use a cell phone. Sorry, but it makes me angry when people what to impose limits on other people. Blessed Be +-----------+ Send all E-mail to: | EagleStar | +-----------+ eaglestar@compuserve.com ... And on the seventh day, God said: ENGAGE! ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.21 [NR] --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 10 * Origin: CorpSoft BBS - (815)886-9388 (1:115/886) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E5S00058 Date: 05/23/97 From: LEN MORGAN Time: 07:13am \/To: GEORGE ERDNER (Read 3 times) Subj: Cell Accessories Hello George, Friday May 23 1997 00:01, George Erdner wrote to Len Morgan: GE> My company is a little far away from you to shop at, but we sell GE> the cigarette lighter adapter or leather case for the Nokia 101 GE> for $19.95 each, or $29.95 for both. We don't carry a charger GE> stand for the phone, but a simple plug-in charger is usually GE> supplied free with the phone. A generic AC to DC transformer from GE> Radio Shack will work, and they cost under $15. I have the wall charger, just thought a desk charger is a quick charge, where as the wall charger takes a long time to charge a dead battery. As for your prices, these seem quite fair, since I'm looking at about $60 for case and car charger. GE> BTW, one of the phones Radio Shack used to sell under the Tandy GE> brand name was a Nokia 100. They have all the accessories, though GE> Radio Shack has a well-deserved reputation for being over priced. I found their prices no better than anyone else. Maybe if I try hard enough, I'll find someone who has used and no phone any longer. :-) Regards, Len A thought for today: ...Turn your 486 into a gameboy, type OS2 at the C:\ prompt. InterNet: len.morgan@730.gigo.com Node 1 1:203/730 HST/DS/FAX 33.6 - Node 2 1:203/731 HST/DS 14.4 --- GoldED/386 3.00.Alpha5+730LM7 * Origin: QST Sacramento's Premier Ham BBS V.ALL 916-920-1288 (1:203/730)