--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E2T00017 Date: 02/17/97 From: REINHART RENTSCH Time: 07:44am \/To: ALLE (Read 5 times) Subj: monthly fee Hello All, 17.02.97 I am currently using the "Advantage 30 Digital PCS" plan of AT&T. I am paying 24.99 a month with 30 local minutes free. As AT&T has different pricing in each region and I am roaming most of the time anyway I am looking for a region with a lower monthly fee. Who saw lower monthly pricing on the Digital AT&T cellular system? Reinhart Internet: aktien@aol.com --- CrossPoint v3.1 * Origin: (2:240/5068.29) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E2T00018 Date: 02/18/97 From: ROBERT WHITE Time: 01:23am \/To: BRIAN LINGARD (Read 6 times) Subj: Re: Cellular Listening -=> Quoting Brian Lingard to Russ Trahan <=- BL> There are a couple of laws governing privacy of radio BL> communications in the U.S. BL> BL> The radio communications act of 1934 says you can listen to just BL> about anything but cannot use the information for profit unless There is also a clause pertainig to not only the misuse of information for profit but also for personal gain in any way! BL> it is addressed to all stations and you cannot gossip about what BL> the police swat team is doing down at the bank job. BL> BL> Then there is the e.c.p.a. which they managed to get Cellular BL> covered under and it says in effect that cellular phones are like BL> a regular phone and you cannot listen in without a court ordered BL> wiretap. BL> BL> So you can listen to anything you want in the U.S. but not BL> Cellular telephones! BL> BL> Oh as far as listening to say police calls, distress messages are BL> by definition addressed to all stations. But distress traffic is BL> when they say mayday. Normally cops use 10-33 which is not BL> within the definition of distress traffic. BL> BL> So you can get on KCBS or WABC and announce to the world a ship BL> is in distress if it used the magic word mayday, but not that a BL> cop needs help at the bank if he said 10-33. BL> BL> If he meant mayday he would say it. Regards, Rob. ... * <- Tribble _ <- Tribble vs. Godzilla --- FMailX32 1.22 * Origin: FrostByte - Sydney - Australia - 3:712/320.7 (3:712/320.7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E2U00000 Date: 02/19/97 From: CARLOS HERMIDA Time: 05:53pm \/To: JONATHAN HUNTER (Read 4 times) Subj: Software for Nokia 2110 * Crossposted in CELLULAR * Crossposted in R34.TEL-MOVILES Hello, In a msg of , Jonathan Hunter writes to Carlos Hermida: JH> How can I find out? Some undocumented menu option?? Try this 'undocumented' code: *#170602112302# More codes for Nokia: ---8<---[http://yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au/~rwi/Nokia-FAQ-4.html----- Codes Codes Codes 4. Codes Codes Codes Contents of this section 4.1 How do I find out what software I have? For all the following information you need to have your phone switched on, enter your PIN if needed and your keyguard de-activated. If you have an Original 2110 not a 2110i/2110e (See section 3.2 if your not sure which you have) Enter : *#9999# If you have a 2110i or 2110e Enter : *#170602112302# If neither of these work you might have version 5.48 or greater as for this version the code to get the software version has changed (again). It is now Enter : *#682371158412125# Press (C) when you are finished. 4.2 What does the software version displayed mean? The first line states the software version number. Eg. V 5.11 The second line is the date of the software version Eg. 27-09-95 The third line is the type of phone the software is for Eg NHE-4 4.3 What does NHE-1XN/NHE-4 mean? As far as I can tell : NHE-1XN Is for the original 2110 and NHE-4 Is for the 2110i/2110e and NHK-1XA Is for the 2140/Nokia Orange/ E-plus in Germany 4.4 How can I find out my IMEI? Firstly I better start by telling you what an IMEI is. It's the Electronic Serial Number used in Digital Phones. IMEI standards for "International Mobile Equipment Identity". It's the Digital eqivelent to the ESN (Electronic Serial Number) for analog phones. So the stories you have heard about getting a new SIM for a digital phone and then it becomes basically a new phone is not quite true. It is up to the network provider to use the IMEI's. Some do, some don't. It is in the GSM specifications that you "should" be able to find out the IMEI on any GSM phone by doing : Enter : *#06# Press (C) when you are finished. This will display the IMEI. When I say should work, I know that it will work on Nokia's, Ericssons. I also know that it will NOT work on Motorola Flares. If you have a phone (Except a Nokia), try this code and e-mail what happeneds. 4.5 How can I find out when my phone was manufactured? To find out when your Nokia 2110e/2110i was manufactured, This will NOT work on the original 2110. I don't know of any eqivalent code for it. Enter : *#3283# (3283 = DATE) To understand the four digits the phone returns you first have to look at the last 2 digits. That is the year the phone was manufactured. 1995 "95" phones. The Manufacture date was in the format of MMYY MM = Month Number Eg 06 for June YY = Short Year Eg 95 for 1995 1996 "96" phones. The Manufacture date was in the format of WWYY WW = The week of the year number YY = Short Year Eg 96 for 1996 Therefor 1096 would mean the 10th week of 1996, someday between March 3 and 9 inclusive. 4.6 Some 2110 Hidden Shortcuts! Enter : * then Memory then Find or * then the down arrow Result : You see your received calls. Same As menu options (01 2) Enter : + then Memory then Find or + then the down arrow Result : You see your missed calls. Same as menu option (01 3) Pressing Menu then Green Phonebutton allows you to transmitt DTMF codes. Use # instead of the "OK" key when you enter your pin code. Next Chapter, Previous Chapter Table of contents of this chapter, General table of contents Top of the document, Beginning of this Chapter ---8<------- Regards, Carlos. chr@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~chr --- FE/2+ 1.45b.b6 + ProBoard 2.15+ * Origin: Rias Baixas BBS / +34-86-863434 / PO Spain / 33k6 24h (2:348/603) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E2U00001 Date: 02/23/97 From: EOGHAN ARNOLD Time: 12:51am \/To: JOHN SUMMERS (Read 4 times) Subj: Moderators Statement -=> Quoting John Summers to All <=- JS> With the posting of this message, all discussion about whether or not JS> listening to cellular calls is illegal is off topic. I most Strongly agree and am glad ya finaly stepped in. JS> The constant bantering back and forth is detracting from the purpose JS> of this ECHO. Gee's I was About to leave the area until i saw this message thank you Mr. Moderator JS> It is illegal and nothing said here will change that. ... Reality-ometer: [\........] Hmmph! Thought so... --- Fmail 1.22a+/RA 2.50+ * Origin: Frontline BBS - Give yourself over to absolute pleasure 3:632/536) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E2U00002 Date: 02/24/97 From: GEORGE ERDNER Time: 12:04am \/To: REINHART RENTSCH (Read 4 times) Subj: monthly fee RR> Hello All, 17.02.97 RR> I am currently using the "Advantage 30 Digital PCS" plan of AT&T. RR> I am paying 24.99 a month with 30 local minutes free. RR> As AT&T has different pricing in each region and I am roaming most of RR> the time anyway I am looking for a region with a lower monthly fee. RR> Who saw lower monthly pricing on the Digital AT&T cellular system? If you are primarily roaming, your AT&T digital phone is probably working in analog mode most of the time anyway, so there's probably no advantage to using their hybrid digital/analog phone anyway. You didn't say where you do most of your romaing, but if it's in the Northeast, I'd recommend getting a Bell Atlantic NYNEX Mobile plan. If your company participates in a corporate plan, you can get basic access for only $10.95 per month, with local airtime at .36 and .16 for peak and off peak. Roaming in most of the Northeast, from DC to Maine to Erie to Ashland, KY (and parts of the Carolina) is only .59 cents, and 99 cents everywhere else. That's a pretty good rate. You could also go with Sprint's new PCS, where roaming is only .60 cents across the country, but service is only available in a few places. * OLX 2.1 TD * Oh bother, said Pooh, as he took his 9MM and shot him. --- RG0511/CDRMAIL 1.06b * Origin: LOTL/2 * 412 746 3592 * lotl2.slip.lm.com * USofA (1:129/230) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E2U00003 Date: 02/19/97 From: RICHARD TOWN Time: 01:41pm \/To: RICHARD JAMES (Read 4 times) Subj: FAKE TREES BLOT OUT PHONE MAST BLOTS -=> Quoting Richard James to All <=- RJ> It was reported to night, that Britains mobile phone firms are bowing RJ> to environmentalists, and disguising unsightly radio masts as trees. RJ> Orange has reportedly erected its first steel and epoxy-resin "tree" RJ> in cockermouth in the Lake District.. So why don't they put their aerials up trees in the first place? rgdZ :) Richard --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: Another message via PackLink +44(0)1812972486 (2:254/235) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E2U00004 Date: 02/19/97 From: RICHARD TOWN Time: 01:41pm \/To: JOHN SUMMERS (Read 4 times) Subj: Moderators Statement -=> Quoting John Summers to All <=- JS> With the posting of this message, all discussion about whether or not JS> listening to cellular calls is illegal is off topic. JS> No more discussion!!!! JS> John Summers JS> Moderator - CELLULAR JS> http://www.ultravision.net Is this an international echo, John? rgdZ Richard --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: Another message via PackLink +44(0)1812972486 (2:254/235) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E2U00005 Date: 02/19/97 From: RICHARD TOWN Time: 01:41pm \/To: JOHN QUAIN (Read 4 times) Subj: new police bill -=> Quoting John Quain to All <=- JQ> From what I hear about this new (police) bill, it will not require a JQ> warrant to (for instance) bug anybody's phone in 'certain JQ> circumstances', and that generally the warrant could be obtained JQ> retroactively (ie after the event) JQ> I guess this also covers the monitoring of cellular phones. This has been going on for _years_, including bugging for commercial purposes. Meantime, in the US, PGP had been declared a munition, in an attempt to stop people enjoying privacy. JQ> If you read editorials discussing this coming from other countries, JQ> most notably the US, they cannot understand how come there is no JQ> protest about this, as most modern democracies find this kind of JQ> unchecked overweening power distasteful. It is distasteful, Orwellian, and frightening. There's no protest about this because forums are being censored of debate. Like censoring the internet (coz of the alt.sex.* forums being used as a cover), 'phone tapping by the State is being legitimatised under the cover of "only checking for criminal activity". Whilst trying to ban anyone else from owning or using a scanner. Not that those would help with GSM anyway Loads of PGP stuff here at origin, or FReq FILES for the list rgdZ Richard ... we're the State, and we're frightened of what you might say --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: Another message via PackLink +44(0)1812972486 (2:254/235) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E2U00006 Date: 02/20/97 From: WAYNE MORRELL Time: 09:10am \/To: RICK MCCULLERS (Read 4 times) Subj: are you employed with INRCI Hello RICK. 15 Feb 97 13:31, RICK MCCULLERS wrote to Steve Rice: RM> please reply Rick I can only suggest that you send it to NETMAIL !!!! Regards, Wayne ... General Failure reading drive A: Please remove your fist. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Last Outpost, Brighton, Sussex, UK (2:441/600.349) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 223 CELLULAR Ref: E2U00007 Date: 02/22/97 From: RICHARD JAMES Time: 11:42am \/To: RICHARD TOWN (Read 4 times) Subj: FAKE TREES BLOT OUT PHONE MAST BLOTS Hello Richard! 19 Feb 97 13:41, Richard Town wrote to Richard James: RT> So why don't they put their aerials up trees in the first place? I have no ideas... Just read this on the teletext news service.... Richard ... Alimony: The ransom that the happy pay to the devil. --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: CELLULAR_UK is available now - fix in now !!!!!!!!!!!! (2:441/600)