--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3300029Date: 03/02/98 From: ZACH SPIER Time: 07:10pm \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. MP> Now, where did you find the statistic that 40,000 gallons of Prozac are MP> being prescribed? Surprise me, and make it a verifiable source. Harper's Index. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: (1:105/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3400000Date: 02/28/98 From: BOB MOYLAN Time: 09:06pm \/To: CAROL SHENKENBERGER (Read 0 times) Subj: Ritalin Carol Shenkenberger (On 28 Feb 98) said this..? to Thomas Kish TK> I hope this isn't another one of those, don't use ritalin, use this na TK> supplement. It only costs $75.00 a month, but if you become a distrib TK> you will get a discount. CS> Possibly but we dont know for sure. It is Frank Swarbrick who is the distributor for some unnamed, super pick-nose goo ... He who is not prepared today will be less so tomorrow --- PPoint 2.03 * Origin: What's The Point? Virginia Beach, VA USA (1:275/100.8) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3400001Date: 03/01/98 From: BOB MOYLAN Time: 07:49pm \/To: KALERA ASHLEY (Read 0 times) Subj: Help! Ideas Needed. Kalera Ashley (On 28 Feb 98) said this..? to Zach Spier KA> HMOs are unwilling to pay for the referrals needed for their customers KA> to get competent care, and the pressure is on GPs to mill patients That is a very broad generalization. If that has been your experience with your HMO it would be my first suggestion to switch to another. KA> through as fast as possible; in a lot of cases, that amounts to them KA> writing a scrip and saying "let's try this and see if it works". KA> I've had too many experiences in recent years with suggesting the KA> possibility of an illness to a doctor, only to have them write me a KA> prescription without doing ANY diagnostic work. The patient bears a considerable level of responsibility for their own care. If anyone blindly accepts what a doctor says merely because they have MD after their names then they probably deserve the treatment they receive. KA> Scary. Yes it is for both your reasons and mine. ... Consult with a real expert - Call your mother --- PPoint 2.03 * Origin: What's The Point? Virginia Beach, VA USA (1:275/100.8) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3400002Date: 03/03/98 From: ALAN RACKMILL Time: 09:20am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 0 times) Subj: Help! Ideas Needed. MARK PROBERT wrote in a message to JANE KELLEY: MP> JANE KELLEY was thinking about Help! Ideas Needed. and keyed MP> into cyberspace: MP> rs to really become effective: JK>VOTE DOWN ALL FUNDS FOR SCHOOLS! And then they will actually hold a JK>session for the general public to tell them why they aren't passing! MP> That is the absolutely dumbest thing you ever said. Especially since voting down the budget won't do anything. When the school budget is voted down, the people in charge of it will simply cut a couple of bucks off of it and then implement the "revised" budget. It is perfectly legal, and I have seen it happen many times. Alan Team OS/2, Fidonet 1:107/101, ibmNET 40:4371/101, OS2NET 80:135/15 internet: alanrackmill@mindspring.com --- timEd/2 1.01 * Origin: The Maven's Roost * MAX/2 * WARP * v.34 1-908-821-4533 1:107/101) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3400003Date: 03/03/98 From: ZACH SPIER Time: 06:42am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. MP> And, how many psychs do your know? Oh, three or four. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: (1:105/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3400004Date: 03/03/98 From: ZACH SPIER Time: 06:42am \/To: BOB MOYLAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. BM> The patient bears a considerable level of responsibility for their BM> own care. If anyone blindly accepts what a doctor says merely BM> because they have MD after their names then they probably deserve the BM> treatment they receive. Do children deserve that kind of treatment if their parent accepts what the doctor says...? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: (1:105/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3400005Date: 03/03/98 From: KALERA ASHLEY Time: 10:09am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. MP> KA>What disturbs me most is how many GPs are willing to prescribe these MP> KA>medications with little or no background in diagnosis and treatment MP> KA>of the conditions for which they are appropriate. MP> MP> How do you know that there are so **many** GPs who do this? Insurance company policy. After observing it a couple of times, I asked my doctor. Aetna, among other insurance carriers, discourages GPs from doing referrals and actually offers kickbacks for NOT doing referrals, so many doctors are in the uncomfortable position of being unofficially pressured to prescribe medications they aren't really qualified to prescribe. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: (1:105/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3D00000Date: 03/03/98 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 06:08am \/To: KALERA ASHLEY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. KALERA ASHLEY was thinking about Re: Help! Ideas Needed. and keyed into cyberspace: KA>Hi Mark! Fancy seeing you here. Fancy is hardly the word! KA>Dunno if you remember me from ASAD, I haven't had inet for a while so KA>I haven't been around. Stratton! Marriage! Several of the ladies of ASAD have followed in your footsteps. Nancy G and Nessa both boast new last names. The guys just keep rolling along. BTW, seems that Fr*ager has finally left. We decloaked him a year ago, and a multi-newsgroup assault finally seems to have effect. Maybe he got married. The Few. The Proud. The Chosen. markprobe@aol.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3D00001Date: 03/03/98 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 09:43pm \/To: ZACH SPIER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. ZACH SPIER was thinking about Re: Help! Ideas Needed. and keyed into cyberspace: ZS>MP> Now, where did you find the statistic that 40,000 gallons of ZS>MP> Prozac are being prescribed? Surprise me, and make it a ZS>MP> verifiable source. ZS>Harper's Index. Well, that is a "source". But, it is NOT a **verifiable** source. It is the posting of people (and the person who posted it is not identified) who want to add their "statistic". Did you know that approximately 96.00304030202% of all statistics are made up? And, methinks you exaggerated a bit. The stat in December 1007 was only 27,000 gallons or so. Of course, no pharmaceutical manufacturer uses gallons as a measure. The Few. The Proud. The Chosen. markprobe@aol.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3D00002Date: 03/04/98 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 01:27pm \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 0 times) Subj: Help! Ideas Needed. MP>JK>VOTE DOWN ALL FUNDS FOR SCHOOLS! And then they will actually hold a MP>JK>session for the general public to tell them why they aren't passing! MP>That is the absolutely dumbest thing you ever said. Really? Worked just fine around here. The third time that the levy failed, the schools finally held a public session to find out what folks were angry about. Unfortunatley, many of those who voted against the measures, or did not vote, also did not show up at the session. --- SLMR 2.1a All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255)