--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3300009Date: 02/27/98 From: THOMAS KISH Time: 05:41am \/To: CAROL SHENKENBERGER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Ritalin -> *** Quoting Amiga Miss from a message to All *** -> -> AM> Whoever is on Ritalin, GET THEM OFF! My daughter was on it when she wa -> AM> 7-9 yrs old and now she is 33 and she has had migrains for as long as -> AM> she can remember and it is due to her taking Ritalin. If I knew then w -> AM> I know now I would have looked for alternatives. There are other ways. -> AM> Find them soon./s -> -> Dear 'Amiga Miss'. If you wish me to believe you, at least have the -> couresty of using a real name here with your warning. -> xxcarol I hope this isn't another one of those, don't use ritalin, use this natural supplement. It only costs $75.00 a month, but if you become a distributor, you will get a discount. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: The Inner Light BBS (313)285-0217 (1:2410/213.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3300010Date: 02/28/98 From: LOGAN RICH Time: 12:20pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. -=> Quoting Jane Kelley to Logan Rich <=-02-22-98 08:54 JK> My understanding is that very bright young folks can get an entry JK> level job in Microsoft or some other computer firm these days and JK> earn millions. JK> Much better than trying to steal that amount. JK> And much more accepted by the community at large. Agreed! JK> Since we now have a lack of home boys and girls for the JK> technical jobs that are being filled by young people from JK> other civilized nations who have much better schools than JK> we do, I suggest that we revamp our prison system as soon JK> as we can, placing the intractable hard core prisoner who JK> is a psychopath in one type of facility, and the kid who JK> has been busted over drugs in another type. JK> AND THAT WE HIRE CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY COUNSELORS TO WORK WITH THE JK> ADDICTS!!! JK> Then we might see an end to the pressure to build more and more JK> prisons which should not be needed at all. these are all GREAT ideas! JK> Oh yes, stop drugging the school kids for administrative convenience. this quote should written backwards on the foreheads of administrators :) ... Use an accordian...go to Prison! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Red Shift BBS, Home of Mamoosoft! ... (770) 979-9467 (1:133/8003) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3300011Date: 02/28/98 From: ZACH SPIER Time: 09:06am \/To: JOHN PUMMILL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. JP> Which means going to a competent board licensed psych and following the pr JP> procedures. Anyone who goes to a GP for a medication of this caliber needs JP> be locked up for child abuse. you'd be surprised at how common this is. for example, i don't think psychaiatrists are perscribing all the forty thousand gallons of liquid mint-flavored prozac each year. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: (1:105/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3300012Date: 02/27/98 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 05:59pm \/To: ZACH SPIER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. ZACH SPIER was thinking about Re: Help! Ideas Needed. and keyed into cyberspace: ZS>ZS> I don't think most people in general medicine should be ZS>ZS> giving people ZS>ZS> psychotropic drugs. ZS>JP> Exactly. There is much testing to be done before a diagnosis ZS>JP> rendered and medication dispensed. ZS>Mostr psycotropic drugs, at least the popular ones (prozac and nother ZS>SSRI's, ritalin, etc...) are perscribed by general practioners. Prozac, Ritalin, SSRI's, MOA inhibitors are not psychoactive drugs. Please educate yourself. The Few. The Proud. The Chosen. markprobe@aol.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3300013Date: 02/27/98 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 06:00pm \/To: ZACH SPIER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. ZACH SPIER was thinking about Re: Help! Ideas Needed. and keyed into cyberspace: ZS>ZS> I've hard that quite often the proscess goes something like this: ZS>JS> Teacher ZS>JS> Have you seen this? Just because you hear something often ZS>JS> doesn't mean it true, merely that it gets repeated because it ZS>JS> sounds good. ZS>All the psychaiatrists I know tell me that's pretty much how it ZS>usually goes. How many do you know? Did any of the tell you it is spelled P S Y C H I A T R I S T ??????? The Few. The Proud. The Chosen. markprobe@aol.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3300014Date: 02/28/98 From: KALERA ASHLEY Time: 07:06pm \/To: JOHN PUMMILL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. ZS> Mostr psycotropic drugs, at least the popular ones (prozac ZS> and nother SSRI's, ZS> ritalin, etc...) are perscribed by general practioners. JP> JP> JP> I did not say they were not. I said: JP> ZS> JP> Exactly. There is much testing to be done before a diagnosis endered ZS> and ZS> JP> medication dispensed. JP> JP> Which means going to a competent board licensed psych and following the pr JP> procedures. Anyone who goes to a GP for a medication of this caliber needs JP> be locked up for child abuse. What disturbs me most is how many GPs are willing to prescribe these medications with little or no background in diagnosis and treatment of the conditions for which they are appropriate. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: (1:105/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3300015Date: 02/28/98 From: KALERA ASHLEY Time: 07:07pm \/To: ZACH SPIER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. JP> Which means going to a competent board licensed psych and following the pr JP> procedures. Anyone who goes to a GP for a medication of this caliber needs JP> be locked up for child abuse. ZS> ZS> you'd be surprised at how common this is. ZS> ZS> for example, i don't think psychaiatrists are perscribing all the forty ZS> thousand gallons of liquid mint-flavored prozac each year. HMOs are unwilling to pay for the referrals needed for their customers to get competent care, and the pressure is on GPs to mill patients through as fast s possible; in a lot of cases, that amounts to them writing a scrip and saying "let's try this and see if it works". I've had too many experiences in recent years with suggesting the possibility of an illness to a doctor, only to have them write me a prescription without doing ANY diagnostic work. Scary. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: (1:105/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3300016Date: 03/01/98 From: ZACH SPIER Time: 07:09am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Help! Ideas Needed. MP> How many do you know? Did any of the tell you it is spelled MP> MP> P S Y C H I A T R I S T ??????? SORRY FOR OFFENDING YOU BY SPELLING SOMETHING WRONG. YOU SEE, THE SYSOP HERE SET THINGS UP WITH A COLOR SCHEME THAT MAKES WHAT I TYPE VERY HARD TO SEE> --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: (1:105/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3300017Date: 03/01/98 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:18am \/To: LOGAN RICH (Read 0 times) Subj: Help! Ideas Needed. LR> -=> Quoting Jane Kelley to Logan Rich <=-02-22-98 08:54 My nderstanding LR> JK> is that very bright young folks can get an entry level job in LR> JK> Microsoft or some other computer firm these days and earn millions. LR> JK> Much better than trying to steal that amount. And much more accepted LR> JK> by the community at large. LR> Agreed! We are about to put charter schools in this state which is a good beginning, but doesn't go far enough. The entire public school system needs to be overhauled with the help of industry and parents. LR> JK> AND THAT WE HIRE CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY COUNSELORS TO WORK WITH THE LR> JK> ADDICTS!!! Then we might see an end to the pressure to build more LR> JK> and more prisons which should not be needed at all. LR> these are all GREAT ideas! Thanks. We have begun to work with computers and addicts in pilot projects here and there. They do good work when properly motivated. LR> JK> Oh yes, stop drugging the school kids for administrative onvenience. LR> this quote should written backwards on the foreheads of LR> administrators :) There is one thing that gets attention of the school system rather quickly; takes around three years to really become effective: VOTE DOWN ALL FUNDS FOR SCHOOLS! And then they will actually hold a session for the general public to tell them why they aren't passing! --- * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: F3300018Date: 03/01/98 From: JOHN PUMMILL Time: 12:23pm \/To: ZACH SPIER (Read 0 times) Subj: Help! Ideas Needed. ZS> JP> Which means going to a competent board licensed psych and following ZS> the pr ZS> JP> procedures. Anyone who goes to a GP for a medication of this caliber ZS> needs ZS> JP> be locked up for child abuse. ZS> you'd be surprised at how common this is. Why do you assume that I am arguing the point with you ?? I agree that it happens, I stated how STUPID it is. How irresponsable for the parents to do. ZS> for example, i don't think psychaiatrists are perscribing ZS> all the forty ZS> thousand gallons of liquid mint-flavored prozac each year. Point ?? --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Pit... Have You Dropped In Lately ?? (601)393-0512 (1:123/30)