--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: EAS00003Date: 06/22/97 From: LAURA THOMAS Time: 10:49pm \/To: JERRY SCHWARTZ (Read 1 times) Subj: add adhd Sorry to hear about your son being arrested. I'm sure it must be frustrating as a parent to not know how to help your child overcome this fixation. So far my son isnt to the point of "NEEDING" to have knives. He has just recently become fixated. I wasnt sure if it was due to a side effect of medications or something else. I havent had much luck finding a Dr. that is knowledgeable enough about ADD. My current Doctor at least is willing to learn I have given him books to read and info about conferences. He has so far been receptive so maybe there is hope. Good luck to you with your son. Laura --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - (Unregistered) * Origin: The Sand Box BBS at (813) 835-1886 Tampa,Fl. (1:377/22.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: EAS00004Date: 06/22/97 From: STEVEN GODBE Time: 02:19am \/To: LAURA THOMAS (Read 1 times) Subj: add adhd Hello LAURA! 19 Jun 97 01:03, LAURA THOMAS wrote to MARK PROBERT: LT> BTW is a LT> fixation with knives something you have seen to be common with LT> adhd kids? my son has taken to hiding all my kitchen knives in LT> the tree. It has me stumped as to why. He blames the dog for it LT> so getting a straight answer isnt easy. I was just curious. I'm LT> down to using my butter knives and locking up my kitchen knives. LT> It's not easy cooking but necessary. Laura Confession time: As a child, I routinely took steak knives from the kitchen drawer to use to cut kite strings, to place in my fishing tackle box, to try to carve initials in tree trunks, to whittle sticks, etc. I rarely remembered to take them back where they came from and usually the first notice Mom got was when she was OUT of knives. I did the same thing with dad's tools from the garage. I *never* took credit for it, allowed my older brother and younger sister to take the heat. Wanna hear a terrible truth? If you were to look on my workbench, my bet is there'd be a steak knife on it. If you were to look in my toolboxes and my tackleboxes, there's almost certainly at *least* one more kitchen paring or steak knife in each place. My wife takes cutlery to work, etc. and never brings it back. There are just the two of us, and she's gone through four 8-seat stainless place settings since we've been married. (She claims she doesn't take them and has no idea where they're going. I leave it to you to decide if the culprit's her, me, fairies, or some combination thereof.) Lets not even start talking about Tupperware. Our metal spatulas disappear in Winter for windshield frost scraping. The plastic ones migrate to the vivariums. My collanders keep getting used by her to clean aquarium/ vivarium gravel and she's always annoyed with me when I get annoyed with her because they're not clean, back in the cabinet when I want to drain some pasta or wash some produce. She has a collection of 2-quart plastic pitchers she uses in caring for our reptile pets, ALL of them, even though she needs only one pitcher. I can't tell you how many I've bought to replace the replacements for the replacements which she appropiates, and I have NO IDEA where she puts them. SHE doesn't EITHER. Does any of this sound familiar? ;-) We survive. Hope you do too. Steven --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0214 * Origin: The Round Table, BBS of Gulf Coast Mensa, 713-922-1393 (1:106/1393) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: EAS00005Date: 06/21/97 From: MARTIN SCHAAF Time: 08:34pm \/To: KETIRA (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Karate Ke> Excuse me for asking, but what's the question you ask these teachers? Ke> Now you got me curious! See my answer to "Walter Five." Regards, Martin --- QuickBBS 2.76a Ovr * Origin: The DCCG BBS * Berkeley, CA * 510-841-5621 * (1:161/40) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: EAT00000Date: 06/22/97 From: THOMAS KISH Time: 06:39am \/To: MARTIN SCHAAF (Read 1 times) Subj: Assertive transformation -> RF> did what I wanted. Until, I got married. Then my spirit broke and -> RF> I became a helpless person, until I got divorced and found myself -> RF> again. -> RF> I at that point turned my aggressive behavior into assertive -> RF> behavior and became a whole person. -> Good for you! Assertiveness is _sooo_ much more fun too. They _hate_ it -> when they can't get to you... I for some reason didn't become that way until much later in life. Once I became ohhhh about 16 or 17 I started becoming assertive. If someone asks me to do something for them, I will probably do it, but when a person tells me o this or do that, I will either ignore them or tell them to go to h**l. Tom --- PCBoard (R) v15.4/M 2 Beta * Origin: The Inner Light BBS (313)285-0217 (1:2410/213.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: EAT00001Date: 06/22/97 From: THOMAS KISH Time: 06:55am \/To: CONNIE SORENSEN (Read 1 times) Subj: My Nephew -> I really don't know what to put in this message except come right out and -> ask.. -> My nephew (4 years old) has been diagnosed ADHD. He's on Ritolin (sp?) nd -> is what my sister-in-law consideres the "PERFECT" child when he's on -> it...and when it wears off he's like "child from hell" (her words). Yes I have a 9 year old who is alot like that. She was doing very poorly in school, and was constantly bouncing off the walls at home. Once diagnosed with ADHD and put on Ritilan she became a totally different child. She became an honor role student and a better listener. Problem is that we only give her the meds for school, and to get her through her homework. Once the meds wear off she suffers from what is called ritalin rebound, which usually causes increased ADHD characteristics for a while. -> -> She asks me to watch him, but when I do I watch him in the evening time when -> his meds are just wearing off. He constantly beats on me and throws -> everything he can at me so he doesn't have to go to bed or go to the -> bathroom or brush his teeth or sit down or anything. -> -> I'm trying to figure out a way to deal with him being the way he is whien -> the meds wear off and still keep my sanity. This is quite the quandry. Have you tried time outs (4 mins for 4 years)? f not I suggest it. If there is one thing an ADHD child cannot stand it is having to stay seated for any length of time doing nothing. This is a way of disciplining without hurting. As for his temper tantrums, it is best that ou keep control of yourself, and stick to your demands. Once he finally ealizes that you won't back down he will. Also remember count to ten and take a couple of deep breaths when you feel yourself getting to the breaking point. --- PCBoard (R) v15.4/M 2 Beta * Origin: The Inner Light BBS (313)285-0217 (1:2410/213.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: EAT00002Date: 06/20/97 From: CHRIS CLAUSEN Time: 08:51pm \/To: LAURA THOMAS (Read 1 times) Subj: add adhd LT> I did something better than reporting that leader I directed people LT> toanother troop. I can understand how you feel about the ADD. Do LT> yourself a favor and get the book "Driven to Distraction" My LT> grandmother used to tell me it was because I was a poor parent until LT> Igave her that book to read. She changed tremendously in her LT> treatmentof my boys and me after reading it. If you were turned down LT> for SSIlook for an attorney who deals with SSI claims. They will LT> take a cut ofyour lump sum check but they can help you out. make LT> sure you take every LT> report from doctors. The more info you give ssi the better your LT> chances. Dont feel bad though they told my sister who has spina LT> Bifidaand hydrocephalus (water on the brain) that she wasnt LT> handicapped.Best of luck to you LT> Laura LT> --- PCBoard/2 15.30 LT> * Origin: The 128th Parallel Seminole,Fl 28.8k 813/397-1339 Good I am glad that guy is getting his back in spades. You know what they say about Payback. Thanks. I will go out to the bookstore at the mall and pick up a copy. That is horrible... Well what if I still can't get it.. I am having a hard time getting some stuff from the physicologist he won't release it to me or even to my doctor. So I may have to report him to the medical board. I would love to see these goverment people who have there medical degree's to second guess a physcian.... Thanks Laura. Best wishes to you too.. :) Chris * SPITFIRE v3.51 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: The Country Owl BBS *519-693-7152* (1:2401/504) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: EAT00003Date: 06/20/97 From: CHRIS CLAUSEN Time: 08:53pm \/To: LAURA THOMAS (Read 1 times) Subj: Karate LT> Best of luck to you. Do your homework and find a good school. And LT> remember it takes time it wont change overnight but you will notice a LT> gradual improvement LT> Laura LT> --- PCBoard/2 15.30 LT> * Origin: The 128th Parallel Seminole,Fl 28.8k 813/397-1339 Thanks Laura. I sure will we have lots of them here in London, Ontario, Canada. Hopefully if I get family Benefits I can afford to take some classes. I will keep you posted on my family Benefits progress... * SPITFIRE v3.51 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: The Country Owl BBS *519-693-7152* (1:2401/504) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: EAT00004Date: 06/23/97 From: GEORGE ELTING Time: 11:05am \/To: KETIRA (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Now that I've.... Hello, K>-=> George Elting said *this*? K>Is it okay to post your AOL address? :> Sure, not a problem. Its justgeo1@aol.com. K> GE> I read everyone's posts, and if I agree, or if I disagree, its K> GE> still proper to respect other peoples opinions, but you don't K> GE> need to be ashamed of you own either. K>Not just proper, but supported by the US Constitution. I may not K>agree with it, but I'll stand up for his right to make an opinion. As long as it is an opinion and not stated as fact! K>Blessings, K>T. Wirs Hugz! CMPQwk 1.42 478 If you cannot convince them, confuse them! (W. Gates ?) --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Memory Alpha - (253) 859-6200 (1:343/311) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: EAT00005Date: 06/23/97 From: GEORGE ELTING Time: 11:07am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Now that I've.... Hi! MP>GEORGE ELTING was thinking about Now that I've.... and keyed into MP>cyberspace: MP>GE>CC>I would be intrested in chatting with you if that is ok. I have MP>GE>CC>ADD and I was wondering I am having a hard time trying to get MP>GE>CC>onto disability because I am physically capiable of working yet MP>GE>CC>some days as you know probably very your mind can't concerate MP>GE>CC>and an employer wouldn't put up with it cuz he can just as MP>GE>CC>easily find someone to replace you who can do the job quicker MP>GE>CC>than us (People with ADD & ADH) Plus the discrimation that we MP>GE>CC>go through just because ours is not seen like someone who has MP>GE>CC>downsydrome. We (People with ADD & ADH) are told we are trying MP>GE>CC>to get a free ride and were faking it and stupid ingornant MP>GE>thoughts like that. MP>GE> Actually, I don't think you need to go on disability, but you do MP>GE>need to learn to overcome AD(H)D with the tools at hand. Most MP>GE>reputable psychiatrists will help you with it. And sometimes meds MP>GE>help, but learning the tricks to overcome it are most helpful. MP>Learning how to use those "tricks" is far easier with meds, and more MP>effective. Meds are good, disability as a life style is not... My son is using Rit to help him cope, I grew up without the help of meds... CMPQwk 1.42 478 Man who stands on toilet gets high on pot --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Memory Alpha - (253) 859-6200 (1:343/311) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: EAT00006Date: 06/24/97 From: LAURA THOMAS Time: 12:40am \/To: STEVEN GODBE (Read 1 times) Subj: add adhd Sounds all too familiar. However the knives arent being used to whittle. He hides them in a knot in the tree. He finally gave me an anwer. He claims that he has to protect the house in case a burglar comes. I figure it is easier to lock them up than to keep berating him about the knives. We are planning on showing him how to carve wood. Maybe if he uses a knife safely and constructively the novelty will wear off. However I dont intend to let him be alone with the knives. Better safe than sorry Laura --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - (Unregistered) * Origin: The Sand Box BBS at (813) 835-1886 Tampa,Fl. (1:377/22.0)