--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDW00023Date: 09/27/96 From: MARYANN KOCHANKO Time: 07:30pm \/To: AMBER FLOYD (Read 2 times) Subj: Temper-temper! > I have noticed a patern with Tam that seems > strange to me. Her > behavior is usually very good, but there are times > when she begins to, > more and more, slip into unacceptable behaviors. When > I finally confront her > on some aspect ("You must do this over, and do it > corectly"), she screems, and > crys, sounding more angry and panicked than anythign > else. When that dosn't > work, she eventually calms down, appologises, and is > the sweetest kid > imaginable afterwards. It's as if the whole thing > were staged to give her > some sort of catharcic reliece. Is this ADD, or just > being a kid? I think its just being a kid. My son had ADD, doesn't experience what you described above, however, my daughter definitly doesn't have it and she acts at times as you described above.:) MaryAnn > > Amber > --- > SLMR 2.1a Ambersky@macon.mindscape.com > --- DCI Pro/DCIQMail/Chauncy 0.7k > * Origin: Nordevald Software = The Home of DCI = 813/ > 961-0788 (1:377/3.0) --- FMail 1.0g * Origin: (1:267/124.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDW00024Date: 09/27/96 From: MARYANN KOCHANKO Time: 07:35pm \/To: MARTIN SCHAAF (Read 2 times) Subj: infection and neurological disorders Hi Martin, > Just to put my two cents in... > Having one neurologic condition may make you slightly > more likely to have another -- especially if you got > the one as a result of infection or other trauma that > effected your brain. Coincidently, back in the thirties what we now call ADD/ADHD was called past encelphalitic syndrome. It was thought that children who had enclphelitis, suffered brain damage and had neuroligical deficits which caused the sypmptoms of ADD/ADHD. MaryAnn --- FMail 1.0g * Origin: (1:267/124.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDW00025Date: 09/25/96 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 06:15pm \/To: CHERI COOK (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Interesting TIP! -=> Quoting Cheri Cook to Regina Finan <=- CC> .-=Regina Finan said to Cheri Cook on 09-21-96=-. CC> our doctor gave us a number to call, but all I got was an answering CC> machine, and no one called back. There use to be a downriver CHADD CC> but I heard it no longer exisist. On the internet their home page is : http:\\www.chadd.org or the long distance number is 305-587-3700. They will tell you if one exists around here or not. You may try calling the number again, as something could have happened to the message you left. That is why I hate answering machines, they are always screwing up. If you call the chadd number they will send you out some information also. I don't belong to a support group. I just post here. I can easily accept that this is the disorder and here are the options I have (I have read alot about it). The diet that so many talk about is controversal, with no real actual proof except for some of the people here who swear by it. I guess it wouldn't hurt anyone to try it, but sometimes when you try something you may think it works because you have pschologically talked yourself into it. There are too many things food wise that my kids totally love. To take that away, I believe my kids would have too many problems dealing with it. Plus with me homeschooling my children, working on computers part time, and our busy life with religion, I don't have the extra time to spend in the itchen. Now if there were absolute proof, I would have to change my mind. As a diet would definetly be better than medication. I have posted on here for a while now, so not seeing the peoples faces as I talk isn't important to me. As a matter of fact, I personally like it better. Although, once in a while, you meet someone on here you wish you could meet in person. Especially if your children and their children are so much alike. With support groups you are identifing yourself face to face. When I post about myself or my children, although I am not ashamed, I really don't want to have to face people face to face. I do have several acquaintances around who have ADD/ADHD children. But I seem to be their support person. I have always been that way. Helping other people out and not easily accepting help from others. My support person is my husband, who listens to my gripes about the kids and helps me to figure out what is best for them. I also have some relatives (few) that listen if need be. To me that is enough. As far as my own ADD, I don't do anything about it. I have learned to cope and compensate and that is it. I went through alot of pain as I was younger (being 43 now) and have always had to handle it myself (didn't know much about it when I was a child). Went through alot of pschologically problems that included a bad marriage and an attempted suicide. I came back stronger than ever. So I accept myself, my children, my life. My husband accepts them, and my moodiness. To me, life is grande even if it has pitfalls (there are plenty of those). Hang in their as things will get better and continuing to learn more will help you learn to cope and compensate for many things. Me and the rest of the folks here would be more than willing to listen to anything you would like to talk about. We are also willing to answer any questions you mite have. Good Luck!!! Regina ... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on. --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDW00026Date: 09/25/96 From: CHERI COOK Time: 07:20pm \/To: COURTNEY WOOD (Read 2 times) Subj: Support Groups .-=Courtney Wood said to Cheri Cook on 09-21-96=-. > ? ? ? ? > > My wife and I participate in a support group here in Houston, and > I > know of at least four other groups in the area. I also know such > groups > can be found "almost" everywhere. Just don't know which where the > nearest group to you might be. Not even sure which where is the where > in which you now are. > > Seriously, I can, given a little time, find more specific > information for you, if I know where you live. Of course, in the > meantime, six others lurking about may very well have already answered > the question more satisfactorily. Perhaps, like my wife, they're > married to ADDers, and not beset by procrastination. Or, unlike me, .-=End of Quote=-. Im ADD and my husband is ADHD, our children dont have a chance. we are in the downriver, MI area, I dont know of any here, our doctor's nurse said there use to be a CHADD goup but dont think its of service anymore. --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Rosie's Place BBS! (313) 941-0865; 24hrs; 2400-28800b (1:2410/520) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDW00027Date: 09/25/96 From: CHERI COOK Time: 07:23pm \/To: TYLER HARTSON (Read 2 times) Subj: Adult ADHD/ADD .-=Tyler Hartson said to Marie Weidemann on 09-21-96=-. > perhaps I should re-eval., but my exposure perhaps reflects something > more > about those who I saw in the hospital and my own prejudices about such > rather that a lack of education. I've read about it, but still am not > convinced of its existence... > tyler > > > *!* GTMail 1.001 > * Origin: NUTS AND BYTES BBS - 713-997-1324 - Houston, TX .-=End of Quote=- dont mean to but in here, but some of us dont receive all the messages you see, so please quote before you reply so those of us who are confused easily can follow along better --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Rosie's Place BBS! (313) 941-0865; 24hrs; 2400-28800b (1:2410/520) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDW00028Date: 09/26/96 From: CHERI COOK Time: 07:28pm \/To: LISA GANO (Read 2 times) Subj: Don't worry! .-=Lisa Gano said to Cheri Cook on 09-22-96=-. > -> I dont mean to cut in here, but you are talking about a subject that > -> relates heavy in my life, Are you talking about Ritalin? in our > -> house its known as "The Chill Pill" as in take a chill pill! I know > -> I feel different when I take my medication, accually I feel confused > -> and lost when it wears off, I feel so in control with it. > > No problem cutting in--that's what the message bases are for. Yes, we > were talking about Ritalin. Tracy has recently began taking medication > after not using any for many years, and she stated that others have > noticed a difference. I've noticed that even if others notice a > difference, if the person taking the medication doesn't feel any > effects, they aren't real reliable about taking it. > > *!* WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 > * Origin: The Coral Reef Home of Sapphire Software (1:239/600.0) > .-=End of Quote=-. Ive been on ritalin for almost a year, my son has been on it for almost two years. I notice a big difference in him and I. I notice more of a difference when I forget to take it. --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Rosie's Place BBS! (313) 941-0865; 24hrs; 2400-28800b (1:2410/520) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDW00029Date: 09/26/96 From: CHERI COOK Time: 07:37pm \/To: REGINA FINAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Interesting TIP! .-=Regina Finan said to Cheri Cook on 09-25-96=-. > is my husband, who listens to my gripes about the kids and helps me to > figure out what is best for them. I also have some relatives (few) > that > listen if need be. To me that is enough. As far as my own ADD, I > don't > do anything about it. I have learned to cope and compensate and that > is > it. I went through alot of pain as I was younger (being 43 now) and > have > always had to handle it myself (didn't know much about it when I was a > child). Went through alot of pschologically problems that included a > bad marriage and an attempted suicide. I came back stronger than > ever. > So I accept myself, my children, my life. My husband accepts them, > and my > moodiness. To me, life is grande even if it has pitfalls (there are > plenty > of those). Hang in their as things will get better and continuing to > learn more will help you learn to cope and compensate for many things. > Me and the rest of the folks here would be more than willing to listen > to > anything you would like to talk about. We are also willing to answer > any > questions you mite have. Good Luck!!! > > Regina .-=End of Quote=-. I have been on treatment for almost a year, I decided to talk to my doctor about it after returning to college, I was having problems with certain subject (any that didnt deal with computers) Now that Im out of school, I prefer to stay on my treatment, it makes "Life" so much easier. My son is severly hyper and if I dont have a handle on my own attention, I cant deal with my sons, I try to go to my husband, and he is a great support, but he also is ADHD but handles it without treatment. My kids had no hope, since ADD is said to be inherited. My younger son doesnt show any real signs of having ADD but he does have difficulty holding his temper when he wants his own way, having to listen to and dealing with all the problems we have with the other son, it take affect on him also. I do have a few freinds that is dealing with the same problems, I was told by a few mothers with older childen with the same type of problems that we came along way quicker than they did, I was able to take charge of the problems and didnt just sit around feeling bad cause I was "a bad mom". I had too many people tell me such things. well enough rambling. thanks for listening. --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Rosie's Place BBS! (313) 941-0865; 24hrs; 2400-28800b (1:2410/520) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDW00030Date: 09/28/96 From: JERRY SCHWARTZ Time: 11:31am \/To: BOB MOYLAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Interesting Tip! On Sep 26 17:32 96, Bob Moylan of 1:275/429.5 wrote to Jane Kelley: JK>> Met up with a couple of docs lately (past 2 months) with one patient JK>> of mine who is considered to be ADD, genetic alcoholic, possibly JK>> bipolar. JK>> He also has some other problems thought to be a result of his mother's JK>> use of alcohol before, during, and after her pregnancies. BM> That sounds like FAS to me. FAS and FAE (Fetal Alcoholic Effect) do have some symptoms which are similar to ADD: we suspected my son had FAE and were rather surprised when the diagnosis came back as ADD. Of course, when we realized that there are treatments for ADD but not FAE we were thankful. Jerry Schwartz --- MsgedSQB 3.30.01 * Origin: Write by Night (1:142/928) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDW00031Date: 09/28/96 From: TERESA COLE Time: 04:09pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 2 times) Subj: Interesting Tip! "P.E.T." scan? never heard of it. But then again, I can't stay on top of modern medical science material. I wonder if some hospital in Denver or Colorado Springs has the equipment to do this. --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: CSDB BBS Colorado Springs, CO (719)632-8180 (1:128/93) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDW00032Date: 09/29/96 From: BOB MOYLAN Time: 10:01am \/To: JERRY SCHWARTZ (Read 2 times) Subj: Interesting Tip! Jerry Schwartz On (28 Sep 96) was overheard to say to Bob Moylan BM> That sounds like FAS to me. JS> FAS and FAE (Fetal Alcoholic Effect) do have some symptoms which are JS> similar to ADD: we suspected my son had FAE and were rather surprised JS> when the diagnosis came back as ADD. Of course, when we realized that JS> there are treatments for ADD but not FAE we were thankful. I can believe that. I've worked with FAS kids with varying degrees of impairment; THAT'S a hard road. If I had my druthers I'druther my son not have ADHD but I'll take that over FAS any day. )-: Bob ... A royal Egyptian passing gas is a toot uncommon. --- PPoint 2.02 * Origin: What's The Point? Virginia Beach, VA USA (1:275/429.5)