--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DD500001Date: 09/03/96 From: JUDY GIBSON Time: 01:07pm \/To: GWENNA BOWERS (Read 2 times) Subj: Feingold Diet > Is this diet advailable in book form in stores? Or at > least is a person able to special order it. I would love > to try it on my son who is ADHD. My daughter is ADD so it > may not be for her. If it is advaialble in book form what > is the authors name. You should be able to find the book at your library. The author's name is Feingold. I forget the exact name of the book, but do an author search or ask your librarian for help. You should be able to see a difference within a couple of weeks at most if it's going to help. Then if you want a copy, you should be able to find it (or order it) at your local bookstore. Judy | AmiQWK 2.9 - FREEWARE | ... But it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them? --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Nerve Center - Source of the SPINAL_INJURY echo! (1:261/1000) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DD500002Date: 09/04/96 From: DAVID RICHARDSON Time: 12:12am \/To: STEPHEN FURNESS (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Dexamphetamine -=> Quoting Stephen Furness to All <=- SF> Is no one on Dexadrine? I've been using the drug for quite a while. SF> I've also tryed Ritilin I have found in my case Dexedrine to be SF> superiour for my concentration. Also their seems to be much SF> discussion on children with ADD. I'm 20 and my ADD has not "gone SF> away" after puberty.... My daughter is on dexadrine TTYL David --- Blue Wave v2.12 * Origin: Chillicothe Information Exchange (1:280/80) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDA00000Date: 09/03/96 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 12:22pm \/To: MARYANN KOCHANKO (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: ADD...ETC.. -=> Quoting MaryAnn Kochanko to Mary Marcario <=- > said "he's spoiled rotten", MK> My ADD son is the youngest in my family. I knew he was different, MK> couldn't figure it out, my other two never acted that way. I am a MK> registered nurse and knew that children are active, but it was more MK> than over activity. I had his hearing tested, thinking he just didn't MK> hear what I was telling him to do. That came out fine. But, when he MK> we chalked up his behaviour for an inablity to express himself. Making MK> him very frustrated. However his speech is near normal, according to MK> the tests in school. But his behaviour still is abnormal. I tried Yes, I remember these days. I even bought my son 300 dollar glasses because he had the tinest stigmatism and we thought that was the cause. Then he had too much ear wax and so we fixed that. Then we thought he was just rrespon- sible and at 4th grade even ADD children should be better than he was. Not!!! MK> impressing on my pediatrician from the time he was four that something MK> was not right. I recived the same response from him, he is just very MK> active and you need to work on your parenting skills. Relatives and MK> friends thought I spoiled this child rotten. The stares in the grocery MK> store from strangers were disapproving and you could tell what was on MK> their mind by the look on their faces. She is a bad mother and that MK> child is spoiled rotten. He started kindergarten with lots of Yes, I tried that too. But the parenting skills were things I had already implemented so it did me no good. MK> problems. Kept being called into conference. They said I had to work MK> more with him at home at learning, that he needed to do homework. MK> They didn't understand I was trying but how do you teach a child that MK> is running out of the room and can't stay in his chair to hear about MK> his ABC's. They said to be stricter. I was stricter to the point of MK> having him cry and cry, that he didn't understand. He would get up Being stricker was worst. Not only did my children cry and get frustrated the grades went down even more. MK> and his behaviour worsened. He would cry himself to sleep at night MK> saying how much he hated school and wish he were dead. Next came My child actually threw up and had stomach and headaches. MK> first grade. Half way thru, the teacher said something is wrong with MK> this child. I enocourage you to take him to the doctor for a full MK> physical. He withdraws and falls asleep in class. I believe he was MK> getting so depressed from being overwhelmed on not being able to MK> focus, that was the only way he could deal with it. Well the doctor MK> found nothing physically wrong. And at my insistance set him up for a MK> consult with a psychologist. We went thru intesive tests and after My Jonathon had these symptoms too after a while in was sever depression with the hyperactivity gone by 4th grade. Because of this they didn't want to believe he had ADD at all. We suspect an onset of Manic Depression with low intelligence with causes a cycle of ADD symptoms. We believe his ADD was mild and that it was his low intelligence and inability to nderstand right away that caused the severe depression. Since he has been out of school it is much better. I decided to homeschool so there would not be the school depression and we could see if the Manic Depressive behavior and ADD was still there. MK> two months he came to the conculsion of ADD and wanted him on a trial MK> of Ritalin. However he was a psycholgist and he couldn't perscribe it MK> the doctor would have to. Well his doctor refused, saw Jon in his MK> office and came up with his own diagnosis of saying I needed parenting MK> classes. I changed pediatricians. By now, he is in the middle of After my two children were tested it was confirmed that my parenting skills were fine. It was my childrens problem not mine per se. My second child is ADD/ODD. These children make you look bad. He's been better at other people's house now, but at home, he lets it all out. MK> second grade. His new doc perscribed the Ritalin. We saw an almost MK> immediate improvment. He went from having mainly D's and some C's in MK> school to last June where he had all A's excpet one B. His teacher I am pleased to see it work out. Just knowing what the problem is helps these children. Getting the proper medication is important too. There are still alot of doctors, teachers and people in these echo areas that feel too many kids are diagnoised with this problem. They all want to chalk it up to poor parenting, not enough spankings, or a spoiled brat for a child. If they only knew. I had 4 children. Only one of which does not have any problems per se. One diagnoised as a manic depressive, one as mild ADD/with manic depressive behavior (not quire sure yet) and learning disabilities and one ADD/ODD. Unless the behavior is so severe and life threatening I do not use spankings or severe punishment. (spanking is off topic so I won't go into it). These children can't help what they do. Of course you can't do nothing, but it does not mean you are a BAD parent. It means you and your child just need to work at coping and working it out. > and I thought "It's my fault for loving him too much", > but I quickly > realized...You can't love too much! Then, I decided Totally, Totally correct!!!!!!!!!!1 MK> On the other hand they tell you to give them more attention, its a no MK> win situation. No, you can't love to much. That kids has more love MK> and attention, than my other kids, the other two get very jealous. MK> But, they do need it. I love my kids all the same, but Jon needs a MK> lot of my time. Yes, I get that here too and I have to remind them that someone need a little more time and help. Regina ... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on. --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDA00001Date: 09/04/96 From: JERRY SCHWARTZ Time: 07:58pm \/To: TRACY WIRS (Read 2 times) Subj: Update On Aug 31 20:37 96, Tracy Wirs of 1:3615/81 wrote to Regina Finan: TW> Sorry; I got off on a tangent. Have you had Jonathon checked out for TW> manic/depressive? If not, you may want to do this for him. I read today that about 12% of boys with AD(H)D had bipolar mood disorder as well, going into a study: at the end of the study, another 12% had it. In the control group. 0% had it going in and only 2% had it by the end. It appears that there is a relatively high "goes-with" factor. Jerry Schwartz --- MsgedSQB 3.30.01 * Origin: Write by Night (1:142/928) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDA00002Date: 09/04/96 From: LISE MAIDMAN Time: 09:34pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: ADD & Relationships Hi, it's been a while since I've been on this echo. I am married with two boys, one with ADHD and one that is just ADD. Recently, I have been to a Dr. who also feels that I am ADD. I have started on Ritalin, along with a mild anti-depressant in the evenings. My biggest problem seems to be those mood swings. One thing I asked, and was able to get little information on was how ADD affects relationships, especially between spouses. Does anyone know of any good material or books on this. I've been told that it does greatly affect relationships, but not alot of material is available on it. I've also read that divorce is three times more likely in a family that has ADD or that one spouse has ADD. I have never been hyperactive, nor has my oldest boy, however, the other symptoms that we have are at time difficult to deal with, ie., depression, moody, inattentive, being a loner. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Lise Maidman --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #53 * Origin: FIDOnet-=Insomnia BBS=- Sarnia, On (519)336-9359 (1:246/7.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDA00003Date: 09/04/96 From: DUSTIN HALSTEAD Time: 05:22pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: ADHD (What else) Hello all... my name's Dustin Halstead, and I'm new to this forum. I heav to say that allready I'm glad that I joined in. I've had Adhd since be- fore I can rememeber but was only diagnosed with it upon entering 4th grade. It seems that finally that within this small scantuary that I can now xspress my innermost feelings as a result from this disorder and not be condemed. I guess I'll start off with the "Story of my life" in the usuall tradition...... Upon birth everything was as normal... until just about a week came the first of my experiances. I was to recive a shot in my foot fron a nurse... well it seems that the neddle that the nurse chose to use was far from sterile so contracted staff infection. From there I had surgery, then "glass box" contain- ment... and finally a body-harness which I wore the first month of my life. My parents were strong and endured every minute... my mother tought me within the home diligantly... and I enjoyed every minute (I knew my address and how to write my name in cursive in kindergarden). School started out well also ... until I reached 4th grade. It was then that a teacher observed that I ad "different" needs, and that hyperactivity was constant. But she didn't want to deal with this.... she had REAL students. To this day I still rememeber my own desk in the far corner beside the main door and window of the room. I still rememeber her standing me in the corner and anoucing to the students that I was the "perfect example of an illiterate child." I remember the hatred welling up within me... and the feeling that my perfect world was now unfair and tarnished with lies. My mother soon learned of all of this and proceeded to tell the princable... but still nothing changed. It seemed that the "teacher's" husband owned a large constuction busness which funded much of the schools ctivities. So the princable was not going to risk loosing THAT over one lone trouble making child. I became angry and showed it constanly. I was soon taken to therapy to find out WHAT was happening. It seemed that at first that no one knew and that the only concusion most doctors came to was that my parents were unfit. But after much trial and error it was found that ADHD was present. Later on in school life I was jumped around... placed in different schools... labeled... outcasted... and so on. Finally, upon reaching age 16, I asked my mother if I could work part time and attend a priv. school. She agreed and arangments were made. The school was perfect. It was called... Academy for Acidemic Exellence, and I loved every min. of it. Only students with problems such as ADHD and Manicdepresive... etc. were allowed to attend. Well then I graduated. Then... more problems began. It was as if I was free... there was no school... no comentment. I honestly had no idea how to handle it. I did however rent a trailor with my youngest uncle and work. Well then problems at work began and that quit... I was found directionless once again... I could pay rent... I couldn't find a job. Then I rememebered an offer from my reletives in FL to come and visit them so I when and did just that. They then said I could come and stay with them... I then came back.... gathered my belongings and returned. As usual nothing went well and I returned back here and am now living with my parents again... and starting collage soon... I'm going to theripy and trying different kinds of medication... yet none seem to do any good. I still wonder what will become of my life. Dustin Halstead ... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere! --- Tom Toss 3.18g1 * Origin: Diamonds In The Rough (502) 439-7904/9220 (1:3621/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDA00004Date: 09/05/96 From: DUSTIN HALSTEAD Time: 12:36am \/To: COURTNEY WOOD (Read 2 times) Subj: From: FISHING -=> Quoting Courtney Wood to All <=- CW> Howdy, CW> Found this, posted by someone else, in FISHING conference. This CW> is my third attempt to get this evaluation copy to create a message. CW> (Not much incentive to register the sucker.) Had some comments, but CW> they keep going away. Here's the scoop, though: CW> The Washington Times ran an article recently that I thought you folks CW> might be interested in. CW> "Eating Fish May Benefit Psyche: Tie to depression, hyperactivity seen I think that to be a myth... or that's at least my conclusion. That fish theray began when French chemist, Jean Dumas, way back in the middle of last century, found that fish was rich in phosphorus... around that same time it was noted that the brain, too, contained large amounts of phosphorus. But if you have anything to further your hypothosys than I'd love to hear it. And please forgive my spelling... I have dyslexia as well as ADHD :( OmEgA ... Opti-Free contact pills say: DO NOT USE PRODUCT IF ALERGIC TO PORK! --- Tom Toss 3.18g1 * Origin: Diamonds In The Rough (502) 439-7904/9220 (1:3621/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDA00005Date: 09/03/96 From: TIM BAER Time: 07:49pm \/To: GWENNA BOWERS (Read 2 times) Subj: Adult ADHD/ADD This is what Gwenna Bowers babbled to Tim Baer before I perverted it... -> Sorry I took so long to get back to you. I just ->needed a break ->from my BBS for a while. =( GB> I know the feeling I to take breaks so my hubby/sysop has it so any GB> messages to me are stored for 30 days or at least that is what he has GB> told me anyway. I finally got caught up yesterday and today. I'm actually answering stuff that was received this week. =) GB> We lucked out this year I called his school the week prior to school GB> starting (8/26) and spoke to the counsuler (sp) and he remembered GB> Robert from last year and he knew that he (Robert) needed the advanced GB> classes to motavate him I had requested only Math but was told that he GB> would also have to take advanced language arts so I said go ahead and GB> we will try the other class and if he had problems he would revert GB> back to regular classes as he had to have both not just one. When he GB> got home Monday I looked at his schule (sp) and he was put in ALL GB> advanced classes except PE and one other class called Resorse (sp) and GB> we are still trying to figure out what that class is. So only time GB> will tell if the advance classes help him keep in focas. My son's newest teacher has a very structured class. So far (after one day...) he is doing very well. He likes that he has a set of rules that must be followed at all times instead of the free-for-all he had last year. So, we shall see. He did learn to read a lot better over the summer. I took away all his shoot-em-up games on the kid's computer and put in a lot of the ones that force you to read and solve problems--ie, Magic of Xanth, Loom, Secret of Monkey Island... So, this, too, has helped. He seems to be a little mellower after the summer, too. =) ... "Now, pay attention, dolt!" - Master Garkin ~~~ ReneWave v2.00 [NR] --- Smile :) * Origin: * The Beast's Lair * (804)498-3070 * Va Beach VA * (1:275/160) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDA00006Date: 09/03/96 From: TIM BAER Time: 07:49pm \/To: JERRY SCHWARTZ (Read 2 times) Subj: Adult ADHD... This is what Jerry Schwartz babbled to Tim Baer before I perverted it... TB> Lava lamps... I haven't seen one of those in... < Let's not thnk about how many years...>> <> Is there a place TB> that still makes them? JS> They are enjoying a renaissance, believe it or not. REALLY! Coolness! I used to LOVE watching the one my cousin had back in the, er, let's not say what year that was... <> I wonder if I got one for my son if it would be something he could watch to relax and focus on to get himself together when he gets spun up? I know *I* might still do it... (Wonder if it's an approved form of coping with ADHD>) <> =) So where can they be found? Any major, nationwide stores that you know of carry them? ... "And so castles made of sand slip into the sea . . . eventually..." ~~~ ReneWave v2.00 [NR] --- Smile :) * Origin: * The Beast's Lair * (804)498-3070 * Va Beach VA * (1:275/160) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DDA00007Date: 09/05/96 From: TYLER HARTSON Time: 10:09pm \/To: LAWRENCE DUMAS (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: UP %& DOWNS what are ups and downs? I'm a therpaist who worx with kidz and I cant say I am familiar with this term.... thanks -- tyler --- GTMail 1.001 * Origin: NUTS AND BYTES BBS - 713-997-1324 - Houston, TX (1:106/8066.0)