--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DBF00002Date: 07/10/96 From: BOB MOYLAN Time: 07:41pm \/To: JIM WALSH (Read 3 times) Subj: adhd Jim Walsh On (09 Jul 96) was overheard to say to All Much good stuff cut....but thought this last merited repeating... JW> For those who disagree with my feelings on using Ritalin, keep it JW> to yourself. I'm not here to debate it's use, but I'm here to JW> share some hope for those parents who like we were, are at the JW> end. Things DO get better, kids DO change, and yep, there is JW> LIGHT at the end of that long tunnel. Excellent Jim, thanks for sharing. I am, btw, with you, our 9 year old boy with ADHD simply can't manage any part of his life without his meds. Best Regards....Bob ... He who is not prepared today will be less so tomorrow --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: What's The Point? Virginia Beach, VA USA (1:275/429.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DBF00003Date: 07/10/96 From: BOB MOYLAN Time: 07:37pm \/To: JANE SEGAL (Read 3 times) Subj: Ritalin Jane Segal On (08 Jul 96) was overheard to say to Bob Moylan JS> Well, Bob, since you keep yelling at us to do some research and many JS> of us don't have the time to do so, I haven't been "yelling" at more than one or two who just don't seem to get it or who have some agenda of their own. JS> perhaps you could enlighten us by JS> providing some excerpts that would help us understand, better. From reading your previous posts I think that you do understand; that your child had a bad experience with a medication does not mean that all or even most do. It is grossly misleading to generalize your experience to all others. JS> I certainly wouldn't want to be spreading gossip! Well then.... ... Couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: What's The Point? Virginia Beach, VA USA (1:275/429.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DBG00000Date: 07/08/96 From: JACKIE DOEK Time: 02:30pm \/To: REGINA FINAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Diagnosis RF> the above disorders would help. I am going to have to do something fast RF> as I am begining to get afraid I will wake up dead (burned house or some- RF> thing; that may be an exaggeration, but you get the picture). Thanks. Wow!!! I am not sure about the diagnosis, but, you just described my three children, they will be going for testing soon, I believe :) Let me know what happens with yours :) Jackie --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Mystical Place - Vanessa, ON - (1:245/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DBG00001Date: 07/11/96 From: JANE SEGAL Time: 06:03pm \/To: SCOTT CURRY (Read 2 times) Subj: Hi I'm new and full of q ScottCurryAll17:3207-05-96Hi I'm new and full of qu SC>Hi all. SC>My roomates eldest son , sean, has been diagnosed as having AHAD. SC>He is under going treatment and is on redlin. His mother and I SC>make sure that he makes every apointment and that he does get his SC>meds on time. He's only six, and at times it is so frustrating SC>watching him try to do what he's supposed to at home. SC>Unforutnately, that's where several questions begin to rise thier SC>ugly heads. SC>For example, his toys. SC> He will be playing with toys and told it's time to pick up. SC> Immediately he becomes argumentative and fussy. Six or seven SC> attempts later, I start reaching the boiling SC> point and begin to yell at him. I know this wrong and I am SC> really trying to correct myself with this. How did some of you SC> parents break yourself of this. Any help would be greatly SC> appreciated Well, there are a few things I can recommend. One, you could make it a game like getting a big basket or toy box and time him and see how fast he can do it. Of course, reward him. Two, you could give him a choice, he picks them up or your pick them up putting them in a bag to take to Good Will. Expect a lot of screaming, but you might do it once and give him one more chance, but don't back down after that. Three, you could insist that he only play with his toys in his room and then if he insists on leaving his toys out, shut the door and don't open it. The later was the one I chose, David's room was a total dissater toxic waste area. Then, he turned 16 and got a girlfriend and cleaned his room and has become finatical about cleaning! :) Good luck with your mission! Jane "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." - The Reluctant Messiah, by Richard Bach Jane Segal FIDO: 1:209/276 * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY -*- SF-Quick/BW 1.00r [#44] --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#130) * Origin: The "us" Project, BBS * Wilmington DE * USR D/S 16.8k (1:150/8) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DBG00002Date: 07/11/96 From: JANE SEGAL Time: 06:03pm \/To: TRACY WIRS (Read 2 times) Subj: ADD Web forums? TRACYWIRSALL17:4407-06-96ADD Web forums? Hi Tracy! TW>I know there's a forum on the major online services for ADHD, but I TW>don't really want to pay the high prices (nor do I want to go there TW>for that; I go there to do some role-playing to blow off steam). Perhaps the Moderator here would allow you to begin a role-playing thread, here so that you and others could participate without paying the prices of the I_Net. I know that everyone is not connected, yet. Jane "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." - The Reluctant Messiah, by Richard Bach Jane Segal FIDO: 1:209/276 * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY -*- SF-Quick/BW 1.00r [#44] --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#130) * Origin: The "us" Project, BBS * Wilmington DE * USR D/S 16.8k (1:150/8) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DBG00003Date: 07/11/96 From: JANE SEGAL Time: 06:03pm \/To: ERIC BERG (Read 2 times) Subj: Meds and alcohol EricBergAll13:0407-06-96Meds and alcohol Hi Eric EB>It seems like I can't get a consistent answer to whether or not it's EB>o.k. to drink alcohol while taking Ritalin and Prozac. Taking EB>dexedrine and drinking alcohol is a definate no-no, says all the EB>literature I've read. Ask your doctor. Jane "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." - The Reluctant Messiah, by Richard Bach Jane Segal FIDO: 1:209/276 * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY -*- SF-Quick/BW 1.00r [#44] --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#130) * Origin: The "us" Project, BBS * Wilmington DE * USR D/S 16.8k (1:150/8) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DBG00004Date: 07/10/96 From: JOHN PUMMILL Time: 10:24pm \/To: STEVE KRUZICH (Read 2 times) Subj: Help! SK> I had to move due to the lousy job situation that memphis SK> had about three SK> years ago. I can dig it. SK> Jobs are good here, I doubled my wages in two years here in SK> atlanta. SK> take care, keep in touch dude, my BBS address is SK> 1:133/08.0@Fidonet I almost moved there... could not find a house avaliable around Stone Mountain by the deadline. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Pit... Have You Dropped In Lately ?? (601)393-0512 (1:123/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DBG00005Date: 07/10/96 From: THOMAS KISH Time: 06:53am \/To: JANE SEGAL (Read 2 times) Subj: Ritalin -> Hi Thomas! -> -> Thank you for correcting me. It makes sense. I appreciate your method of -> explanation! -> -> Jane No problem, it is a common misconception. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 Beta * Origin: Electronic Dreamland 313-285-0217 (1:2410/608) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DBG00006Date: 07/10/96 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 07:58pm \/To: LISA GANO (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Diagnosis -=> Quoting Lisa Gano to Regina Finan <=- -> into it. My finances are quite low at the moment especially since I -> don't have any insurance and that we think my husband has a hernia. -> So I may have to check into finances first. Thanks for your reply. LG> Regina--what state do you live in? In Michigan we have a program LG> called the Caring Program. It provides Blue Cross/Blue Shiled to LG> minors whose parents make too much money to qualify for Medicaid, but LG> don't make enough to pay for insurance. Other states may also have LG> similar programs. You may want to check with your doctor, health LG> dept., school, or social services agency to see if there is anything LG> liek that available for your kids. I have the application. The problem is my husband and I are self employed and our income goes up and down every month. It seems that we make too much to get on medicaid and just under what the caring program. You see last year we only made 18,000 but in the summer months is when we make all the money. So you end up getting kicked off in the summer--plus my husband pays his guys cash. We he gets paid they get paid right on the spot. We don't have checking accounts because of our financial burden we don't dare put our self in that position. Of course, we may look into it again. I heard social services has changed a few things, but I really hate that route. I would rather just be poor by myself. Regina --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: DBG00007Date: 07/10/96 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 08:06pm \/To: JENNIFER LEWIS (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: I'm with Ryan -=> Quoting Jennifer Lewis to Regina Finan <=- -=> Quoting Regina Finan to Jennifer Lewis <=- JL> Thanks for the Howdy! Ryan and I have been having a bit of a rough JL> time lately and I'm not sure why. He seems to be feeling (as I JL> interpret it) a need to be as "different" from who he really is as JL> possible. Is this common? I mean, he went and got an earring (it JL> looks good, but it just isn't what I see as the REAL Ryan...know what I JL> mean?), he's been driving real fast, and he's just been different. He JL> claims he doesn't know why he's acting this way and I believe him, but JL> it sure is frustrating because if he doesn't know what he's feeling, JL> how can anyone else? I'm also not sure if I'm part of the problem. JL> You see, my sister just passed away suddenly (she was 27) and I'm JL> EXTREMELY vulnerable. Anything he does or says I take personally. JL> It's really hard to see what the real problem is. Anyway, thanks for JL> writing back. JL> Jennifer It is very possible that is exactly what he is trying to do. He may feel the need to deny ADD or maybe he doesn't really like himself knowing he has this. Teenagers are a breed of their own. It could also be just trying to find himself, what he likes, what he believes in and so on. Implusitivity is an ADD symptom so he may be giving in to it more right now. Teenagers don't always know what they are feeling or why they do the things they do. I know this must be a difficult time for you also and therefore you are most probably very sensitive to everything. Just try to let your son know you are there if he needs to talk. You could also talk to him about yourself and what you are going thru. My step-son loved it when I would talk to him about some of my feelings. I guess I became more human to him. If you see a potentially dangerous behavior starting than I would seek some counseling for a while. Other than that this is probably a situation where you are just going to have to give him some space to discover and put together who he really is or what he wants to become. Take care!!! Regina --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534)