--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: D5M00015Date: 05/16/96 From: JULIE DECKER Time: 01:01pm \/To: AMBER FLOYD (Read 3 times) Subj: 6 Year Old AF>>> They love to do that, but it doesn't help with the OCD behaviors. >>> Actually playing cats cradle and several other string games became one >>> of their obsessions for awhile. => AF> So actually finding them somethign to do with their hands not only >dosn't help, it can beome a problem in and of itself? Ouch! What do you >do? Allow them their obsessions without making a big deal over them. They are all on medication that helps a bit. I will call it to their attention if it is something that is inappropriate (ie. my 5 year old kisses peoples arms and legs) and try to direct their attention to something else. Mostly we talk about the activity or thought and work together at finding alternatives. I have it too so they know I understand what it feels like. They have fun pointing out my OCD behaviors to me as well. We joke about our tics, OCD and attention problems. Home is where they can feel perfectly at ease being themselves. :)Julie ___ X QMPro 1.53 X "Is there an imaginary cure for hypochondria?" --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE,Cashmere Wa.ZyXel 2864 28.8 (509) 782-4259 1:344/91) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: D5M00016Date: 05/16/96 From: JULIE DECKER Time: 01:03pm \/To: AMBER FLOYD (Read 2 times) Subj: Tam AF>>> This is definitely true much of the time, but when it comes to >>> dentists this one has something special. Prior to finding her Aria was AF> Wow! I wish she could bottle it. Me too. Aria had another appointment today and actually looked forward to going. I don't know what she's got, but I'm SOooooo glad that we found her. :)Julie ___ X QMPro 1.53 X Sure, when ...I'll be damned! --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE,Cashmere Wa.ZyXel 2864 28.8 (509) 782-4259 1:344/91) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: D5M00017Date: 05/16/96 From: JULIE DECKER Time: 01:10pm \/To: AMBER FLOYD (Read 2 times) Subj: IEP Hell AF>>> her I was sorry for doubting her. She told me Mrs. Bishop told her she >>> was stupid and that she believed her because she couldn't learn her >>> multiplication as fast as the other kids did. People like that should >>> not Be teachers. Anyway, I'll just get worked up again. TTYL AF> Woa! She SAID that? Oh, sometimes it is hard to be a non-violent >person! It has taken a full year and Aria is only now beginning to believe she can learn multiplication. It will take a long time to rebuild what little self esteem Aria had. This damage was so great it may never be undone.(We'll certainly do our best though) I'm very non-violent, but in her case I might make an exception. :)Julie ___ X QMPro 1.53 X The proctologist called. He found her head.... --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE,Cashmere Wa.ZyXel 2864 28.8 (509) 782-4259 1:344/91) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: D5M00018Date: 05/16/96 From: JULIE DECKER Time: 01:12pm \/To: LAWRENCE DUMAS (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: In Tears LD> JD> Just thought I'd let you know that the NIH BBS has shut down as > JD> of May 1st. I have the ADHD TXT file saved to disc with many other IH > JD> files and would be happy to send it e-mail to anyone interested. I've > JD> never net-mailed before, but I'm sure my sysop would help me out if > JD> someone didn't have e-mail and was interested. It is a long file. > JD> :)Julie LD> I would very much appreciate that file and any others that you may > feel would be helpful. LD> lawrence.dumas@oln.com I e-mailed it on 5/16/96 Did it make it? :)Julie ___ X QMPro 1.53 X **Attention Span Exceeded!** Mind leaking! Mind Leaking! --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE,Cashmere Wa.ZyXel 2864 28.8 (509) 782-4259 1:344/91) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: D5P00000Date: 05/17/96 From: JAKE LANGILLE Time: 12:00am \/To: JOHN PUMMILL (Read 1 times) Subj: JP> I am ready... This quote in this echo is absurd! ^^^^^^^^^ JP> IMHO (I am ready for the fallout) bicycle helments, no JP>corporal punishment, albow and knee pads, etc take the JP>reality out of life. We grew up learning what did and did JP>not hurt, unsheltered and none of us seem to have suffered JP>from it. I want my kids to understand these things also. Woah! Seems your humble opinion outweighs the basic safety needs of your children. ^^^^^ JP>We grew up... This was your time John, as well as mine. ^^^^ I chose not to make it culture for my kids. ^^^ Good Luck? Jake. ___ * PW * ADD Kids are the Superheros of tomorrow. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: D5P00001Date: 05/17/96 From: LISE MAIDMAN Time: 10:49pm \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Rittlen Question MP> BM> side for both. I'd like to take an informal and totally MP> BM>unscientific poll of those who participate here on whether or no MP> BM> this has been a problem for their child. I have two boys on Ritalin, our oldest is 12 and has taken it for 3 years, our youngest is 10 and has taken it for 4 years. Both boys are on the large size for their age. Not overweight, but our oldest in the tallest in his class, and our youngest is one of the largest in his class as well. We have not noticed any growth slow down for either. I should also mention that they were only on it during school time. We have just put our youngest on Ritalin full time 3 months ago. --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #53 * Origin: FIDOnet-=Insomnia BBS=- Sarnia, On (519)336-9359 (1:246/7.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: D5P00002Date: 05/17/96 From: LINDA HEIR Time: 05:00pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Pycnogenol Anyone out there heard of using Pcynogenol for treating ADD? Would love to hear about its effectiveness! Thanks --- WM v3.10/92-0249 * Origin: DRAGnet/DIDnet: Quality Disability Info 612.753.1943 (1:282/1007.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: D5P00003Date: 05/15/96 From: LAWRENCE DUMAS Time: 11:31pm \/To: AUDRIE MCMASTER (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: HELP! > There is one thing my fiance said to you that I disagree with. He does > get into a repetetive state but I think that there are times > when he can control this where Johnny thinks he just shuts > down and doesn't realize what he is doing. Have you had any > experience with this kind of thing? I have not experienced this but Garry Freymeyer (spelling?) shared an interesting message with us that sounds very similar. Something about falling through a hole on a construction site. I believe that he is on a job right now that limits his time on this echo but when you see his name back on here I suggest that you describe this to him and ask for his comments. ... Keep on TRUCKING. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: D5P00004Date: 05/17/96 From: LAWRENCE DUMAS Time: 06:11pm \/To: AMBER FLOYD (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Thank YOU -=> Quoting Amber Floyd to Suzanne Stewart <=- AF> Their "Breaks" are mushy. Ritalin speeds up the brain, in ALL people AF> it takes, but it speeds up THIS part of the brain a bit more than it AF> does the other parts, and for our kids, that is what they need. More AF> power to the breaks. This is what I "feel" that Cylert does for me as well. Thank you Amber. ... Keep on TRUCKING. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 222 ATTENTION DEF. Ref: D5P00005Date: 05/17/96 From: LAWRENCE DUMAS Time: 06:17pm \/To: AMBER FLOYD (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: True Cause Of ADHD -=> Quoting Amber Floyd to Martin Schaaf <=- >> This is why you get flamed. The fact is _no_one_outgrows_ADD._ It is AF> Acording to everything else I have read, that isn't true. So far, AF> the concensus seems to be that about 1/4 of kids outgrow it at around AF> 12 years of age. I cannot dispute that but..... I wonder if, somewhere between the ages of 8 and 12, some of the children, perhaps with less severe forms of ADD, make the adaptations which make the disorder a non- issue. That is, it is still there but well managed. ... Keep on TRUCKING. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510)