--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F3W00015 Date: 03/23/98 From: MIKE HURST Time: 12:00am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: (2/3) Awareness briefing part 5 33). The Producer of the Men In Black film was Steven Spielburg . This person has made a number of E T related films like : ET and Close Encounters Of The Third Kind. I think hat the makers of the film The Men in Black were the Freemasons. Steven Spielburg is Jewish, and I think that they are using this Jewish film maker in order to make GOD mad. The Je ws are supposed to be special to GOD, and by having Steven Spielburg make their films they are saying to GOD : "look, we are getting your own people to help us make films against you, ah ah ah!" I know that in the end, GOD and GOD's people will have the l ast laugh. If you read all of this text, you will read that I have learnt hat GOD is going to make it so that the world, along with all the ETs in and just outside of our solar system will be killed off just before Jesus was born 000 years ago, and they will never be born again (cloned). 53) ALIEN IMMORTALITY In a book of channelled information from E.Ts, one of the E.Ts says that he has lived many times before. The way this is achieved is by cloning. What they could do is make recordings throughout their lives, then when they are born again and old enough, th ey could view the recordings and know about their previous life. If they have got to the stage where they can store a whole lifetimes memories in a ersonal computer, they could access their thoughts from all of their previous lives. This is being worked on by British Telecom's (a phone company) inventors at this moment in time. In Genesis, it tells at length how people have managed to live for an unbelievable amount of time. It says that when Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son called Seth. Adam carried on living for another 800 years and had more children. Adam died when he was 930 years old. His son, Seth, died when he was 912. In Genesis it says that Enosh lived for 905 years, Kenan lived for 910 years and Mahalalel lived for 895 years. I don't care how good your doctor is, he or she can not keep you going for 900 years. I think that the amount of years given in Genesis represents the total amount of years that these people were cloned by GOD (E.Ts). This is the only explanation for the years given. This process is called reincarnation. I have learnt that the ETs have themselves cloned when they are around the ge of seventy. They then look after the clone of themselves and teach the him or her things that they think are important. Then they die and their clone continues to live on, and that's how immortality is gained. 54) ALIENS AND THE POLICE The very well known abduction investigator : Bud Hopkins, has 200 letters rom American Policemen. Obviously, they either know or think that they have been abducted by E.Ts. In Britain we know of two Policemen that have a link with the UFOs. PC Alan Godfr ey was abducted in 1980 and Tony Dodd (now a UFO investigator) had a very ood sighting of a UFO whilst being a Sargent in the Police. In the USA, Patrolman Herbert Schrimer was told by E.Ts that one day he would see the universe. his suggests that one d ay certain people will travel through the stars; like the ancient Aztecs of Mexico said they would, at this time. With implants and hypnoses, it is possible for the E.Ts to control anyone who they abduct. It seems that the E.Ts are controlling either a la rge proportion of the Police, or all of it, in America and Britain and possibly other countries. If the E.Ts have implanted a large number of policemen, you can be sure that the CIA , NSA , FBI , MIBs and the Governments of the world have also. 55) PRESIDENT BUSH ON UFOs When President Bush was asked by a member of a UFO group about UFOs, he said 'You don't know the half of it.' If there was nothing to UFOs, like most people are led to believe, Why did the ex head of the CIA say this? Because there is something to UFOs, that's why! Also, it is said that George Bush is a 33rd degree Freemason see Freemasons,UFOs and God in this text for more on the Freemasons). 56) GUARDIAN GELS If you have read in this text, the section called UFOs and religion, you will have read just a small amount of proof that suggests strongly that GOD is an extra terrestrial intelligence. We read in the Bible, that GOD has Angels hat do his work, and that sometimes they look after specific people, and are called Guardian Angels. One women in America who has a strong belief in Angels (the Angels give her this belief), one night whilst in bed was told by a voice to get up and sit at the end of her bed. Outs ide there was a bad storm taking place. Just after the women had done what he voice wanted her to do, a tree fell in through the window where the women's head had been previously. It is my belief that the women was being looked after by Angels (E.Ts) 24 hours a day. The women's Guardian Angel used his/her time travelling quipment in order to stop the women from being injured by the tree. There are many cases where Angels (E.Ts) have done things like this. If you have had an alien abduction or Angel expe rience, and you are suffering from stress, continues unexplainable headaches, unexplainable pain, sudden worsening of eye sight, any sudden mental condition; like depression, above average tooth abscesses, severe acne, neck spasms or unnatural shaking of the limbs, this is probably the Angels or E.Ts doing this (the bad ones, not GOD's Angels). The reason for this action against you; is that you will probably be taking over their positions in either the Underworld or in Heaven (space), and they don't like it. The famous abductee Whitley Strieber; was nearly driven to suicide because of his experiences. Many abductees say that when they were abducted they were terrified and most abductees say that they had pain whilst being on board a UFO. All this I belie ve is unnecessary, especially the fear which I believe is generated by technology. If any of the above things have happened to you or a friend, here are a number of things you can do. You can privately speak out loud and talk to your Angel/ET , and try t o sort everything out with he/she (they are not allowed to talk back), or you can get in touch with as many abductees as possible, and tell them what you think is being done to you by the E.Ts. There is supposed to be different ET bases all over the world , so you can try telephoning abroad for help (to an abductee that is onitored by one of these bases). The more you tell different abductees about your problem, the more chance of the good E.Ts have of hearing about it.Remember that the women mentioned ab ove must have had a 24 hour a day Angel/ET team watching her, or else they would not have known about the tree falling into her bedroom window. There is a lot you can do to stop all the bad things happening to you. If you want to know what goes on in the lives of abductees, read the book : Into The Fringe by Karla Turner Ph.D (no it's not a book about hairdressing!) . She has been abducted, along with her husband and friends (unless it is a very clever Freemason/Government hoax book). Her husband was rape d by a white haired female on board a UFO (they must be ugly and desperate to do that, "How low can they go?") In the book by Karla Turner, it says that he white haired female which raped her husband; said that they were nine dimensional, this to me sugg ests they were from The Nine Civilisations. I must say that not all E.Ts/Guardian Angels are bad, even the bad E.Ts probably don't want to do bad things to the abductees, but they are on orders from the rulers of the underworld (Hell) to do so. The last s entence goes for the Freemasons also (most of the time). It is well known that the E.Ts can read abductees minds. If they can hear hat an abductee is thinking, they could certainly record their thoughts and emotions. In the millions of years of monitoring peoples thoughts, the E.Ts must have managed to record all the emotions a person has, and so it would be possible for them to play emotions into an abductees mind (through implants). If the abductee hears the emotion of fear for example, he/she will probably feel scared (I believe). I have found out that the main people the Freemasons want to get at (do as much damage to as possible) are those people of God 's that are pretty good looking, have black hair with a hint of brown, and have blue eyes. The Freemason's masters in the underw orld wanted these people to be the Jews of the nineties, and from what I can gather; they're probably not far off from having them as this. All I can say is : " This is not a wise thing to be involved in." Also, I have found out that the Freemasons actual ly own some of these people of God's (as they have been cloned from the originals). They are female and extremely attractive usually (they probably have some males as well, but I don't know for sure that they have). With extraterrestrial implants placed i n a person's ears; it is possible (with the right ET equipment) to hypnotise them to do anything, What do you think as been going on with these people? I must stress very strongly that not all Freemasons know anything about any of this, and if they did th ey would be as angry as me about it. The underworld ETs that help and control certain Freemasons (I'm led to believe); have been making GOD's people with black hair (mentioned above) fail at everything they do. It is very dangerous for the underworld ETs to do this, but they are brainwashed into doing it, and they have been led to believe that they are invincible and can't be punished or killed by GOD. It does say in the Bible that at this time there will be war in heaven, and that war is now taking place . The reason why those from the underworld want GOD's new people (to earth) to fail, is because they are the ones who are supposed to rule earth and the solar system in the new age starting after the year 2000 (these people are nothing to do with the underw orlders or the Freemasons). They thought that the creators put these people n earth; without the creators monitoring their lives, and so they thought that they would make them fail at everything, and so make the creators change heir minds about them rul ing the solar system. The result would be that those from the underworld ould continue to rule. The people from the underworld must have a zero IQ for thinking this, as they should have realised that the creators would have learnt from what happened to J esus when he was put on earth, that those who control things on earth are ery evil people, and cannot be trusted. I have found out that it was those from the underworld that managed to get Jesus put on the cross. Those from the underworld and the Freemas ons that know all about the ET situation; think that the war against GOD is just a war of information. They think that if they kill a couple of GOD's people, GOD will just say that they are not happy with them etc.. This is the attitude I have heard perso nally from one of the Freemason's people deeply involved in all of the bad things being done to GOD's people. These days, the Freemasons and underworlders know full well that GOD has an invincible military, and they're using it at least every other day. T he underworlders and Freemasons are living in a dream world. Those in the underworld use all their technology to make the Freemasons succeed; and everyone else fail. This happens in music and the motion picture industry quite a lot. The young Freemasons d --- * Origin: Trooper`s Place - Wigan, Gtr Manchester, UK (2:250/183.21) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F3W00016 Date: 03/23/98 From: MIKE HURST Time: 12:00am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: (3/3) Awareness briefing part 5 on't know that they are being helped by extraterrestrial technology including time travel). They think they are superior and more intelligent than anyone n earth. The truth is that they are living in a fantasy world where all their dreams come true. The se young Freemasons are also hypnotised and controlled to believe and do anything that those in the underworld want them to. For the Freemasons information, so that they know all of this information is true, I must say that I know about the added sounds y ou put in films and records, you make lies sound glorious! At the moment, the Freemasons are loosing members left , right and centre, so the news of what the Masonic Lodge is mainly about maybe getting to Freemasons, and they don't like it. I have heard that the Freemasons take money off eople for charitable cau ses, and they keep 99 percent of this money for themselves. I must stress hat I have no hard proof of this, but there are people saying things like this that have no ill feelings against the Freemasons, So why would they say these things if they weren't true to a degree. God's newest people to earth (mentioned above) have been targeted by the females associated with the Freemasons for being husbands to them (the male ones that is). These females (I have found out) have blonde hair and know all about the UFO phenomena (but maybe hypnotised not to tell anyone about it or are given very limited information about the subject). Their aim is to have a child with these eople of God's. I think they are trying to be saved at the end of the world by God It seems that they think by being close to one of God's people, they will automatically be saved by od at the end of the world in 1999-2000. I have it on very good authority that this plan of theirs will not work. I would like to add that God is not tupid, they know everything that is going on, especially things to do with their own people. I also would like to add that you don't try to kill all of God's people off in 1945 (the Jews), and then use them to be saved at the end of the world "What a cheek!" think it is very possi ble that these females (the blondes) were put on earth by those of the underworld / Hell. I know all this sounds hard to believe, but it is definitely going on, and to me is very annoying. --- * Origin: Trooper`s Place - Wigan, Gtr Manchester, UK (2:250/183.21) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F3W00017 Date: 03/23/98 From: MIKE HURST Time: 12:00am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: (1/2) Awareness briefing part 6 71) ON A HUMOROUS NOTE A woman had to be sedated today after a paranormal event had occurred. Her husband found her curled up in a corner of their kitchen shaking with fear. e asked her what had happened, and she said that she had been abducted by aliens. He said that those Gr ays are scary, and she said that she wasn't scared of the Grays. She said hat when they took her on board the flying saucer, Philip Klass was there, she said "it was hideous!" A judge today was criticised for being too harsh on a criminal with his sentencing. The judge said that the criminal should be sent to the worst lace on earth, where the scum of society dwells, where there is no hope, so I made him join the Freemasons! In mid 1997, the US Air Force released their final report on the Roswell UFO crash. It said that what had been recovered was the remains of a "balloon" nd some "dummies". Apparently it was the Pentagon's top General's annual balloon and picnic trip that had gone wrong. 72) THE WAR BETWEEN GOD AND HELL If you have learnt all of the information in this text, you will have learnt that there are underground alien bases within earth. These bases have been occupied for thousands of years, and are not bases really, they are places where all different beings l ive and is known to us as Hell. The people of Hell are against GOD, and are t this moment battling against GOD (the Grand Order of Development). In the underworld, there are 9 different sections that think they are the only ones within earth (for a few e xceptions). Each section has it's own craft that have their own dimension hey travel in when there craft are in invisible mode. I have found out which section numbers certain beings live in; in the underworld or not far away in space. The higher the numb er given to each section, the better the beings are physically and mentally. They are as follows : 24 : Blondes (Nordics), 23 : small greys (3 feet tall), 22 : fly like humanoids, 21,20,19 are unknown. Section 18 : white haired humans, sections 17,16, 15 and 14 are unknown. In section 13 there is another group of fly like beings. Section 12 : there are brown haired humans, and the rest are unknown. Then there are the Nine sections that are separate to the above. In these sections they are all homosexuals and lesbians, and as mentioned above, the quality of the beings in these sections increases the greater the number given to it. The beings in the underworld (as they call it), have been doing everything they can to ruin the plans and lives of GOD's people . The ones that are behind this action are the blonde humans in section 24. These people are unbelievably stupid for doing this, as I have found out that they are going to suffer (and are doing right now) for what they have been doing. It says in the Bibl e, that at this time there will be signs underground in the way of smoke and vapour. This smoke and vapour I believe to be the after effects of pontaneous combustion that GOD can do by generating intense heat from another dimension. I believe that this e ntry in the Bible was a result of a message from our present being sent back into the past, and this is how prophecy in the Bible is made. I'm sure that GOD didn't plan on doing this to those from the underground bases that I'm sure the Bible is talking a bout. I think it is a warning for those in the underworld not to do anything wrong or they will be spontaneously combusted. As mentioned earlier in this briefing, I believe it is Lucifer that rules the underworld, and he is supposed to rule the surface al so. Whoever is responsible for all the bad things those in the underworld are doing, I believe that they are going to suffer for what they have done. If ou read Freemasons, UFOs and GOD in this briefing, you will see that it was most probably the Blonde people in the underworld or just outside the solar system that started the second world war, and tried to have blonde people ruling the earth; as Hitler wanted the Aryan (or blonde) race ruling earth. These blonde people in the underworld (or Hell) do not like GOD and their people, so I believe strongly that they had Hitler kill the Jews in the second world war, as the Jews are supposed to be special to GOD. Well, on the American TV programme Sightings, it has featured a number of people that are reincarn ations of the Jews that died at the hands of Hitler's soldiers. When a person is reincarnated, it means that they have been cloned from a person that lived in the past. If GOD has reincarnated all of the Jews (or a large number of them) that died of starv ation etc., in the German concentration camps of Poland etc., and GOD saves them at the end of the world, I'm sure they will want revenge on those blonde people in the underworld that put them through being gassed and beaten. All I can say is : "I wouldn' t want to be a blonde person in the underworld if the Jews get saved at the end of the world." For more on the end of the world read : Aliens have time ravel and the end of the world in this text. I must say that I have learnt that GOD has a way of knowi ng when any craft is being used from the underworld, and where it is at any time, along with who is in it (as every single one of the underworlders are implanted, and this means they give off a specific frequency of sound that OD can use to find out how to control them). GOD also has the capability of going into any dimension the underworlders can go into, and GOD can neutralise them in any dimension also. I would love to tell you where I have learnt all of this from, but I must protect my very reliable source of information. I must mention that I have learnt that there should be no red, blonde or hite haired people on the surface of earth. I found this hard to believe when I heard it, but my source of information as been right about many things, so I have put it here. This m eans that these people must have been put on the surface of earth by those of the underworld. If you read Guardian Angels in this text, you will find out some very important information about the war against GOD. I have found out that it isn't really war, it's more like a slaughter, and it's GOD that is doing the slaughtering. I have found out from my very reliable source of information, that the head f section 24 in the solar system (who's name is most probably Lucifer), is making the ET nine civilisations rape GOD's people on board UFOs. He is doing this o try to "mentally punish GOD". His story is that the nine civilisations are doing this all by themselves, and he has nothing to do with it. He is basically making the nine civilisations do bad things by using hypnoses on them, and then blaming them for what he has made the m do. In turn, the nine civilisations make the Freemasons do bad things to GOD's people and then blame the Freemasons for what they made them do. These idiot ETs don't think about what GOD's people will do to them "when" they get the chance. Why do these cowardly ETs appear in front of me for example, and then try to do bad things to me; instead of hiding behind their technology. Basically, make it a fair fight between GOD's people and the idiot ETs from the solar system; and I'm sure GOD's people will sl aughter them. I'm sorry for those who are reading this to find out about UFOs etc., but these things need to be said, I will try not to say things like his again in this text. If the general public believed in UFOs and knew what was secretly happening to GOD's "unsuspecting" people, they would say the same type of things I have said here. I am sure that GOD is punishing the people of earth by having this idiot Lucifer in charge of earth. Also, I want to know why GOD has not topped the nine and twenty fo ur civilisations from raping their people on board UFOs. It seems likely that GOD made Lucifer make the nine civilisations rape their people in order to et them up. They may have done this in order to have an excuse to get rid of Lucifer and his people. If you think all of what I am saying here is pure fantasy, then remember what happened to the Jews. It was Lucifer who wanted all of GOD's special people "the Jews" dead. For more on this, read : Freemasons, UFOs and GOD in this text. My very reliable sources have come to the conclusion that the star system of Orion have been ruling earth for thousands of years before Christ. They have said that the people of this star system are the ones who had the local Nordic managers of earth sta rt the second world war, where they would have ruled, has Hitler wanted them. And I have found out that GOD stopped this from happening has they could not sit by and watch good people die at the hands of barbaric evil scum; that shouldn't really be ruling anything. Also, I have come to the conclusion that the tan type Gray looking ETs that come from the star system of Orion (who built the pyramids) have een ruling earth to a degree. If you take an aerial photograph of the three main pyramids in Egypt, th ey are aligned exactly like the star system of Orion. I think that the tan type ETs who rule Japan worked hand in hand with the Nordics of our solar system (which they rule also) in the second world war. The tan type ETs rule all people of tan colour, an d the Egyptian people (where the pyramids are) were of tan colour, so it akes sense that the Japanese (one of the richest countries in the world) are ruled by the tan type ETs. Some of these tan type ETs have been seen in the north f Britain, and have b een found to be rapists. GOD keeps these tan type ETs in check as much as hey can. These tan type ETs (I believe) always try to enslave GOD's people ecause they are against GOD. I think that Steven Spielburg made the film ET because he is a Jew and the tan type ETs made them make the film. These tan type ETs are not as intelligent as the tall gray creator type ETs, and the tan type ETs are not happy about this, and are against the tall Gray type ETs that seem to rule everything. When Jesus came to earth , the tan type ETs were stopped from ruling in full (I think), and the Gray type ETs took over (to a degree). I'm pretty sure that Jesus didn't know bout these two types of ETs being at odds; when he agreed to be born here, and so I think it was the tan type ETs that had Jesus put up on the cross, and the Gray ones brought him back from the dead. 73) WE ARE BEING LAUGHED AT BY THOSE FROM HELL My sources have told me that there are many business people controlled by those from the alien underground bases. This sounds completely ridiculous, and I hope you will bare with me when I am explaining what I have learnt about this. Apparently, some of t hose who design clothes in the fashion industry; are trying to get the public to wear ridiculous looking clothes. If you look at some of the things that he clothes designers design and parade on the cat walk, you will probably agree with me one hundred p ercent; that something is not right. The "so called" good looking models; weare some of the most ridiculously looking clothes a person can come up with. The possible reason why these designers are doing this, is that they are fascists and don't think that the public are worthy of wearing the clothes that they are capable of making , so they make clothes that are "jokes" and get people to pay large amounts of money for them through hyping them. I suggest that you make your own mind up about what is the bes t products for you. Apparently there are businesses that are a part of the --- * Origin: Trooper`s Place - Wigan, Gtr Manchester, UK (2:250/183.21) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F3W00018 Date: 03/23/98 From: MIKE HURST Time: 12:00am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: (2/2) Awareness briefing part 6 scheme to rip the public off, and they all recommend each others products. So a magazine will recommend a certain video recorder for example, and the agazine is part of the conspi racy to rip the public off . The makers of the video recorder is also a part of the conspiracy, and the result is that the public are being lied to by the magazine that recommended the video recorder. There are no laws to stop this abuse of the publics tr ust that I know of, and it should be stopped right now. There is the Monopolies and Mergers commission in the UK, but this can't stop secret agreements between certain Fraternities for example. Another area where these business men are making us buy substandard good is the music industry. All of the music stations on TV in my opinion are playing oor quality music on purpose. I think that the TV music stations use the excuse that they play only new music, and that there isn't much good music being made these days. Well I won't swallow any of this. I personally know a lot about music, and can list probably hundreds of records that the TV music stations could play from the past ; which are very go od. I must say that I only like good music, and what I like other people including most of the public like also. Here I want to ask a question to : Sash, Prodigy (who think they are going to consend to outer space, to find another race, "not bloody likely " I say), Moby, New Order (short for the New World Order) The Shaman and The Ace of Base: Where did they tell you the music came from that you used? Did they say it came from divinity? If they did say this, they are not telling he truth. Have any of you in these bands had any bad paranormal experiences? If you have, then I'm not surprised! Also, did you filter out certain high frequency sound in your music? We know everything , and we are watching! I must say sorry to those who don't know what I'm talkin g about here, but these people must be told as much truth as possible. -END --- * Origin: Trooper`s Place - Wigan, Gtr Manchester, UK (2:250/183.21) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F4200000 Date: 03/28/98 From: ROGER NELSON Time: 03:16pm \/To: STEVE KEMP (Read 2 times) Subj: Final Warning :-P CC: Mike Sommer Steve Kemp wrote in a message to Roger Nelson: [...] RN> Had you bothered to read this echo's rules, you wouldn't find RN> yourself in the predicament you're now in. You are hereby suspended RN> for thirty days beginning on 03-27-98. If you wish to debate this RN> suspension, read the rules first which will definitely point you in RN> the right direction. SK> Now you've done it. You are hereby banned from my mailbox for life. SK> If you send me any more harassing mail you will be banned from the SK> planet. SK> Take heed, young monkey! SK> Regards, SK> Steve - Moderator -My Mailbox. SK> (p.s. all i asked is you stop sending me mail. is that too hard for SK> you to figure out?) SK> ___ Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 SK> - Origin: The Coconut Telegraph * Home of FREE Full Internet acc SK> (1:203/126) Okay, Steve, you now are suspended for sixty (60) days. One more word from you in the echo will cause something more severe, so please do what I asked. Regards, Roger Moderator - UFO Echo Roger.Nelson@f7.n3828.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd/2 1.10+ * Origin: NCS BBS - Mandeville, LA - (504) 626-7968 (1:3828/7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F4200001 Date: 03/25/98 From: TROY H. CHEEK Time: 10:44am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: signs The other morning as I was leaving for work in the pre-dawn fog, my headlights lit up something at the end of the driveway. There was a grey, roughly human shaped outline about 4 feet tall. It appeared to be standing exactly in the middle of the two-lane road I was approaching. I gently slowed to a stop as I approaced the end of the driveway. Now, because of the change in viewing angle, I could see that it was actually standing in the neighbor's yard across the road. Unfortunately, because of the angle change, my headlights no longer directly illuminated it. I was expecting it to be an early-morning jogger in a grey jumpsuit, kid waiting for the schoolbus, or something along those lines. On the odd chance it was a burgular, prowler, or grey alien, I got my handcuffs and pepper spray ready. I decided against hitting it with the spotlight because I didn't want to spook it. I watched it for a few minutes to see which way it was moving, and realized it wasn't. I pulled out on the road, which changed the viewing angle again, and I could see that it was actually rectangular, with dark markings that blended in with the fog and distorted the outline. Driving along a few more yards and hitting it with the spotlight, I could read the red letters on the white background telling me which candidate I should elect sheriff. Oh, well. ... USER ERROR: Replace user and press any key to continue. --- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: When Starlings Mate - Benton, TN (1:362/708.4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F4200002 Date: 03/26/98 From: JACK SARGEANT Time: 05:23pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Cancer claims Steve Schiff for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:03:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:28:57 -0800 From: "Terry J. Blanton" To: updates@globalserve.net Subject: Schiff Passes .c The Associated Press ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - Steve Schiff, whose battle with skin cancer forced him to decide not to run for re-election this year, died today at age 51. The five-term New Mexico Republican, who had been fighting aggressive squamous-cell skin cancer for more than a year, died this morning at his Albuquerque home. Schiff had been absent from Washington, D.C., since last April but had been continuing to conduct 1st Congressional District from home. During his years in Congress, Schiff was credited with a compromise plan that allowed Speaker Newt Gingrich to resolve ethics allegations by paying a $300,000 penalty to reimburse the government for investigative costs. Once, when Schiff opposed a congressional pay raise, he donated the amount of the raise that year to charity. He also gained headlines in 1993, reopening a federal investigation into the so-called Roswell Incident in which extraterrestrial beings were purported to have crashed northwest of Roswell in 1947. Schiff asked the General Accounting Office, Congress' investigative arm, to seek Air Force documents relating to the incident. The Air Force said a secret high-tech spy balloon crashed, not an alien spacecraft. AP-NY-03-25-98 1513EST \_______________________________________________/ __ __ _____ _____ /\ \/\ \/\ __\/\ __`\ Instant Archives at: \ \ \ \ \ \ \_/\ \ \/\ \ http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates \ \ \ \ \ \ _\\ \ \ \ \ UFO UpDates - Toronto \ \ \_\ \ \ \/ \ \ \_\ \ updates@globalserve.net \ \_____\ \_\ \ \_____\ ++ 416-696-0145 \/_____/\/_/ \/_____/ Operated by Errol Bruce-Knapp __ __ ____ __ /\ \/\ \ /\ _ `\ /\ \__ \ \ \ \ \ _____\ \ \/\ \ __ \ \ ,_\ __ ____ \ \ \ \ \/\ __`\ \ \ \ \ / __ \ \ \ \/ /'__`\ / __\ \ \ \_\ \ \ \_\ \ \ \_\ \/\ \ \ \_\ \ \_/\ __//\__, `\ \ \_____\ \ __/\ \____/\ \__/ \_\\ \__\ \____\/\____/ \/_____/\ \ \ \/___/ \/__/\/_/ \/__/\/____/\/___/ +-+-+-+\ \_\+-+-+-+ +-+-+ +-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |T|h|e| \/_/|E|-|M|a|i|l| |L|i|s|t| |S|e|r|v|i|c|e| +-+-+-+ +-+-+-+ +-+-+ +-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: -=Keep Watching the Skies=- Email to: ufo1@juno.com (1:379/12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F4200003 Date: 03/26/98 From: JACK SARGEANT Time: 05:25pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Area 51 "pioneer" for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:16:45 -0500 (EST) From: Stig_Agermose@online.pol.dk (Stig Agermose) To: updates@globalserve.net Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:49:45 +0100 Subject: Anthropologist Shows Video Of Secret Expedition To Area 51 >From the Los Angeles Times. URL: http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/POLITICS/t000028664.html ******* Wednesday, March 25, 1998 A Search on Forbidden Ground History: An anthropologist tracing a doomed Gold Rush wagon train ventures into the Air Force's supersecret Area 51. By BOB POOL, Times Staff Writer If you're hunting for signs of travelers lost in uncharted space, what better place to look than the land of flying saucers? That's where anthropologist Jerry Freeman of Pearblossom found himself when he set off to follow the trail of the Lost '49ers--the wagon train that ended up in the desert instead of the gold fields when it made a wrong turn about 150 years ago. It was a stubborn guide that sent the wagon train crawling through the empty desert on a journey that ended in tragedy and gave Death Valley its name. It was a stubborn government, however, that sent Freeman creeping through the same cactus-studded terrain, now better known as the Air Force's supersecret Area 51, north of Las Vegas. When officials refused to escort the 55-year-old Freeman onto their isolated Nevada test range to hunt for remnants of the ill-fated pioneer expedition, he set out on his own secret expedition. He didn't see any UFOs on his weeklong hike into the research and test center, Freeman says. But Area 51's high-tech guards didn't see him, either. Famous for swooping down on sightseers who venture too close to Area 51, the security force is known as a no-nonsense crew that reportedly uses hidden ground sensors and infrared viewing devices to look for intruders. Roving armed guards in four-wheel-drive vehicles and helicopters also patrol the center. "I feel if they'd caught me in there they'd have lit me up like a Roman candle," said Freeman, a Cal State Long Beach cultural anthropology graduate who works as an Antelope Valley teacher. Although the government is tight-lipped about what goes on there, the site 100 miles north of Las Vegas is thought by some aviation buffs to be a testing ground for Stealth aircraft. More fanciful lore, most recently bolstered by the movie "Independence Day," suggests that the government studies captured flying saucers in special labs that are hidden beneath the area's dry lake beds. Freeman maintains that he was looking for evidence of the Lost '49ers, not of space aliens, when he stuffed a backpack full of food and water canteens last April 27 and sneaked into the Nevada test range. The story of the Lost '49ers is one of the saddest chapters of the California Gold Rush. The pioneers were traveling with a group of about 100 wagons headed west to the Mother Lode in late 1849. Remembering the misfortunes of the Donner party that had been trapped two years earlier by snow in the Sierra Nevada, the wagon train decided to bypass the mountains by heading south. Near what is now Cedar City, Utah, the wagon train's guide came across a map that showed what appeared to be a shortcut through the mountains. Hoping to save time, the group turned west once more. More than half the wagons backtracked after a few miles when their owners realized that mountains were ahead. The 27 others kept following the bogus map and soon found themselves lost. What resulted was a seven-week ordeal that ended up costing the Lost '49ers their wagons full of possessions, their oxen and, in the case of at least four of them, their lives. Nine others were never found. Their 330-mile trek sent them meandering through some of this country's most rugged and arid land. One group was stranded in a waterless area that they named Death Valley in honor of a companion who died there. Survivors of the wagon train regrouped in February 1850 near what is now the Santa Clarita Valley's Magic Mountain before continuing on to the gold country. Two years ago, Freeman and a small group of amateur historians and archeology buffs retraced the route of the Lost '49ers and located six of the seven trail markers that the pioneers had carved on rocks and then carefully noted in a wagon train journal. But government officials blocked their entry onto the Nevada test grounds. The Air Force turned down repeated requests to escort Freeman--blindfolded if necessary--to the seventh rock inscription. The Pentagon even rejected an appeal on his behalf from Rep. Howard P. "Buck" McKeon (R-Santa Clarita). Freeman said he started his unauthorized 100-mile round-trip hike from an isolated side of the Department of Energy's nuclear test site, skirting craters left from atomic bomb blasts before entering the forbidden Air Force land. Once there, he hiked to Nye Canyon and Papoose Lake--two sites mentioned in the wagon train journal. The canyon is where the 1849 inscription was carved in rock; the dry lake bed is where pioneers pitched camp the last time before splitting up and sending one group to its Death Valley doom. In his handwritten journal, Freeman records how he avoided detection by traveling at night and ducking behind clumps of cactus when guards appeared. He describes a large "city" of buildings illuminated at night by pulsating lights (an old nuclear device assembly area, it later turned out), strange vibrations in the ground and a mysterious ship that rests on the desert sand (a remnant of the days of atmospheric testing, authorities said). He also discovered what seemed to be a lighted doorway that appeared and disappeared in the darkness of distant Papoose Lake--thought by conspiracy buffs to be the site of an underground hangar where scientists have tried to reverse-engineer a crashed flying saucer. Freeman said he managed to reach Nye Canyon but didn't find the inscription. By the time he got there, he was out of water and had only a few hours of daylight to search before making a moonlit dash back to a Department of Energy water pipe to refill his canteens. By that time, a thirsty and weakened Freeman had done what the Lost '49ers had done: jettisoned all nonessential gear to lighten his load. Left behind were binoculars, clothing, a butane stove and a cellular phone that he had used to make coded calls to family and friends to report his hike's progress, he said. Several months after his unauthorized trek, a Las Vegas newspaper published portions of Freeman's journal detailing his trip. That caused jaws to drop in government offices. "It disappointed us and hurt our feelings," said Capt. Lee Bloom, a spokesman for Nellis Air Force Base, where Area 51 is located. "We don't have a lot of trespassing." Freeman says he only photographed geographic features on his hike, no classified subjects. He recently screened an edited, eight-minute video of his trip to an impressed audience at the Adventurers' Club of Los Angeles. Freeman plans to write a book about his trek. And he's convinced that he came within a few hundred yards of the '49ers' inscription. "Another couple of quarts of water, another couple of hours," he said, "and I'd have found it." Copyright Los Angeles Times --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: -=Keep Watching the Skies=- Email to: ufo1@juno.com (1:379/12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F4200004 Date: 03/26/98 From: JACK SARGEANT Time: 10:15pm \/To: FRED AUSTIN (Read 2 times) Subj: Skeptics > -=> Quoting Steve Kemp to Jack Sargeant <=- > -> OK, you got the last word in, so please shut-up already. > SK> Well, it shouldn't have come to an argument of law...and it wasn't. > SK> The argument was about PROOF concerning UFO's (with aliens in'em) and > SK> how there isn't any. > SK> Now, shut me up with some facts. If you can't then just mind your own > SK> business. > hehehhe, you're about to be shut up big time sonny.... ^^^^^^^ Hee hehehe, you just bought a one week vacation for being so gleeful of Steve Kemp's suspension. You are on your honor to NOT post to UFO from March 28 to April 3. Fred, you have been baiting Steve along, and your other posts in this packet reflect this. You are aggravating an already volatile situation, and if you two do it again, I'll refuse to let both of you communicate with each other in the open echo. Fred, if I had let this gone uncontested, Steve would think you were getting away with murder. Since you are LESS guilty than he, the fee for your glee from me you will agree is somewhat less, don't you see, teehee! Jack Jack Sargeant, Moderator -=UFO echo=- --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: -=Keep Watching the Skies=- Email to: ufo1@juno.com (1:379/12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F4200005 Date: 03/30/98 From: JACK SARGEANT Time: 07:18am \/To: IVY IVERSON (Read 2 times) Subj: ??? > -=> On 03-27-98 22:21, Steve Kemp said to Fred Austin,<=- > -=>"About Skeptics...,"<=- > Hi, Jack; > You're the head moderator here. Most of the time. > I have a suggestion. (See tagline)... > -> -> OK, you got the last word in, so please shut-up already. > [Snip] > I find all this hard-core swearing, (which I cleaned up in this > message!), > highly offensive! If SK wants out of the echo, all he has to do is > quit > reading it! _NOBODY_ is twisting his arm to read it! > This from the Mod/Co-Mod of several other echos in 5 nets, who would > not > tolerate it in any them. > Catch you later... Now comes my suggestion... > Ivy > ... Moderator.pas: USES echomail, netmail, complaint, feedcut! It is being attended to. When a disruptive user's sysop in un-cooperative, it takes a little longer. Regards, Jack --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: -=Keep Watching the Skies=- Email to: ufo1@juno.com (1:379/12)