--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F1300018 Date: 01/02/98 From: JACK SARGEANT Time: 01:30am \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: NEXXUS 1/2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "acsa" ['Ed Wang'] To: updates@globalserve.net Subject: My Turn to Beef at the Air Force! Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:34:56 -0500 Everyone who wrote me today to ask me my opinion of NEXXUS and RISKERS, here is what I found out on a little casual inspection of their material and with a little friendly help from Lone Bob Wolf and security at ACC (they were working today, by the way...): Boy are those guys (NEXXUS/RISKERS) stupid. For everyone: NEXXUS is an alleged organization on whose page you notice several interesting and bizarre things: HERE IS THEIR AFFIDAVIT ABOUT THE AGE OF THEIR ORGANIZATION: IT'S ONE WEEK OLD! NOTE THAT THEY CLAIM BRUCE MACABEE, JEFF RENSE and STANTON FRIEDMAN ARE THEIR "DIRECTORS", ALONG WITH "DOZENS OF PHYSICISTS AND SCIENTISTS", ACCORDING TO THEIR ALLEGED LEADER. ANYONE WONDER WHY A GROUP THAT WOULD LIE RIGHT FROM THE VERY START, EXPECTS TO BE BELIEVED? RENSE, ACC/Shulman and FREIDMAN have denied being directors, according to Bob, RENSE was never even contacted by "NEXXUS". Here's the piece of the bogus "NEXXUS" page I wanted you to see: ===== FROM "NEXXUS.ORG" ====== After only a week of getting this project going, we found ourselves under attack by the American Computer Company. To this day we have no idea as to why. Click the image to the left to find out the whole story in which this business tried to assassinate Lan Lamphere's character via the world wide web without cause. Here are our final comments on this event. As of now, it is a dead issue. ============================== I note that NEXXUS contacted Stanton Friedman, then claimed that he was a director at NEXXUS, contacted Bruce Macabee, ACC/Shulman, and tried to get the private home phone of Jeff Rense to contact him. That is what "NEXXUS" did! Here is how NEXXUS's SCAM goes: Call Macabee, tell him Friedman and hundreds of others are directors of NEXXUS. Then Call Friedman, say the same thing. Then call ACC and tell them Friedman and Macabee "are directors". This is obviously a "BUILDUP" Scam, and the guy who calls himself "Lan Lamphere" and resides, according to the Internic, on Salisbury St, in Norman, OK, isn't real. He is either a Government Agent working in an undercover capacity, either CIA or Air Force. Notice the timing - shortly after ACC announced the Transcapacitor, all of the sudden, this guy surfaces and runs around lying from person to person, that his newly contrived "org" NEXXUS, is directed by all the famous names he can think of in the UFO community. Then he has the gall to admit his organization is less than a week old (see above, posted three days ago, when ACC confronted him, right on NEXXUS'S website). Therefore, "NEXXUS" has only existed in the mind of the person using the name "Lan Lamphere", since December 21, 1997 (10 days)!! Hundreds of scientists and nuclear physicists, plus famous people like Friedman, Macabee, Shulman, Rense and others, in under a Week? What a bunch of shit!! Robert "Lone Bob" Wolf, told me he had had several run ins with people who mistook him for the "BJ Wolf" that supposedly works for "riskers" on certain matters, and supposedly has a loony toons reputation. So, he did a little checking out of the Riskers group: he says his friends in Navy OSI laughingly have told him that RISKERS is a partly CIA, partly Air Force Intelligence, funded "Confidential Undercover" Group operating under control of MI located at "Tinker AFB" in Oklahoma City ("NEXXUS"), and out of the "Air Force Intelligence Special Education Section" situated at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Co. ("Riskers"). It's part of an "Information Warfare" training program operating there, they say. Their operating membership (aside from "Jake Cravatz", "Todd Andrews" and "Myk Zimmerman" - alleged founders) all appear, according to their own website (riskers.org) to have been born in 1981 or after (making them under the age needed to drive - accordingly - no drivers licenses for verification of their identities). A perfect cover. AND THIS GUY, Lamphere, is apparently soliciting MONEY to support his imaginary organization, right on his website, here - read: ===== From "NEXXUS.ORG" ========= Some files at Nexxus.Org have not been published to the open public by the authors. Therefore, only donors to the organization have access to these directories. If you would like to become a donor of this organization, please click here. Donors Files here ====================================== What an UNBELIEVABLE Scam! About as credible as Dan Wollman's (see my past archive posts on the phony "In Search Of" listserv, and Dan Wollman, masquerading as a PhD, when he, according to his college, NEVER GOT ONE!) partner, known as "The Tucson Kid" having posted a bunch of disinformation on the SISTER WEBSITE to "NEXXUS" - "RISKERS.ORG" - another nutcase site from the DISINFORMATION LEAGUE. Tucson Kid is notorious for constructing these fantastic, bogus allegations about "The Omega society" which he claims Ronald Reagan and George Bush are the heads of. He is a reportedly a low level nut in the depths of the Democratic Party food chain, spreading false information & exercising character assassination on anything Republican in nature. He's probably even been co-opted by a foreign intelligence organization, if you read his bullshit correctly. According to a Riskers spokesperson, he is behind their "Omega" story, and worse, the Tucson Kid is also the MODERATOR of Dan Wollman's bogus bullshit "In Search Of" list server. Riskers claims they believe almost entirely in his bullshit "Omega" story. The story is intended to HIDE the existence of the E2 Organization discovered by Lone Bob Wolf and his investigators! >>> Continued to next message --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: -=Keep Watching the Skies=- ufo1@juno.com (1:379/12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F1300019 Date: 01/02/98 From: JACK SARGEANT Time: 01:32am \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: NEXXUS, CONT. 2/2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Continued from previous message Hasn't anyone bothered to wonder why former presidents of the US would leave office to form a group to "run the world", particularly one with Alzheimer's, and the other who has indicated he'd like to get as far away from the Presidency as he can? And, that's what the Tuscon Kid says is behind our "tax money" being wasted? What a bunch of Shit! Our tax paying money is being wasted on the likes of CREATING websites like RISKERS, NEXXUS and related List Servers (read on)!! So: QED - obviously RISKERS, NUFOIA, NEXXUS and WOLLMAN-InSearchOf, are all part of one and the same little "grand conspiracy", and read on - you'll be surprised where I think it stems from!! ======== From "NEXXUS.ORG" =============== What is Nexxus.Org? Click Here Nexxus.Org is a sister site to RISKERS-NUFOIA ========================================== and ======== From "RISKERS.ORG" =============== Nexxus.org: Check out nexxus.org. This is THE scientific investigative organization on the web. It Rules, trust us! ========================================== Funny how these two Web Sites, appear really to be one and the same. I am of the opinion that the Air Force is behind them, and is using them as a front to manipulate public opinion. The CIA is probably involved, probably because it is using the information generated by the operating personnel behind these two, er, one bogus organizations, for its own purposes. I note that they love to bash ex-presidents, but the nearest thing they have come to a current administration official, is to suggest that Hillary Clinton knows that "Omega" exists. What poppy cock!! Mrs. Clinton thinks "It Takes a Village"! My opinionated ultimate conclusion about Riskers and NEXXUS? Hey, People: you're being fooled by an INTELLIGENCE TRAINING ACADEMY "living classroom" created LIVE for you on the INTERNET!!!! Very Illegal, but Lone Bob Wolf tells me the Air Force Office of Consular Operations (the legal oversight group responsible) doesn't agree "Not a Black Project, Just a Grey Project!" Or, perhaps, an "Anti-Grey Project", Mr. Defense Secretary Cohen? Did you sign the budget that's paying for this little "Project"? The Air Force Intelligence Personnel maintaining the sites should be arrested, and prosecuted right along side their superiors, all the way to the "top guy" operating such an ABOMINATION!! Oh, by the way, ACC security told me they voice stress printed the person calling using the name "Lan Lamphere" last week and the week before, and the voice prints aren't even of the same person, though the originating phone number is from a desk in a residence in Norman, Oklahoma, but that the number appears to be a "repeater" which relays elsewhere in Oklahoma!! To Tinker Air Force Base, do you think? How Perfect ! I just may not PAY my taxes this year!!! -- Ed Wang --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: -=Keep Watching the Skies=- ufo1@juno.com (1:379/12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F1300020 Date: 01/01/98 From: GEORGE JIRI OPLETAL Time: 04:18pm \/To: PAUL ANDINACH (Read 3 times) Subj: What would really happen? PA> Just like (if you'll excuse me for mentioning it) many people can't PA> see what would be so great about Heaven: we are imperfect beings, PA> so we can't grasp what a perfect existence would be like. Yet, we do not know what perfect existence is, have no evidence for it, so why complicate matters? --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: Beyond Reality: UFO/Paranormal Archives (03) 9773-3721 (3:632/562) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F1300021 Date: 01/01/98 From: GEORGE JIRI OPLETAL Time: 04:26pm \/To: FRED AUSTIN (Read 3 times) Subj: ACC Saga FA> So lets sum up. No docs. Well, thats not a good sign. Not even FA> a page of the alleged piles of pages of tech info that their FA> engineering dept? went through. (Engineering dept?, these people FA> seem to be building PC's, piecing them together, they do make FA> themselves out to be this corporate entity, yet they are not in the FA> computer shopper which has alot of the mid sized computer builders, FA> I guess that is an oversight.) Time will naturally tell us, whats the real motive is here. Since I haven not s seen the site myself, I tend to agree with you. Its not worth much without displaying the evidence. I does smell similar to the autopsy film, does it not? --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: Beyond Reality: UFO/Paranormal Archives (03) 9773-3721 (3:632/562) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F1300022 Date: 12/30/97 From: PAUL ANDINACH Time: 07:29pm \/To: CHARLES MIELKE (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: CARL SAGAN ON UFOS -=> Quoting Charles Mielke to Fred Austin <=- CM> I haven't heard all of Sagan's viewpoints, probably, CM> but he says, "Where is the evidence?" , implying CM> that he isn't saying whether he believes Alien Space CM> Craft are visiting us, or not, but, rather, if they CM> ARE visiting, they haven't given anyone any alien CM> coffee cups or T-shirts. Sagan has stated that he doesn't think belief is relevant, only evidence; he thinks the evidence for life on other planets is pretty good, but that the evidence for that life visiting this planet is not very good. PAul ... Who remembers Laura Palmer? --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Perth PC Users Group BBS - 08-9497-7772 (3:690/650) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F1300023 Date: 12/30/97 From: PAUL ANDINACH Time: 07:34pm \/To: MICHAEL TAUSON (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: A surprize from the -=> Quoting Michael Tauson to Jack Sargeant <=- JS> making public all past top-secret information that is not considered JS> a matter of national security." Although no mention of UFOs were MT> Define "national security". Or, better yet, have the MT> government do so. Impossible. Think about it. Any attempt to give a vague definition will only get the government in deeper, but any amount of specificity would breach national security. MT> Then have them define what all that includes. You actually expect somebody to come forward and say, "Topics currently protected matters of national security include the Aurora jet plane, the spy network in Moscow, the bugs on the phones in the Iranian embassy, UFOs ... Be serious. You can go to jail for life for revealing things like that. Paul ... "I thought YOU had the controls!" - black box record found at Roswell --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Perth PC Users Group BBS - 08-9497-7772 (3:690/650) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F1300024 Date: 12/30/97 From: PAUL ANDINACH Time: 07:59pm \/To: PAUL THORNTON (Read 3 times) Subj: Contact by radio -=> Quoting PAUL THORNTON to PAUL ANDINACH <=- GL> &`~^R"^'?^~`$"'~\$~@ 6^U~^"#^&~G"^~E Voicebuzzer: 06-60238908 GL> # "~&$ &M " % " /@ $ 9 $ 6"H " %8 (! e-mail: Starlight@hunze.iwg.nl GL> $"^ @% [8 # ! & ]# ~"& @ " 1 @ #R %{ Fido: 2:2802/216 GL> `"`^~'^"`"^~^`"^'~"`^^"~`'^~^"`~"^~' PA> Received here in Australia. What's the rectangle of symbols for? PT> If you look carefully, you can see the word "STARLIGHT". Not obvious PT> - but it is there! Quite clever... Yep, once I knew what to look for, it's reasonably clear. GL> ... Een ezel stoot zich niet 2x aan dezelfde steen. Ik ben geen ezel. PA> Um, I'll take your word for it. Mostly because I have no idea what PA> you just said. PT> I'll plant a negative on that one as well. Anyone willing to PT> enlighten us? See tagline. PT> And just to return us to the right topic... what do you PT> think are the chances of acutally communicating with UFO's via radio PT> signals, like in 'Contact'? It would depend on what type of communication you were trying to achieve. The vast distances would rule out any normal radio conversation, for example. The other problem is that of understanding. We and they develop on completely different planets. The fact that they thought of sending radio signals suggests they think a bit like we do, but that's no guarantee that we'll be able to understand their language. Paul ... A donkey won't bump into the same rock twice. I'm not a donkey. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Perth PC Users Group BBS - 08-9497-7772 (3:690/650) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 221 UFO Ref: F1300025 Date: 01/02/98 From: IVY IVERSON Time: 04:36pm \/To: JACK SARGEANT (Read 3 times) Subj: [1/2] believabilty >>> Part 1 of 2... -=> On 01-01-98 13:04, Jack Sargeant said to Ivy Iverson,<=- -=>"About believabilty...,"<=- Hi, Jack; II> Others have said that the ET's know that something major is going to II> happen to this planet within the next few years, and they have come to II> either study it, or to help us in some way. Is it not POSSIBLE? II> So does that make me an FTB? Maybe so. JS> Careful, Lass! I can call myself a bi**h because I am, (when sufficently provoked!), so why can't I call myself an FTB? Am I like that wild-eyed leader of the HG cult? H3|| NO! But if having the _opinion_ that "they are visiting us" makes me an FTB, then I guess I am one. But then I know and have known a number of people personally who claim to have been contactees/ abductees, including "JP" who tells the most convincing story of not only being abducted and contacted off and on since his teens, but also tells of being raped by an ET when he was in his teens, and a half-human/half-ET daughter, who now lives in space being the result of that rape, who visits him occasionally. His sister has independantly verified to me seeing him entering a UFO when they were school kids. His whole family have been contactees for at least two generations. A most facinating fellow indeed! Then there's JM, who tells of some "very interesting" ET contacts while he was in the USAF. (I can understand why he is a bit on the paranoid side). These are but two of a dozen or so personal friends I have known in over half a century who have such tales to tell, though they do NOT "advertise" these stories to everyone they meet - they are afraid of being labeled as Kooks. So they have nothing to gain from their stories, since they aren't about to write a book or otherwise go public. As I say, they are/have been personally known to me, and are not the type to spin yarns. I believe their stories, though you probably wouldn't, even if you had known them as I have. I started out as an open-minded curious person, was fortunate enough to have met these people among my personal acquaintences, listened to their stories, and judged what they told me on the basis of knowing their individual personalities. But am I going to try to hitch a ride on the next comet that comes by? GET REAL! JS> Maybe the superior technology of the aliens has permitted them to JS> deduce that the earth is going to be struck by a huge meteor or JS> asteroid that will wipe out all life on the planet... ...And they JS> want to learn as much about us as they can before the event takes JS> place. ...Maybe a select few of us will get to take that big ride JS> in the sky in their mothership--saved for the purpose of keeping JS> the human race alive. Could be. -=< SPECULATION ALERT! >=- There are other possabilities: _IF_ a giant meteor were headed our way and the ET's know about it, if they have the technology to travel light years to get here, wouldn't they have the technology to deflect that big rock enough to make it miss us? Methinks they probably would. No, I'm afraid that we, as a civilization, are in danger, but I don't feel that the greatest danger is from space. I feel that there are two major threats to civilization on this planet at this point in history: 1) Poleshift. Science has proven that the axis, (magnetic if not spin), of this planet has shifted many times in the past, and we are about due again. There are several theories about what will happen when this occurs - none of them particularly plesant. One of the biggies is that the whole planet will rotate so that the new North pole will be somewhere in/near the Indian Ocean. (Want a discussion of how and why this could happen?) As predicted in the Bible and by hundreds of psychics over the years - famous and obscure - earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and other natural disasters are on the increase along with more and more weather anomolies. Example: The worst El Nino in history triggering two of the strongest Pacific hurricanes in recorded history, one of which produced the highest wind ever recorded on the planet and practically reducing Guam to a clean piece of rock. The list goes on. Even the Sun is getting into the act, with CMEs knocking out communication satelites. We are definately in a time of change, both social and environmental, and we haven't seen the end of it yet. Will poleshift - assuming it is imminant - happen within the lifetime of people alive today? The accepted theory is that the first thing that happens is that the strength of the Earth's magnetic field drops from it's previous strength to zero before reversing or at leas shifting. Fact: The strength of the field HAS been dropping rapidly since around the 1940's, and is now less than 10% of what it was then. Is this the precursor to poleshift? Perhaps. 2) Ourselves. With the state of world affairs, and leaders like Saddam, with the weapons of mass destruction which he either has or is trying to develop, he and other madmen would just love to take over the world and remold it in their image, disaster is a real possability. Add to that the conditions in our streets - when teenagers shoot other teenagers to get their fancy jackets or shoes, innocent bystanders getting shot in their homes because of a drug deal gone bad in the street... we may not have to wait for Saddam and his ilk to give us some exotic disease to kill us off - we may do it to ourselves. AND don't forget more and more mysterious diseases showing up, from AIDS over a decade ago to to Ebola to who-knows-what. There is a new flu-like disease which has hospitals in California running at full capacity - they are forced to turn away new patients because there isn't a bed to be found... and people are dying from this new affliction! Are these symptoms of the plagues spoken of in Revelations? And we are poisoning the ecology with everything from releasing toxic chemicals to burning the rain forests: the lungs of the planet. Do we need the help of someone wiser than ourselves to survive? Quite possible. "We have met the enemy and he is us." We are NOT living in a safe world today - and it will get worse before it gets better... if it doe.s Hopefully it will get better while we are still alive to enjoy it. However _IF_ we can manage - with or without "outside help" - to survive and solve our social problems, (local and international), then we MAY be invited to join "The Federation of Planets," (if such exists). Again, this is ASSUMING that we are being visited by "someone" from "Out there." And if we aren't, we just may be in the proverbial deep doodoo. JS> Hale-Boppity-re-bop. >>> Continued to next message... ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] --- TriToss (tm) 1.03 - (Unregistered) * Origin: Ivy's WALL BBS - Sheboygan, WI 920-457-9255 (1:154/170)