--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 220 GEOWORKS Ref: DDK00001 Date: 09/15/96 From: ARTHUR STEVENS Time: 10:46am \/To: EDWARD DI GERONIMO JR. (Read 1 times) Subj: REPUBLISHER OFFERINGS > fine. If it works, I'll tell everyone how to upgrade for free. Edward, this is not on, regardless of how clever you are. Artie artie@cloud.net.au Australian co-ordinator - GeoNet --- FMail 1.0g * Origin: G-OS - GeoZ Online Services Melbourne (03)9803-6498 (3:633/272) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 220 GEOWORKS Ref: DDK00002 Date: 09/15/96 From: KRISHNA GANS Time: 11:35pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: GEOS and handscanner ? why not :-) Hej All! I posted this text in COMP.OS.GEOS too I had to scan some CD-covers with a hand-scanner. CD covers needs to be scanned twice, left and right part. There are two possibilities: Scan together - or - scan separately and put the to scans together in a graphic-programm like Picture Publisher, what I use.I tried both possibilities and the results ??? I must say, the cover was a bit "difficult" for Picture Publisher :-((. But than I had _the_ idea !! I cutted the two scans out, without any border, saved both pictures separately as 256 color-GIF, fired up GEOWORKS/-DRAW, imported the two GIFs, and had 0 (zero) difficulties to put the scans together. A secod advantage to use GEOWORKS for scanned pictures I found scanning a coin. Having scanned the coin, I cutted out with the circle-option in PP. The result was a rectangular picture with the coin in the center of the picture, the corners stil were showed with the original background. Fired up GEOWORKS/-DRAW, imported the saved GIF, I drawed a circle with the same measurement the coin has, put the circle behind the coin, cut out the coin, marking the circle and than "fill in..." or what the function - name of the English version will be. ( I use the German one ) Result: a real round coin, like the original. Tschuess, Krishna --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Gans, mit 'S', wie 'Ente' :-) (2:244/2122.15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 220 GEOWORKS Ref: DDK00003 Date: 09/15/96 From: JAY FULLER Time: 11:14am \/To: TERRI FERRIER (Read 1 times) Subj: YOUR MAIL MAY BE MISSING TF>Peter! You're Back!! Were your ears burning? We were just talking TF>about you the other day and were wondering what happened to you. I'm TF>glad to see you still hanging with us. Tell us what's new with you. When...is our cutoff date on those CD'S? I definately want one, but I'm not exactly rich right now! :( --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Deep Space Nine BBS - [205] 734-0818/734-0763-Cullman AL (1:3607/22) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 220 GEOWORKS Ref: DDK00004 Date: 09/14/96 From: ANNE PAGE Time: 06:02pm \/To: CHRIS SALLEK (Read 1 times) Subj: CROSS-POSTS I've seen a couple of things in comp.os.geos the past couple of days that I think would interest the people over here. If I don't see Sam Ewalt bringing them into the echo in the next few days, do you want me to cross-post them? Or shall I send them to you as I mentioned in the earlier message to which I have not seen a reply from you yet? Or should I send them to him with a suggestion that he should post them? I don't know if there's a glitch in the net or what, but I haven't seen anything here from Sam in a good while. He is still here, isn't he? Anne Page * SLMR 2.1a * A friend is a present you give yourself. --- QScan/PCB v1.16b / 01-0075 * Origin: PSL Online Houston, TX 713-442-6704 @psl-online.com (1:106/6256) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 220 GEOWORKS Ref: DDK00005 Date: 09/14/96 From: ANNE PAGE Time: 07:12pm \/To: EDWARD DI GERONIMO JR. (Read 1 times) Subj: Geoworks Echo Rules Hi, Edward. EDGJ>>but I had trouble with messages getting out recently. So you said in an earlier message I saw. It looks like it's fixed now though. Welcome back! Anne Page * SLMR 2.1a * Cheerfulness is the window cleaner of the mind. --- QScan/PCB v1.16b / 01-0075 * Origin: PSL Online Houston, TX 713-442-6704 @psl-online.com (1:106/6256) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 220 GEOWORKS Ref: DDK00006 Date: 09/14/96 From: ANNE PAGE Time: 07:18pm \/To: EDWARD DI GERONIMO JR. (Read 1 times) Subj: NEW STUFF UNDERWAY EDGJ>>Here's a quick hint at my progress... Very commendable but you're not working on what I want. EDGJ>>I wrote a program to control the volume of the SoundBlaster, works, EDGJ>>but I have a few UI problems. This will be good for people who have SoundBlaster. Not for me. EDGJ>>QWK Reader - started, but it'll take a while. Still haven't a clue how EDGJ>>I'm going to unzip the packets. I'm happy with my old SLMR and don't mind leaving GEOS to do BBS stuff. EDGJ>>Started writing a MIDI player... Don't even know what a MIDI is so this means nothing to me. What I want, Edward, dear, is to be able in GeoWrite and GeoDraw to select some lines of text and change them from uppercase to lowercase or vice versa or to initial caps without having to apply a different font or retype and to have macros for repetitive keyboard sequences. It's all I've ever wanted all these years. Anne Page * SLMR 2.1a * If you have to make a choice and don't, that's a choice. --- QScan/PCB v1.16b / 01-0075 * Origin: PSL Online Houston, TX 713-442-6704 @psl-online.com (1:106/6256) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 220 GEOWORKS Ref: DDK00007 Date: 09/14/96 From: ANNE PAGE Time: 08:56pm \/To: DOUG FITZPATRICK (Read 1 times) Subj: For Your Information Hi, Doug. DF>>AP> But it did make some promises, and it is keeping them. DF>>What were these promises? Only one with regard to the desktop, that I DF>>remember, was that they were "de-emphasizing" it. True. But I recall messages way back when I first started reading comp.os.geos and this echo in late 1993 and early 1994 by some of the GWREPs that it was their understanding that the company was not going to do additional development of the desktop but that it was going to arrange for a republisher to handle the desktop and any enhancements to it, and I vaguely recall some stuff about it in the Rotundas that were posted on comp.os.geos in those days. I don't save old mail packets but for a very short time, so I can't quote chapter and verse or even identify which GWREP said what or when. DF>>Where/when was this commitment made? I can't answer this question for the reason stated above. I just have a recollection that it was made and disseminated either on the Internet newsgroup or here. DF>>It's been a while since I looked at SLMR, but doesn't it have twit DF>>filter capability? Not my version. I have the original one that is now so old that it is freeware. It's easy to use and I have enjoyed it so I've not gotten around to trying anything else. DF>>Sam is x-posting Helmar's work here! Thanks for advising me. I'll just read the index to the echomail first and skip over those posts. Seeing them once in comp.os.geos was more than enough for me. Anne Page * SLMR 2.1a * Store dog food in trash cans; put trash in dog food bags. --- QScan/PCB v1.16b / 01-0075 * Origin: PSL Online Houston, TX 713-442-6704 @psl-online.com (1:106/6256) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 220 GEOWORKS Ref: DDK00008 Date: 09/15/96 From: SAM EWALT Time: 07:42pm \/To: DOUG FITZPATRICK (Read 1 times) Subj: For Your Information Hello Doug, Couldn't agree with you more about Usenet Anarchy. I rather enjoy the roiling contention and verbal fur flying. Let everyone express themselves, I say. You wrote: -> It's been a while since I looked at SLMR, but doesn't it have twit -> filter capability? (better use it quick, Sam is x-posting Helmar's -> work here!) If Helmar has something interesting and useful to say (and he frequently does, despite his propensity to spew flame bait) I will indeed cross post it here. I thought his review of the Nokia "smart phone" very informative and not at all inflamatory. I am not interested in fanning any flames myself, but will try to use good judgement. My personal opinion is that there could be a market for Geoworks Ensemble\New Deal Office especially in Africa, South America and parts of Asia where lower end hardware is apt to be found. Especially if it develops Internet capability. I'd be willing to bet that New Deal shares that opinion. The newsletter/home publishing market can't be very big or very lucrative. But a complete home computing/small business suite that includes a good web browser will attract some attention. It may be too late, which is Helmar's understandable frustration. I think the parade is rapidly passing. For myself, I like Geoworks because it will run just fine on the low end equipment that I can afford to buy for myself and my kids. But I don't see how New Deal is going to make any money unless it improves the product rather rapidly. If you have an opinion about what sort of material should be cross posted from comp.os.geos I'd be happy to hear it. Sam --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.2k * Origin: Express Mail Systems : Marysville Michigan (1:11/470) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 220 GEOWORKS Ref: DDK00009 Date: 09/15/96 From: ANNE PAGE Time: 01:36am \/To: SAM EWALT (Read 1 times) Subj: Geoworks Echo Rules Hi, Sam. SE>>I read comp.os.geos everyday with a certain amounnt of relish. That's where we differ. I'm reading it again but not with relish. Mostly I started again because I wanted to see whatever was being posted about Dunnagan's dumping of the font CD the way he did. SE>>I think Helmar has a point about Geoworks on the deskstop even SE>>if he overstates his posistion in a strident and "negative" SE>>manner. I'm not disputing the fact that he has a point about the lack of support of the desktop in the past. The company was very clear about its intention to not further develop it, but I think it was also made very clear that it would try to turn it over to a republisher for such an effort, and it did do that. The fact that the republisher did little or nothing to support or properly market the product and made a bad impression on the desktop users who did contact it or try to order from it cannot be blamed on Geoworks. What's got me upset is the fact that Helmar is belaboring his points ad nauseum at a time when a new republisher is almost in place who hopefully will take care of us desktop users and he's not letting up on his attacks and bad-mouthing. As I said in my note to GWREP Steve, there is no need to keep beating a dead horse, and Helmar's horse has been dead a long time and needs to be buried. SE>>If you want to be the cross poster I will yield back to SE>>you. No, I don't. I just hadn't seen anything over here from you in a while or anything from you in comp.os.geos since I've been back there and thought you were having BBS problems and offered to help if you were absent. Also, for a long time, I didn't realize you were doing it. I thought young Edward was the one. Then, when I saw his recent posts, I realized that you were it but it didn't look to me as if the change had gone through the proper channels. When Rick Lembree was moderator and agreed that I could cross-post at a time when no one else here had access to comp.os.geos, he and I established some criteria for cross-posts by PVT netmail and then announced the criteria here in several back and forth postings to each other and all. So, when I said I needed to stop and Edward volunteered, I referred him to Rick to be advised of the criteria for the cross-post material that would be acceptable. Now that Chris is moderator, I assume he knows from Rick what the criteria was or has established his own guidelines for what he considers acceptable cross-post material, and I was trying to make sure that whoever is cross-poster is aware of what can be brought in here and what can't. SE>>on a regular basis. I'm happy to do it since I read SE>>comp.os.geos anyway. So long as everything is a-ok with Chris, you can keep on so far as I am concerned. OTOH, if you know you are going to be gone for a while, or if you have Fido problems unexpectedly, you can e-mail me at anne.page@psl-online.com and ask me to take over temporarily and then take it back as soon as you are able. That's assuming that it is okay with Chris for me to do so. The same is true of the questions I ask you later on in this message about uploading some stuff I saved from comp.os.geos if you didn't see it. If you want me to post it based on what you see here, then I would like to know it's okay with Chris before I do so. (I HOPE YOU'RE READING THIS NOTE, CHRIS SALLEK!) SE>>Let me know what you think. I just did. SE>>I'm just trying to be of service as I realize you are too. Right. And the fact remains that I am still not a tekkie and a lot of what I cross-posted was stuff I didn't understand and couldn't explain when people asked about it. You are much more knowledgeable than I am about the technical aspects of the program and the features and bug fixes under discussion. As for not seeing a bunch of material to cross-post, I saved a couple of things I wondered if you were going to bring in. So far I haven't seen any of them here, and I think they all meet the criteria that Rick and I established long ago for cross-posts from comp.os.geos to this echo. I'm not putting them here because I am not the designated cross-poster, but they started out: "Much to my (delighted) surprise, I have successfully coaxed my hp100LX palmtop pc into running Ensemble 2.01 ..." Did you see that one? If not, shall I upload it here (if it's okay with Chris) or e-mail it you to upload if you feel it should be seen here? If the latter, I need your e-mail address. ATSL, did you see this one from GWREP Ray in answer to Helmar that explains a lot of the history of the company's decision to not further develop the desktop? "Literally years ago, Geoworks publicly stated that if the PDA(CCD) market didn't succeed, they (Geoworks) wouldn't either. They radically refocused their operation towards making that happen so that they could survive. ..." Same question. If you didn't see it, shall I post it or e-mail it to you for consideration as a cross-post? If you did see these two items and decided they were not cross-post material, that's fine with me. I may disagree with that decision, but I'll honor it since you are the cross-poster, and I'm perfectly happy for you to be it. I just saw the one you cross-posted by GWREP Mark about New Deal and a possible release of 3.0 in the second quarter of 1997. I was going to ask you about it but you beat me to it. Anne Page * SLMR 2.1a * On a clear desk you can never find anything. --- QScan/PCB v1.16b / 01-0075 * Origin: PSL Online Houston, TX 713-442-6704 @psl-online.com (1:106/6256) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 220 GEOWORKS Ref: DDL00000 Date: 09/16/96 From: JAY FULLER Time: 10:28am \/To: TERRI FERRIER (Read 1 times) Subj: GEOS CD TF>Just wanted to let everyone know that the response to the CD offer TF>has been really good. I've received messages on the echo, phone TF>calls, netmail and e-mail relayed to me about ordering a disk. I TF>think the response has been good enough that I will again be making TF>more next month and will continue to do so as long as there is a TF>demand. TF>The deadline is not too far away so I wanted to remind everyone. The TF>disks will be made on Sept. 15, so if you want one, get your order to TF>me. If you are going to be cutting it close to the deadline, call me TF>and tell me your check is in the mail. You'll get it. US residents TF>send $50 and TF> TF>I've been adding a few more things to the disk and there's still TF>time to add more if I get anything else. TF> TF>The disk is now at 570 megs. This includes the directorys where I TF>have the fonts and clipart uncompressed. The directories with all TF>the zipped files breaks down to 214 meg. That includes 86meg of TF>CGM/PCX clipart, 90meg of Geos Fonts and around 40 meg of actual TF>Geos files, apps, etc. There are no files for version 1.2, only 2.0. TF>And I have only included the newest version I could find of any TF>files or applications. TF> TF>For those of you that plan to put the CD on a BBS, as I have added TF>files, I DID remember to update the files.bbs' and make sure the new TF>additions have file_id.diz', it looks like i missed the first making......when is the next making you'll be doing? I'd like to get in on it....i'd have been in on it this time, but i've had a very rough month finantually...... --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Deep Space Nine BBS - [205] 734-0818/734-0763-Cullman AL (1:3607/22)