--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 219 WINDOWS/WRKGRPS Ref: CAL00002Date: 06/16/95 From: FRED SEXTON Time: 12:52pm \/To: TIM CUMMINGS (Read 16 times) Subj: Memory Some considerations. autoexec.bat... TC>C:\WINDOWS\MSCDEX.EXE /S /D:MSCD001 /V /M:15 Load this high TC>SET SOUND=C:\SB16 TC>SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 TC>SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E TC>C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S TC>C:\SB16\SB16SET /P /Q TC>LH /L:0 C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE /x You have to consider whether the performance hit of /x is worth it. For most mortals it is not. Also, should specify the dos/win cache sizes - SMARTDRV.EXE 2048 512 for example TC>@ECHO OFF TC>PROMPT $p$g TC>PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS;c:\;C:\VGAUTIL TC>PATH=C:\VGAUTIL;%PATH%; Delete - it's in the path statement, previous line TC>rem ******************* Mouse Setup ************************ TC>PATH = C:\MOUSE;%PATH%;C:\VGAUTIL Just add C:\MOUSE to the path statement above TC>MOUSE CENHANCE Other than this (?), didn't see a command to load the mouse. Should try to load the mouse high TC>rem ******************************************************** TC> TC>SET TEMP=C:\DOS Directing temp files to the DOS dir is not good practice. Should make a dir named TEMP and change this to SET TEMP=C:\TEMP (or wherever) TC>path C:\VGAUTIL;%PATH%; This line shows up again... delete config.sys... TC>DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS TC>DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM x=d800-dbff X=DB00-DBFF How did you determine that these areas needed to be excluded? Should consider I=B000-B7FF TC>BUFFERS=20,0 Can change to BUFFERS=40 with no memory hit TC>FILES=250 Interesting. Not a typical entry, so assume you have a specific reason for that. If, per chance, not, drop it down to at most 100 TC>DOS=UMB TC>LASTDRIVE=E TC>FCBS=16,8 Unless using a program that specifically requires this, should be deleted. TC>DEVICEHIGH /L:1,26928 =C:\SB16\DRV\CTSB16.SYS /UNIT=0 /BLASTER=A:220 TC>I:5 D:1 H:5 TC>DEVICEHIGH /L:2,10416 =C:\SB16\DRV\CTMMSYS.SYS TC>DEVICE=C:\VGAUTIL\RAMBIOS.SYS TC>DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE Delete, unless using a DOS program in DOS specifically requiring it. TC>DEVICEHIGH /L:1,9072 =C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS Delete, since not using fancy prompts TC>DOS=HIGH TC>REM ** FILES=30 TC>SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM /p /e:512 TC>STACKS=9,256 TC> TC>REM ** FILES=25 TC>DEVICE = C:\VGAUTIL\VANSI.SYS Same as with ansi.sys, above TC>DEVICEHIGH /L:1,13872 =C:\SB16\DRV\SBCD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:220 TC>DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER Delete - SMARTDRV loaded in autoexec.bat TC>DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS Load this high Have fun... Regards, Fred CMPQwk 1.42-R2 1452 ...Anything adjustable sooner or later needs adjusting. --- Renegade & OS/2 * Origin: The Jungle - (910)488-1954 - PRN/SE - VFC (1:3634/38) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 219 WINDOWS/WRKGRPS Ref: CAL00003Date: 06/15/95 From: JERRY SCHWARTZ Time: 09:29pm \/To: KARI SUOMELA (Read 16 times) Subj: Multiple NICs On Jun 12 21:23 95, Kari Suomela of 1:250/120 wrote: KS>> the other one 10baseT's. Is it possible to combine these into one, by KS>> installing a second card into one machine and use this one as a "hub" to KS> JS>> Yes, but only if you run software that makes the PC act like a router. JS>> You'd be better off buying a cheap router. KS> I've been recommended to get a "hub", and they seem to serve the purpose. Yup, so long as you don't care about segregating traffic. Jerry Schwartz --- Msgedsq 3.05wb.06 * Origin: Write by Night, Period (1:142/928.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 219 WINDOWS/WRKGRPS Ref: CAL00004Date: 06/15/95 From: JERRY SCHWARTZ Time: 09:31pm \/To: RICK VISCUSI (Read 16 times) Subj: 32 Bit disk access On Jun 13 01:49 95, Rick Viscusi of 1:267/136 wrote: GP>> me, I couldn't get 32bda to work. Any help would be appreciated. RV> I'm still in this position and someone just told me something I'd RV> like to check out with the people here. I was told 32bda only RV> works if you have an EIDE controller card, I have an IDE card. Is RV> this correct? Thanks, Rick No. Sometimes the controller has a driver which interferes with 32-bit disk access, but not usually. Jerry Schwartz --- Msgedsq 3.05wb.06 * Origin: Write by Night, Period (1:142/928.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 219 WINDOWS/WRKGRPS Ref: CAM00000Date: 06/05/95 From: CURT WILSON Time: 12:59am \/To: PAUL JACOBS (Read 17 times) Subj: Vurtual Sound Driver? PJ>Does AnyOne Know Where i can Get A Sound Driver to play Descent PJ>out of windows? Right Now I can Play The Game But With Out Sound PJ>Sucks Man.. PJ>Who can Help Me Out Here? #1 You're message is a little confusing. If you can play the game in DOS with sound then your sound card should be able to work in windows also. Didn't it come with drivers? What kind of sound card is it? #2 Do not play descent from windows. It will slow things down a little and maybe make the joystick controls jerky. At least it did on mine. Do you have the commercial version? Have you played over the modem. It is awesome over the modem, 2 players cooperative mode against robots. Great fun but you need a good joystick like thrustmaster or CH Flightstick PRO. This makes all the difference in the world. ...Curt Wilson ...curt.wilson@tcf.com --- CMPQwk #1.42-R2 UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: (1:212/3006) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 219 WINDOWS/WRKGRPS Ref: CAM00001Date: 06/06/95 From: CURT WILSON Time: 06:40pm \/To: TOM BEATTY (Read 16 times) Subj: Re: CD-ROM drive problem TB>Trash Windoze. It is nothing but problems. Oh...that's real good advice...and while the rest of us continue to progress you'll be tinkering with your chinsey old DOS programs because nobody writes them any more. TB>At least with DOS you TB>could figure out what was going on. Yeah because you can only do ONE THING AT A TIME! Very unproductive. Who likes those cheesey DOS graphics anyway? At least windows offered a nice GUI - something no one else had then. As I drive my Lexus to work, I'll pass guys like you on the road driving your '72 pickup because, hey, you can fix it when it breaks! :) TB>With Windoze strange things TB>happen for no apparent reason and you end up with nothing working TB>right. We'll you to got a point there, although it is not always windows fault. Thousands of software drivers, software, hardware and lack of consistant standards causes most of the problems. But at least windows is taking steps in the right direction albeit slow. TB>Someone please save us from Microsoft. Just when DOS TB>starting improving along with the applications for it along comes TB>Bill Gates with a better idea? I think so, even tho it is not without it's share of problems. :( ...Curt Wilson ...curt.wilson@tcf.com --- CMPQwk #1.42-R2 UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: (1:212/3006) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 219 WINDOWS/WRKGRPS Ref: CAM00002Date: 06/06/95 From: CURT WILSON Time: 06:40pm \/To: RANDALL AINSWORTH (Read 16 times) Subj: NETROOM 3 RA>JP>I just tried out Netroom 3 this evening. I have been using RA>JP>memmaker f quite a while. The best I could get Netroom to do was RA>JP>give me just slightly less conventional memory than I had with RA>JP>memmaker. I have a multimedia pc with a scanner going so I have a RA>JP>lot of drivers that nee to go somewhere. My upper memory was RA>JP>already full before I tried netroom. I guess there are only so RA>JP>many places to put these things. Thats true but memmaker rates pretty low on making those places available. There are probably some tricks you have not tried. The newest version of Netroom won editor's choice a few months back (PC Mag) so I'm sure it is a quality product. I use QEMM and am very satisfied. If you run windows most of the time, disable Expanded memory. This will give you an additional 64K of upper memory. Also include the address space normally used for monochrome monitors B000-B7FF. This has never caused problems with any computers I've done it on. But if it does just simply remove the include statement. Can't hurt to try. ...Curt Wilson ...curt.wilson@tcf.com --- CMPQwk #1.42-R2 UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: (1:212/3006) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 219 WINDOWS/WRKGRPS Ref: CAM00003Date: 06/13/95 From: BOB MILLER Time: 03:07pm \/To: JASON HEFLEY (Read 16 times) Subj: 32 Bit disk access JH>SB> I just installed a new 540M Seagate hard drive on my system JH>SB>as a slave. I had a 520M Seagate and left it in the system as the JH>SB>master. When I went to run Windows which was setup for 32 bit JH>SB>access Windows crashed. After trying many things, turning off the JH>SB>32 bit access got windows running again. Anyone got any ideas???? JH>I'd suspect it would have something to do with one of your drives JH>being an enhanced drive (EIDE) and the other one not, I was told JH>that all IDE drives 540 and above were EIDE and everything smaller JH>was regular IDE. Could be causing windows to freak when it see's JH>both. I'd switch the master and slave around and see if that helps. Won't do him any good at all. His drive has more than 1023 cylinders in CMOS. He needs a special driver in order to get 32bda. Bob * CMPQwk version 1.42-R2 reg #9999 * --- * I saw a light at the end of the tunnel - it was a train. * --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0042 * Origin: The Mass Running Board *-617-828-0868-* 1:101/330 (1:101/330) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 219 WINDOWS/WRKGRPS Ref: CAM00004Date: 06/15/95 From: BOB MILLER Time: 07:22am \/To: RICK VISCUSI (Read 16 times) Subj: Re: 32 Bit disk access RV> GP> me, I couldn't get 32bda to work. Any help would be RV>appreciated. I'm still in this position and someone just told RV> me something I'd like to check out with the people here. I was RV> told 32bda only works if you have an EIDE controller card, I RV> have an IDE card. Is this correct? Thanks, Rick Absolutely not. If the drive conforms to the WD1003 specification (and 99% of all IDE hard drives under 504MB do) then 32bda will work with a standard IDE controller. Bob * CMPQwk version 1.42-R2 reg #9999 * --- * If I buy the steel wool, can you knit me a Porsche? * --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0042 * Origin: The Mass Running Board *-617-828-0868-* 1:101/330 (1:101/330) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 219 WINDOWS/WRKGRPS Ref: CAM00005Date: 06/16/95 From: BOB MILLER Time: 08:17am \/To: TIM CUMMINGS (Read 16 times) Subj: Memory TC>scanner. Till I get more ram, i am stuck so i was hoping you can TC>give me some details Here are my autoexec.bat and config.sys files. TC> TC>C:\WINDOWS\MSCDEX.EXE /S /D:MSCD001 /V /M:15 Why aren't you loading this high? TC>LH /L:0 C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE /x Looks like you ran an incomplete Memmaker session. If you are desperate for memory, you could drop this entirely since you have 32bfa running. If not that needy, change the line to: C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE 2048,512 It loads high by itself and the x parameter is slowing it down dramatically. TC>PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS;c:\;C:\VGAUTIL TC>PATH=C:\VGAUTIL;%PATH%; TC>PATH = C:\MOUSE;%PATH%;C:\VGAUTIL TC>SET TEMP=C:\DOS TC>path C:\VGAUTIL;%PATH%; Clean up all those path lines. One simple PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS:C:\VGAUTIL will be fine. And set up a TEMP subdirectory to point the SET TEMP line to. You certainly don't want DOS being cluttered with temp files. TC>E=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS TC>DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM x=d800-dbff X=DB00-DBFF Why the RAM switch? That is eating 64K of upper memory and keeping stuff from being loaded there. Most of us do best with NOEMS. TC>FILES=250 That is HUGE!! Do you really need 250 files? TC>FCBS=16,8 FCBS=2 is fine TC>DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE TC>DEVICEHIGH /L:1,9072 =C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS Kill both lines. SETVER is useless for almost everyone and you are not using fancy prompts so why waste memory with ANSI.SYS? TC>DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER You have a SCSI hard drive? If not, kill this line yesterday. Bob * CMPQwk version 1.42-R2 reg #9999 * --- * Just when you think it's hopelessly broken, it works. * --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0042 * Origin: The Mass Running Board *-617-828-0868-* 1:101/330 (1:101/330) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 219 WINDOWS/WRKGRPS Ref: CAM00006Date: 06/16/95 From: ANDY JONES Time: 04:11pm \/To: TIM CUMMINGS (Read 16 times) Subj: Memory On 6-13-95 TIM CUMMINGS wrote to ALL... TC> Hello, I have heard the people in this conference can really help you TC> out so here goes. Well I am a Programmer for Windows, Do lots of TC> scanning, and other stuff. Anyway i am running extremely low on memory TC> when i am doing the little thing. I have 486dx2 66mhz. 8 meg ram, TC> a Vga Wonder XL-24 video card, a mustek mgs-6000cx 1200 dpi scanner. TC> Till I get more ram, i am stuck so i was hoping you can give me some TC> details Here are my autoexec.bat and config.sys files. If your running DOS 6 or higher I would recommend that you use the multi-config feature. That way you could set up a session for plain windows, windows with your scanner, windows with your CD drive and windows with both or any other stuff you have. I'm am, of course, assuming that you don't use ALL of your stuff EVERY time you use windows. andy ... OFFLINE 1.40 * Old MacDonald had a computer with EIA I/O. --- SLMAIL v4.5 (#0605) * Origin: The Secret Garden BBS 518-537-6331 *V34* (1:267/175)