---------------------------------------------------- *** QwkNews (tm) v2.1 * [TN71] alt.lang.powerbasic <-> POWER_BAS Gateway --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Toast House Remote (1:100/560.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 214 POWER BASIC Ref: FA100031 Date: 05/18/98 From: LANCE EDMONDS Time: 12:43pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Pb/dll From: lanceedmonds@SPAMLESS.xtra.co.nz (Lance Edmonds) Subject: Re: Pb/dll "Ralph Tuenker" wrote: >I agree with you. I bought the 16 and 32 bit version and the documentation >and samples are bad either. You have to be an experience C programmer when >you like to use PB/DLL effectively. > >Ralph > So, are you saying that when you buy a *compiler*, it should teach you the language too? Does the manual for your car teach you how to drive? Get real. ============================== Lance Edmonds, Email contacts: 100354.1645@compuserve.com Lance_Edmonds@compuserve.com lanceedmonds@xtra.co.nz ============================== Please remove "SPAMLESS." when replying by email. ============================== *** QwkNews (tm) v2.1 * [TN71] alt.lang.powerbasic <-> POWER_BAS Gateway --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Toast House Remote (1:100/560.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 214 POWER BASIC Ref: FA100032 Date: 05/18/98 From: DON SCHULLIAN Time: 03:47pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: 'CF' & Interrupt List From: d83@ath.forthnet.gr (Don Schullian) Subject: Re: 'CF' & Interrupt List On Sun, 17 May 1998 23:00:48 GMT, pb@excelsior.xs4all.nl.REMOVE-THIS (Marc an den Dikkenberg) wrote: > >I'm using Ralf Brown's interrupt list to do some low-level thing with >PowerBasic... So far,e verything works the way it should. > >I'm wondering about one thing, though: in a lot of entries, a 'CF' is >mentioned, mostly for detecting whether or not the operation was succesful. >'CF set on error' / 'CF clear if succesful' > >Are they talking about CX, part of CX, or something totally different? >As far as I'm aware, there is no 'CF' register... Or is there? Nope, CF is the carry flag. It is BIT 0 of REG(0) so to test if CF is set IF ( REG(0) AND 1 ) = 1 THEN ..... ____ _ ____ ____ _____ | _ \ / \ / ___) __ | ___)(_ _) | |_) / _ \ \____\/ \| _) | | |____//_/ \_\(____/\__/|_| |_| Reply to: d83@ath.forthnet.gr www.basicguru.com/schullian *** QwkNews (tm) v2.1 * [TN71] alt.lang.powerbasic <-> POWER_BAS Gateway --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Toast House Remote (1:100/560.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 214 POWER BASIC Ref: FA100033 Date: 05/18/98 From: DAVE NAVARRO Time: 09:23am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: 3D game engine for PB From: dave@powerbasic.com (Dave Navarro) Subject: Re: 3D game engine for PB? In article <355E0E09.8DC36CB2@BTInternet.com>, R.Zwitserloot@BTInternet.com says... > Surely, SteveBasic! PB inline assembler syntax is indeed 'intel' type, > like MASM, with the minor syntactical difference of Using &h prefix > instead of the h suffix for hexadecimal, which is actually a lot easier > (don't have to worry about using a prefix zero!). I'm writing about a > bug, not syntax implementation. (That is, PB's internal linker has > problems with some standard OBJ files). This standard has been defined > by Microsoft, btw. Simple concern for one of my favorite dos tools! I'd > hate to see a bug in it, though under most circumstances you won't > notice it's there. You seem to continuously miss the point, so let me try to explain it one more time as "simply" as I can. As time goes on specifications change and get better. NASM conforms to *OLD* specifications which are outdated and have since been replaced. PowerBASIC supports the "latest" standards which are also supported by MASM and TASM which are "the most popular Intel assembler products". Given that PowerBASIC supports the "modern standard" and NASM supports "an ld outdated standard" do you really think that PowerBASIC should change or that NASM should change? Personally, I'm tired of this whole conversation. It simply comes down to this. PowerBASIC works with today's standard and until NASM came along supporting an old standard, PowerBASIC worked with every Intel assembler product (MASM, TASM, OPTASM, IASM, etc.). The fault for this incompatibility is **100 percent** with NASM. Period. If you have a problem with it, take t up with the author/publisher of NASM. Your complaints about PowerBASIC on this issue are totally without merit and border-line slanderous. You may want to consider that before you continue this thread. --Dave *** QwkNews (tm) v2.1 * [TN71] alt.lang.powerbasic <-> POWER_BAS Gateway --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Toast House Remote (1:100/560.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 214 POWER BASIC Ref: FA100034 Date: 05/18/98 From: MARC VAN DEN DIKKENBERG Time: 04:44pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: 'CF' & Interrupt List From: pb@excelsior.xs4all.nl.REMOVE-THIS (Marc van den Dikkenberg) Subject: Re: 'CF' & Interrupt List On Mon, 18 May 1998 15:47:28 GMT, d83@ath.forthnet.gr (Don Schullian) >>Are they talking about CX, part of CX, or something totally different? >>As far as I'm aware, there is no 'CF' register... Or is there? >Nope, CF is the carry flag. It is BIT 0 of REG(0) so to test if CF is set > >IF ( REG(0) AND 1 ) = 1 THEN ..... Okay! Thanks for the fast responses, everyone! These comments helped a lot. -- Marc van den Dikkenberg ----------------------- The PowerBasic Archives http://www.xs4all.nl/~excel/pb.html *** QwkNews (tm) v2.1 * [TN71] alt.lang.powerbasic <-> POWER_BAS Gateway --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Toast House Remote (1:100/560.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 214 POWER BASIC Ref: FA100035 Date: 05/18/98 From: TRAVS Time: 06:38pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Programming For Maths From: "travs" Subject: Programming For Maths Hi, I'm a mathematician (of sorts) and want to get into programming for my subject. Is this a good language to use. I want to do numerical calculations (no algebra necessarily) and be able to draw fractals with colour. Please respond with any pointers in the right direction. And how to get started. e-mail: travs@travs.demon.co.uk *** QwkNews (tm) v2.1 * [TN71] alt.lang.powerbasic <-> POWER_BAS Gateway --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Toast House Remote (1:100/560.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 214 POWER BASIC Ref: FA100036 Date: 05/18/98 From: RICHARD STAMP Time: 07:25pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Programming For Maths From: rgs20@cam.ac.uk (Richard Stamp) Subject: Re: Programming For Maths In article <895513247.1922.0.nnrp-05.c1ed8c2f@news.demon.co.uk>, travs wrote: >Hi, I'm a mathematician (of sorts) and want to get into programming for my >subject. Is this a good language to use. I want to do numerical calculations >(no algebra necessarily) and be able to draw fractals with colour. Please >respond with any pointers in the right direction. And how to get started. Oh my goodness, (s)he's crossposted to 13 groups [though only 12 of them actually exist]. Hey everyone, shall we try *not* to turn this into the flamewar of the century? General pointers: you need to look at (a) the basic numerical capabilities of the language (for example, how well the behaviour of the floating-point operations is defined) (b) the tools available for each language. The conventional choice would be Fortran. Not that I've ever used that myself. :-) Oh, and please try not to crosspost so widely: it inevitably leads to annoyance when people start discussing the intricacies of Java in comp.lang.basic. Even crossposting to just 3 or 4 language groups is a dangerous practice. Cheers, Richard -- Richard Stamp Churchill College, Cambridge *** QwkNews (tm) v2.1 * [TN71] alt.lang.powerbasic <-> POWER_BAS Gateway --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Toast House Remote (1:100/560.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 214 POWER BASIC Ref: FA100037 Date: 05/18/98 From: MARC VAN DEN DIKKENBERG Time: 10:16pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: POWERBASIC FILES AVAI From: pb@excelsior.xs4all.nl.REMOVE-THIS (Marc van den Dikkenberg) Subject: Re: POWERBASIC FILES AVAILABLE FOR FTP On Mon, 18 May 1998 01:07:01 -0400, Krogg wrote: >Hey,this would be cool if there were some file descriptions. >Its a small private server with little trafic.Seems fairly fast >from my try.BUT,the dir's are not descriptive and there are no >file descriptions.I cant tell if there is anything there i want >or not. I've downloaded them, and there seems to be several .BI, .PBU and .PBL files missing... A lot of things don't work because of this. But besides that, there are some pretty useful things in there... -- Marc van den Dikkenberg ----------------------- The PowerBasic Archives http://www.xs4all.nl/~excel/pb.html *** QwkNews (tm) v2.1 * [TN71] alt.lang.powerbasic <-> POWER_BAS Gateway --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Toast House Remote (1:100/560.2)