--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 212 INDIAN AFFAIRS Ref: EG300000Date: 12/03/97 From: CHARLES MURRAY Time: 01:14pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: who was the 1st ? Someone may find this interesting .... Charles EVIDENCE SUGGESTS WHITES SETTLED AMERICAS FIRST The remains of probably the oldest North American ever found have been recovered in Washington State. The 9,300-year-old skeleton is 90 percent complete and belongs to a Caucasoid male. By Louis Beam Originally published in the SPOTLIGHT, 10/13/1997) One of the most complete prehistoric skeletons ever unearthed in the Americas was discovered near Kennewick, Washington in July of 1996. It was dubbed "Kennewick Man." Now it is the subject of a court battle between anthropologists who desire to learn all they can about it, and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which wants to cover it up, both literally and figuratively. The Corps of Engineers wishes to turn this remarkable find over to American Indian tribes who want it reburied without further study based on the claim the skeleton is an "Indian" and therefore should not be desecrated by being studied. The discovery of a 9,000-year-old Caucasoid in the United States has led to a breaking down of "an iron curtain of silence" which had existed in the news media and among some archaeologists and anthropologists. It turns out at least six other Caucasoid skeletons, older than any Mongoloid Indian remains known in North America, have been found. These include the nearly 1 0,000-year old mummy of a Caucasoid male found in Spirit Cave, Nevada, and the skeletal remains of a nine-year-old Caucasoid female child found in Nevada of equal antiquity. From their graves, men, women and children are speaking to us, and their tale is that of an ancient culture, stretching at the least from Arizona to Washington state. Their story, long unknown, now partially uncovered, rushes to greet us from the misty depths of the past-a sensational story of life and death in America BC. Interestingly enough the Kennewick Man had imbedded in his pelvic girdle a two- inch Clovis spear-point of gray volcanic rock evidently thrown by an enemy with probable intent to kill. Kennewick Man survived the attack but the spear-point remained imbedded in his hip. There is little proof there was a single Indian of Siberian extraction the entire Northwest when Kennewick Man lived, hunted and fought there. The present Indians in that region are believed to have been there less than 1,000 years, which makes them the invaders. Kennewick Man and his people are the "native Americans" of the Northwest, for whatever that is worth. In fact, such terms as "first," "original" and "native" really have no scientific or historical context in this time period, as so little is known (and if the federal government has its way little will be known) of the era. But such terms are convenient and useful for present-day social engineers to provide preferential treatment to one class at the expense of another. As one lawyer involved in the court case stated, "A lot of their [Indian] pride and claims might not be true, and that might impact them in financially adverse ways." This may explain in part the veil of secrecy that has surrounded the other ancient Caucasoid people found, as well as attempts to prevent further studies, among the most important of which, for proper classification of remains, would be DNA testing. In southern Idaho the skeletal remains of a 10,600-year-old woman, found in a gravel quarry near the town of Buhl, were reburied in December, 1991. The Shoshone-Bannocks-believed by many scientists to have moved into the area less than 1,000 years ago-claimed the remains were those of a dead ancestor. Tribal officials exercising authority newly granted them by the federal government refused permission for archeologists to perform DNA tests and chemical analyses that would provide clues as to the racial origin of the skeleton, as well as other valuable information. WHERE DID THEY COME FROM? Most Americans, taught the Bering Strait theory as an explanation for the peopling of America, are unaware it is no longer seen as the sole explanation for the presence of man on these continents. Archeological finds in South America, on the Eastern Seaboard of the United States and elsewhere show conclusively that there were several distinct and separate migrations of different racial groups to the Americas. Recent studies point to the hypothesis of a "North Atlantic Crescent" which existed between Europe and North America, with both water and ice serving as a "bridge" between the two continents. It is clear also from genetic DNA sequencing that there was more than one migratory event. Indeed, as one DNA study bluntly stated, "The notion of a homogeneous Amerindian genetic pool does not conform with these and other results." Mummies of Caucasoid nobles buried in temples were found in ancient cities of South America. As ruins continue to yield their secrets it now appears many of the ancient pre-Columbian civilizations were seafaring peoples with a long tradition of open-sea sailing. Rather than walking 10,000 miles from Mongolia to Chile, it now seems the "first Americans" may have sailed. And where they came from is yet to be firmly resolved. Peru, Chile and Ecuador are all revealing long-forgotten cities of ancient peoples classified as racially Caucasoid, such as redheaded mummies in pre-Inca graves in Peru. This is not the history taught in the public schools. NEW IDEAS Pre-Columbian tombs are shattering the adage that "dead men tell no tales." The exciting tales they relate will force the rewriting of pre-Columbian history. Shattered will be the myth of "Indians" as the first Americans. Also shattered will be the credibility of those who view the advancement of mankind as a series of events and developments independent of outside influence from distant cultures. This is a school of thought that became popular in American universities in the 1960s along with "progressive socialism" and bell-bottom pants. Such thinking mutated in the once hallowed halls of academia into a form of politically correct archaeology that has greatly hindered the interpretation and understanding of American prehistory. Great steps in understanding the origins of the American past are being made, and they are being done so over the academically dead bodies of fearful, politically correct, social historians, who now fmd themselves haunted by the long-dead bodies of stone-age Americans. Some archeologists have built empires based upon theories resembling in magnitude the Mayan citystates just before their collapse. They see for themselves now an uncertain future in their chosen field where their long-held notions are increasingly seen as relics. When the DNA lab returns are in they will be out for job retraining. .--~~,,__ ....,-------`~~ ._.' `-,,, ,_ ;'U' _,-' ,'`-__; '--. (_/'~~ ''''(; ... DOG PATCH USA * CHATTANOOGA TN * 423-867-5971 * 1:362/309 --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: River Canyon Rd. BBS Chattanooga, Tn (1:362/627) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 212 INDIAN AFFAIRS Ref: EG300001Date: 12/03/97 From: BILL TRACY Time: 09:05pm \/To: SEAN M. BROOKS (Read 0 times) Subj: Fidonet future Hi Sean, We can see the demise of FidoNet sooner that you think. Within the neXT 15 years we will be able to take a train to New York from Boston and make it there in just 2O minutes. Trips from beantown to Los Angelis will take just 6O minutes. The question is not if but when! The Indians in CT that run FOXWOODS have contracted the 1st Magnet train that is coming out of M.I.T. development to run from the Green Air Port in Rhode Island to FOXWOODS. Needless to say, they have plenty of money. The new 8OO room second hotel opened up just 2 weeks ago. Do plan t come down with me some time. Perhaps we can bring the Methuen, MA chess club since that are less than 1O paying members of which you and I qualify. See ya Friday night. Bill P.S. I think that the air line industry is in BIG TROUBLE. --- FMail 1.02+ * Origin: Orion BBS "Where the Stars Hangout!" 508-970-0064 (1:324/272) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 212 INDIAN AFFAIRS Ref: EG400000Date: 12/04/97 From: SONDRA BALL Time: 10:05pm \/To: DOUG CARTER (Read 0 times) Subj: Fidonet future DC> I have a mental picture of Sondra, busy writing up the history of th DC> local Indian Particle Accellerator research conducted prior to the i DC> of North America... and how the Euros were lucky to interupt it DC> before they invented the BOMB. Well, definitely, they would have invented the bomb, if the whites hadn't brought small pox over. It was just a matter of time, actually, before one of those folks hanging aroung Central America came up with the idea! Sondra -*- MM 1.0b4 Unregistered MailMaker - Your Windows offline reader! --- Opus-CBCS 1.7x via O_QWKer 1.7 * Origin: the fifth age - milford ct - 203-876-1473 (1:141/355.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 212 INDIAN AFFAIRS Ref: EG400001Date: 12/04/97 From: SONDRA BALL Time: 10:05pm \/To: ROSLYN REID (Read 0 times) Subj: Fidonet future RR> prolly earlier than the 15th century. i've come across their calend RR> but it's usually accompanied by somebody's off-the-wall interpretati Yeah -- there are all those people interpreting everything about the Aztecs and the Mayans. It's downright disgusting at times. I researched Nostroamus once. I took a book from 1910 that interpreted his prophecies; and another from 1980. Then I checked the same quatrains, and found totally different interpretations. It's all in the eye of the beholder, I think. RR> since the aztecs wrote things down, it's easy to find their astronom RR> lore. but what of other NAs? does any oral tradition survive? Lots of oral tradition survives. The problem is: you probably aren't going to find anybody who will tell it to you, even if they happen to know it. Sondra -*- MM 1.0b4 Unregistered MailMaker - Your Windows offline reader! --- Opus-CBCS 1.7x via O_QWKer 1.7 * Origin: the fifth age - milford ct - 203-876-1473 (1:141/355.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 212 INDIAN AFFAIRS Ref: EG400002Date: 12/04/97 From: SONDRA BALL Time: 10:05pm \/To: DALE SHIPP (Read 0 times) Subj: hug-o-war! DS> MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 DS> Title: Hugs DS> Categories: Info, Poem DS> Yield: 1 servings DS> 1 Poem I love it! Thanks for sharing it! Let's see what I can do with hugs ... Hugs by Sondra Ball Sky, covered with clouds on a cold winter evening, cleared by a big hug. copyright 1997 sondra ball -*- MM 1.0b4 Unregistered MailMaker - Your Windows offline reader! --- Opus-CBCS 1.7x via O_QWKer 1.7 * Origin: the fifth age - milford ct - 203-876-1473 (1:141/355.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 212 INDIAN AFFAIRS Ref: EG400003Date: 12/04/97 From: SONDRA BALL Time: 10:05pm \/To: DALE SHIPP (Read 0 times) Subj: hug-o-war! DS> SEEN-BY: 3615/51 3804/180 DS> MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 DS> Title: Huggs DS> Categories: Ascii art, Info DS> Yield: 1 servings Cute! Grin! You have been sending this out around the world, haven't you? Sondra -*- MM 1.0b4 Unregistered MailMaker - Your Windows offline reader! --- Opus-CBCS 1.7x via O_QWKer 1.7 * Origin: the fifth age - milford ct - 203-876-1473 (1:141/355.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 212 INDIAN AFFAIRS Ref: EGA00000Date: 12/05/97 From: RAY ELLIS Time: 04:36pm \/To: BILL TRACY (Read 0 times) Subj: Fidonet future In a message to Sean M. Brooks <03-Dec-97 21:05:08> Bill Tracy wrote: BT> The Indians in CT that run FOXWOODS have contracted BT> the 1st Magnet BT> train that is coming out of M.I.T. development to run from BT> the Green Air Port BT> in Rhode Island to FOXWOODS. Needless to say, they have BT> plenty of money. The BT> new 8OO room second hotel opened up just 2 weeks ago. The Mashantucket Pequots have yet to get any clearance from local (chiefly North Stonington township) officials to build anything of the sort. There's a lot of blatant racism coming down on their heads hereabouts. --- * Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * V.Everything! * (860) 535-4284 (1:320/119) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 212 INDIAN AFFAIRS Ref: EGA00001Date: 12/06/97 From: BILL TRACY Time: 12:01am \/To: RAY ELLIS (Read 0 times) Subj: Fidonet future RE> Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * V.Everything! (860) 535-4284 (1:320/119) Hi Ray, It would B nice 2 know from where you are calling. RE> The Mashantucket Pequots have yet to get any clearance from local RE> (chiefly North Stonington township) officials to build anything RE> of the sort. There's a lot of blatant racism coming down on their RE> heads hereabouts. This may-be correct but it is in the cards , so to speak. Bill ... Hard to be humble when you're as great as I am. --- FMail 1.02+ * Origin: Orion BBS "Where the Stars Hangout!" 508-970-0064 (1:324/272) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 212 INDIAN AFFAIRS Ref: EGC00000Date: 12/07/97 From: RAY ELLIS Time: 06:28pm \/To: BILL TRACY (Read 0 times) Subj: Fidonet future BT> It would B nice 2 know from where you are calling. You trying to outdo The Artist formerly known as Prince? I'm in New London, CT. The BBS is in North Stonington. BT> This may-be correct but it is in the cards , so to BT> speak. Unfortunately, the Mashantuckets aren't dealing those cards. They're at the playing table with a HUGE stake, but they ain't dealing. The state wants to, but the Constitution says the Feds are. They got a rough row to hoe. --- * Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * V.Everything! * (860) 535-4284 (1:320/119) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 212 INDIAN AFFAIRS Ref: EGD00000Date: 12/08/97 From: BILL TRACY Time: 08:45am \/To: RAY ELLIS (Read 0 times) Subj: F O X W O O D S In a message to me you mentioned that the Indians aren't benefiting from the righ proceeds that are made 24 hours a day in Foxwoods. I don't understand. RE> You trying to outdo The Artist formerly known as Prince? I'm in New RE> London, CT. The BBS is in North Stonington. ABSOLUTELY NOT